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Mind Loving Owl posted:At least Dante put unbaptized children in the part of Hell without suffering. I wouldn't put it past most freepers to suggest they go to one of the worse circles. I don't have my copy to hand, but I could have sworn that Muhammad was condemned to walk laps around the lake of ice in which Lucifer was partialy frozen, and whenever he passed beneath the fallen angel, Lucifer would brain him or something like that. "Islam as a Christian heresy" was not a particularly uncommon thing when that newer religion first got going in the 7th-early 8th centuries (particularly among the Eastern churches), but I would have thought it had died off by the time Dante was writing.
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VitalSigns posted:Coming up with a new religion is one thing, but not obeying your dictator (whom God divinely selected) and supporting a republic instead, now that's some real bad poo poo. Always support your monarch, usurping the throne is wrong. Even though the monarch you support probably either overthrew the last one or is the close descendent of a usurper. So by standing by the king you're probably betraying the last one. Well we're all going to Hell anyway, might as well be cold instead of hot. And the Caesar thing probably isn't helped by the fetish old Europe seemed to have for him.
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The Ninth Cirlce (Like most of the lower ones) was broken down into smaller subsections. Judas, Brutus, and Cassius were in the absolute lowest parts. Like Literally In One Of Satan's Three Mouths Each lowest.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:The Ninth Cirlce (Like most of the lower ones) was broken down into smaller subsections. Judas, Brutus, and Cassius were in the absolute lowest parts. Like Literally In One Of Satan's Three Mouths Each lowest.
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Medieval self-insert fanfics are the best self-insert fanfics.
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VitalSigns posted:Coming up with a new religion is one thing, but not obeying your dictator (whom God divinely selected) and supporting a republic instead, now that's some real bad poo poo. Yeah lets support the ruling aristocracy instead of the populist leader, eventually it will all trickle down.
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Dirt5o8 posted:Medieval self-insert fanfics are the best self-insert fanfics. In four centuries people will be making video games and basing their conception of Hell on Jimrob's Commie-poo poo Hole.
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VitalSigns posted:Brutus and Cassius were in the 9th Circle for their betrayal of Julius Caesar (alongside Judas for his betrayal of Christ of course). Allow me to retort. http://www.schooltube.com/video/53efe6c2cf1bb89f9e82/
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LowellDND posted:tl:dr War stories, drinking, family drama. Jesus, hang in there dude. My buddy was in Iraq at the same time, 1st ID, and he came back with some pretty severe PTSD that people misunderstand all the loving time. The same people who don't understand the horrors of PTSD are the kind of people who tell a suicidal/depressed person to "get over it" or "stop being such a pussy". It's a product of our society not paying half a gently caress of attention to mental healthcare. Rambling. Glad things are better, dude. You're a stronger person than I could ever be, and I'm sorry you've had to deal with this bullshit.
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LowellDND posted:tl:dr War stories, drinking, family drama. Hang in there, man. It's awesome that you're getting therapy and quit drinking and getting on with your life. And I know it's tough to ignore your dad, but do. Guy did 20 years behind a desk and now he wants to give you poo poo because you came back from Fallujah with trauma? gently caress that guy.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:I don't have my copy to hand, but I could have sworn that Muhammad was condemned to walk laps around the lake of ice in which Lucifer was partialy frozen, and whenever he passed beneath the fallen angel, Lucifer would brain him or something like that. Dante wasn't a fan, i suppose
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Freep has officially blown my mind. Freepers, who never miss an opportunity to about homosex and the gaystapo, unanimously think that the idea that Disney's Frozen is pro-gay is unfounded. 70 posts all in agreement. About there not being any gay overtones in a Hollywood production. It's like everything i knew about Freep is wrong. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3132610/posts
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Finnankainen posted:Freep has officially blown my mind. Freepers, who never miss an opportunity to about homosex and the gaystapo, unanimously think that the idea that Disney's Frozen is pro-gay is unfounded. 70 posts all in agreement. About there not being any gay overtones in a Hollywood production. It's like everything i knew about Freep is wrong. Why the gently caress were they even watching a Disney movie? I'd say they probably didn't see it but then they'd just assume it was gay. ...I suppose perhaps one of their Talk Radio prophets mentioned that they liked it?
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MeLKoR posted:Yeah lets support the ruling aristocracy instead of the populist leader, eventually it will all trickle down. So you want to see Caesar spend mah tax denarii on bread for lazy mooching plebs? Why not give them gubmint circuses while you're at it! Without the republic and the Senate, there's nothing to protect the most oppressed Roman minority of all: Latin-speaking Patrician men!
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Liquid Dinosaur posted:Why the gently caress were they even watching a Disney movie? I'd say they probably didn't see it but then they'd just assume it was gay. Probably did what my grandparents did, took a young grandchild to see it. Except my grandparents aren't horrible, terrible people.
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Finnankainen posted:Freep has officially blown my mind. Freepers, who never miss an opportunity to about homosex and the gaystapo, unanimously think that the idea that Disney's Frozen is pro-gay is unfounded. 70 posts all in agreement. About there not being any gay overtones in a Hollywood production. It's like everything i knew about Freep is wrong. Goddamn, even when they're completely in agreement, they still manage to be completely wrong. That takes talent.
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Liquid Dinosaur posted:Why the gently caress were they even watching a Disney movie? My folks have seen it, they went to the movies with my niece.
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Zeroisanumber posted:My folks have seen it, they went to the movies with my niece. Before or after Disney homofagged the Boy Scouts?
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Captain_Maclaine posted:"Islam as a Christian heresy" was not a particularly uncommon thing when that newer religion first got going in the 7th-early 8th centuries (particularly among the Eastern churches), but I would have thought it had died off by the time Dante was writing. Dante was actually living at a time when the Christian conception of Islam was changing quite a bit, and the old idea of Islam as a Christological heresy - basically repackaged Arianism - was being challenged right around the time he was writing. But the idea of Islam as a heresy of Christianity would long outlast him. It's become passe in the modern era of interfaith dialogue but the view still has some adherents among conservative Catholics and Protestants alike (not sure about the Orthodox churches). I've met some; there are probably some on Freep. In my experience, however, that kind of person is less interested in the history of Islam or a useful definition of "heresy" than in scoring rhetorical points, because if Islam is a "heresy" that means it's not a "real religion." Glass Hand fucked around with this message at 07:07 on Mar 14, 2014 |
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I dunno, seems to me saying Islam is a Christian heresy is less ahistorical than the more popular view among the Christian right that "THEY DONT WORSHIP GOD THEY WORSHIP 'ALLAH'!!"
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This is from Breitbart and I want to believe this is some sort of mockery of republican beliefs but I doubt it http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/03/12/Obama-strategy-five-distractions#comment-1283081044 quote:AFTER WE TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK in 2014 and 2016, here's just the beginning of the agenda for the first 100 days:
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I want to believe as well because loving hell that is an exhaustive laundry list of crazy I wonder if/when Hillary wins he'd/he'll just poo poo his goal posts again as his mind further divorces itself from reality, or just stick a gun in his mouth.
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The Albatross posted:I dunno, seems to me saying Islam is a Christian heresy is less ahistorical than the more popular view among the Christian right that "THEY DONT WORSHIP GOD THEY WORSHIP 'ALLAH'!!" Well, leaving aside the gross misunderstanding of how translation works, what they're probably trying to do is dispute the ecumenical conciliatory rhetoric that "we [followers of Abrahamic religions] all worship the same God." That's not necessarily an "ahistorical" point of view given the long history in the Christian tradition of calling Muslims pagans, godless, or idolaters, denying quite forcefully any shared object of worship between the faiths. quote:11. Make Mark Levin our Attorneys General / Give us our CONSTITUTION back! "Give us our Constitution back, so we can throw it away again!"
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FMguru posted:Check out the first Rambo movie ("First Blood") - the bad guy is a redneck southern sheriff who has no use for hippie loser Vietnam vets If you read the book or looked closely at the wall behind him in the Sheriff's office, you'll see that he was also a decorated Korean War vet.
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A crazy person posted:- Legislate a NEW Wagner Act: mandates that any enclosed shopping mall must play classical and baroque music over the PA system to keep the ferals (radical environmentalists) at bay. I'm gonna have to go with this is a fake. If there's one thing I've learned from freep, it's that good old 'MERICAN firearms will keep out "the ferals", not that sissy European music. BadOptics fucked around with this message at 09:15 on Mar 14, 2014 |
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Glass Hand posted:Well, leaving aside the gross misunderstanding of how translation works, what they're probably trying to do is dispute the ecumenical conciliatory rhetoric that "we [followers of Abrahamic religions] all worship the same God." That's not necessarily an "ahistorical" point of view given the long history in the Christian tradition of calling Muslims pagans, godless, or idolaters, denying quite forcefully any shared object of worship between the faiths. At least they're not quite at the point of calling for summary executions by firing squad. Also, lol they want a talk show host to be loving Attorney General of the United States. At least no matter how wacky liberals get you don't see them calling for the instillation of Rachel Maddow as Surgeon General or some poo poo.
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skaboomizzy posted:Anecdotes are not data, but Michael Weinstein wrote a book about the experiences he and his son had the Air Force Academy called "With God On Our Side: One Man's War Against an Evangelical Coup in America's Military". I read a few excerpts some years ago, including one (I think) about some of the stained glass at the chapel featuring the Hand of God clutching some atomic weapon imagery. Anecdotes are not data, but an atheist friend who was in the AA during the scandal in 2005 verified everything Weinstein talks about. Add to that the Moral Nuclear War class for missile operators, and the actual statistics regarding evangelical chaplain percentages in the service compared to percentage of actual evangelicals in the service and you have a problem. I'm in an austere location on spotty cell coverage or I'd google source all of this, but essentially 65-70% of chaplains are Southern Baptist/hardcore evangelical vs less than 20% of the whole force. Fort Lee Va's commanding general gave all of the basic trainees the day off if they chose to go to a Christian Rock Concert on base where they could be preached to, or converted. Those who didn't go were given additional duties. This was in 2010 I believe... People in all services are being excluded and even punished for not belonging to the right religion, the Air Force is just the worst of them. It's all that holy nuclear armageddon rhetoric that preachers like Ted Haggard have been talking about since Hiroshima. I remember a Chick tract very specifically being about the showdown with The US and the USSR being the prophecized end of days. It ended with one guy parachuting into Russia to convert as many people as possible before it started. It was quite fatalistic. Mind Loving Owl posted:Apparently Dante viewed Islam as a offshot of Christianity. Technically it is. When Mohammed first had his visions, he went to an uncle who was a Christian and was sure the message was from God, and Mohammed was sure his prophecy was for the Christian Church, but he was rebuffed by christian priests, then he took it to Jewish Rabbis and was rebuffed, so he created Islam. The Albatross posted:I dunno, seems to me saying Islam is a Christian heresy is less ahistorical than the more popular view among the Christian right that "THEY DONT WORSHIP GOD THEY WORSHIP 'ALLAH'!!" And Spanish Catholics don't worship god, they worship Dio... My Q-Face fucked around with this message at 09:47 on Mar 14, 2014 |
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I know he won't, but I really hope Obama comes out against the Europe bans old cheese names from US cheeses thing so Freepers have to choose between siding with the Marxist Muslim Kenyan and nanby pamby liberal Europeans with their gay marriage and healthcare.
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quote:People in all services are being excluded and even punished for not belonging to the right religion, the Air Force is just the worst of them. It's all that holy nuclear armageddon rhetoric that preachers like Ted Haggard have been talking about since Hiroshima. Not really getting the Air Force being the most discriminatory towards different religions; it's just the dipshits at the AF Academy were doing their poo poo out in the open and got caught. I'd expect that the same pressure is put on cadets at the other service academies to be more "correct" in their religious affiliations. Around a year or two ago there was an Atheist cadet at West Point who left due to the same atmosphere the AFA had/has. I would love to see data on what career fields these fundamentalist are in. I've been in the enlisted medical side and have yet to see or hear anything like the stuff reported out of the academies, but I wouldn't be surprised if a large cross section of pilots/front line troops had a higher concentration. Add in who came from a regular state college vs AFA/West Point/Annapolis and high school grads.
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BadOptics posted:Not really getting the Air Force being the most discriminatory towards different religions; it's just the dipshits at the AF Academy were doing their poo poo out in the open and got caught. I'd expect that the same pressure is put on cadets at the other service academies to be more "correct" in their religious affiliations. Around a year or two ago there was an Atheist cadet at West Point who left due to the same atmosphere the AFA had/has. British goon here but I remember something about a total war class against Islam that was talked? Presented it as some sort of clash of civilisations? Might be confused.
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About that guy's list of crazy, what's common core? Is that like the federal standard for education or something?
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Stoat posted:I know he won't, but I really hope Obama comes out against the Europe bans old cheese names from US cheeses thing so Freepers have to choose between siding with the Marxist Muslim Kenyan and nanby pamby liberal Europeans with their gay marriage and healthcare. Those gay-loving socialists in Europe need to be taught a lesson over this but Obamas weak blustering isn't nearly enough to do it and besides he's just pretending since he's a Marxist too, we need a real leader to put them in their place. There, I've out-freeped your dilemma.
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Lord Twisted posted:British goon here but I remember something about a total war class against Islam that was talked? Presented it as some sort of clash of civilisations? Might be confused. You're probably thinking of that air force general who thought he saw satan as a 'dark stain' above the skies of Iraq or whatever, right? He often came out against Islam. I can't for the life of me remember what his name was.
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Tias posted:You're probably thinking of that air force general who thought he saw satan as a 'dark stain' above the skies of Iraq or whatever, right? He often came out against Islam. I can't for the life of me remember what his name was. I think he's talking about this class: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/05/total-war-islam/ Keep in mind, the instructor's input/intent for the class aside, it was students (that is, senior officers) who objected to and stopped the material being taught.
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Mind Loving Owl posted:About that guy's list of crazy, what's common core? Is that like the federal standard for education or something? Common Core is a set of standards for language arts and mathematics that was created by agreement of the states' education boards and facilitated by the federal department of education. The standards, which can be found here http://www.corestandards.org include things like quote:Delineate a speaker's argument and specific claims, distinguishing claims that are supported by reasons and evidence from claims that are not. and quote:Interpret and compute quotients of fractions, and solve word problems involving division of fractions by fractions, e.g., by using visual fraction models and equations to represent the problem. Much like Agenda 21, this has been interpreted to mean that Obama is going to brainwash our children into Marxist-Ayerism and turn them into commie homofaggots. Because conservatives are dumb and so goddamn crazy.
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cafel posted:At least no matter how wacky liberals get you don't see them calling for the instillation of Rachel Maddow as Surgeon General or some poo poo. I dunno, Michael Moore advocated Opera Winfrey for the position of POTUS. To whatever miniscule credit I can assign the man, he did point out that that position would earn her a smaller salary than her talk show one.
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The Mash posted:Those gay-loving socialists in Europe need to be taught a lesson over this but Obamas weak blustering isn't nearly enough to do it and besides he's just pretending since he's a Marxist too, we need a real leader to put them in their place. Obama is gay, Europe is gay. Europe gets their trademark in exchange for gay sex wish. Obama hates america and he is gay. Done. Oh and moochelle just wanted all the cheese because she is like the inverse moby dick(not racist) Zedd fucked around with this message at 14:58 on Mar 14, 2014 |
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cafel posted:Also, lol they want a talk show host to be loving Attorney General of the United States. At least no matter how wacky liberals get you don't see them calling for the instillation of Rachel Maddow as Surgeon General or some poo poo. Mark Levin has a JD though.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:This is from Breitbart and I want to believe this is some sort of mockery of republican beliefs but I doubt it Trying to decide when I'd start shooting people if this list were implemented. I imagine right around #16.
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BadOptics posted:I'm gonna have to go with this is a fake. If there's one thing I've learned from freep, it's that good old 'MERICAN firearms will keep out "the ferals", not that sissy European music. That's a LaRouchite meme. They want to protect us from environmentalism, Pokemon, and The Beatles.
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