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Elder Postsman posted:The one I saw was on 94 West, right after 280. That's definitely not Bachmann territory. Jesus, you're not lyin'. That's in walking distance of my college--within walking distance of the OFA headquarters in 2012, even.
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Mo_Steel posted:Oh man that website is a treasure trove of fearmongering. This shows up in the rotating sidebar under this image:: If you know for a fact that none of your readers will read past two third word, you can act like its Obama bragging about taking arr gunz and people will just go along with it. Then they can claim that its right there in the law.
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LeJackal posted:
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Soviet Commubot posted:Putin worship aside I don't even know where to start with this. "Cool, if you love Russia so much why not move there and become Russian like fake-Putin says?"
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Mar 13, 2014 23:33
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Jurgan posted:Ugh, what the hell. "Marge" here was my physics teacher in high school. I knew she was a conservative religious person, but I assumed she understood science. I just so happen to be staying in North Charleston this week near those places she's talking about. It needs to be noted that there are no sidewalks in the area. Want to get to our place? You better drive you pleb 
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Well this just showed up on my feed: Here’s Why You Should Convert Your Music To 432 Hz  It's an article about how 432 Hz being A is more in tune with the Universe and it even goes  at times. It's kind of an amazing read (and it even ends by telling you how you can pitch your own music collection down to get it back in line with the light in the Universe).It was fun living in a super hippie town for several years.
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Fulchrum posted:If you know for a fact that none of your readers will read past two third word, you can act like its Obama bragging about taking arr gunz and people will just go along with it. Then they can claim that its right there in the law. Even better is that is a Soviet pistol (TT-33 Tokarev). I think they were looking for a Colt 1911(the quintessential american pistol) and said close enough.
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Crain posted:Just saw my token conservative post this: I know I'm late on this, but it's bugging me. Why the hell does the Pres. have to sign a bill using so many different pens? What the hell is the logic of making him put down and pick up different pens when executing a single signature? That seems SO WEIRD to me.
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^^^^^^ edit: Time posted:The rationale is fairly simple. The pen used to sign historic legislation itself becomes a historical artifact. The more pens a President uses, the more thank-you gifts he can offer to those who helped create that piece of history. The White House often engraves the pens, which are then given as keepsakes to key proponents or supporters of the newly signed legislation. When Lyndon Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act in 1964, he reportedly used more than 75 pens (video footage can be found here, although camera cutaways make it hard to keep track) and gave one of the first ones to Martin Luther King Jr. Senators Hubert Humphrey and Everett McKinley Dirksen also received pens for their aid in shuttling the bill through Congress. And in 1996, President Clinton gave the four pens he used to sign the Line-Item Veto bill — which allowed Presidents to veto individual sections of legislation rather than the entire thing — to those most likely to appreciate the bill's impact: Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. I can't figure out how to embed the link in the quote, so: http://content.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1974490,00.html Elder Postsman posted:I'm pretty sure, like, none of those are true. So basically this Council for Health Freedom is encouraging people to go without or pay more for health insurance... for freedom? They really are grasping at straws trying to defeat Obamacare at this point. quote:3. Limited Choice - Most coverage is "narrow network" or "ultra-narrow network" policies, limiting access to doctors, hospitals and other health care professionals. From my understanding, 3 is at least partially true. There was immense pressure to get a lot of plans certified for the exchanges in time for the rollout, so considerations like "is the provider network reasonable" sort of fell by the wayside. But! This can be easily fixed, as there is nothing stopping the provider networks from expanding. Like, ACA plans are exactly the same thing as private insurance plans; a doctor who isn't taking those plans today could easily decide to start taking them on Monday. as for 4, the healthy subsidizing the sick is literally how insurance works, and high deductible health plans are increasingly becoming the norm, even in company provided plans. So while HDHPs suck and are bullshit - a 5k deductible and a 10k out of pocket maximum is still unaffordable to many (most?) Americans - it's not like they are unique to exchange plans. The rest of that was bullshit though. Swan Oat fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Mar 14, 2014 |
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brain.centipedes posted:I know I'm late on this, but it's bugging me. Why the hell does the Pres. have to sign a bill using so many different pens? What the hell is the logic of making him put down and pick up different pens when executing a single signature? That seems SO WEIRD to me. Basically it's just for commemorative gifts. The Civil Rights Act signing involved somewhere between 72 and 114 pens since everyone wanted "a piece of history". So for landmark bills it's done for purely gift giving purposes. Also the pens are just mass produced bic pens so it costs nothing. Presidents don't sign every bill this way.
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Elder Postsman posted:I saw this billboard on the way to work today: This 1) doesn't really make any sense and 2) calls attention to the fact that health insurance in general is basically a is a form of gambling in which the house has rigged the game to always win, which is hardly a ringing endorsement of the status quo...but that's probably a little more thought than this billboard's intended audience is going to put into it, I guess.
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Mo_Steel posted:Oh man that website is a treasure trove of fearmongering. This shows up in the rotating sidebar under this image:: Funny that, I tried to look up this wording in the bill: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-111hr3590enr/pdf/BILLS-111hr3590enr.pdf Should I be surprised that I cannot find this wording in the sections noted?
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Taaaaaaarb! posted:Funny that, I tried to look up this wording in the bill:  Pages 766 - 767 turned up for me by searching the PDF for "gun rights".
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CoasterMaster posted:Well this just showed up on my feed: I've seen this before, and it's funny, because they're taking a resonant body with some stuff to visualize its vibration, and basically just figuring out what frequencies the particular body is tuned to. If the plate were a tad smaller, it would indeed "prefer" 440hz, simply because it resonates naturally at higher frequencies. A good pseudoscience.
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Where did they find a font generator from 1998?
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Elder Postsman posted:I'm pretty sure, like, none of those are true. So basically this Council for Health Freedom is encouraging people to go without or pay more for health insurance... for freedom? They really are grasping at straws trying to defeat Obamacare at this point. The Citizens Council for Health Freedom are the same clowns who made up fake "Obamacare" cards for people to burn in protest (aping '70s Vietnam protestors burning their draft cards).
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Selachian posted:The Citizens Council for Health Freedom are the same clowns who made up fake "Obamacare" cards for people to burn in protest (aping '70s Vietnam protestors burning their draft cards). That's disgusting. Way to poo poo on actual outrage by legitimately angry people during a time of actual problems that the government manufactured. Please tell me that those cards are technically forged government documents and that making them was some super crime so the government can wreck this organization.
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Selachian posted:The Citizens Council for Health Freedom are the same clowns who made up fake "Obamacare" cards for people to burn in protest (aping '70s Vietnam protestors burning their draft cards). I really want one of those cards. 
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That's like that idiot doctor who put up a sign saying he doesn't take Obamacare.
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Anorexic Sea Turtle posted:That's disgusting. Way to poo poo on actual outrage by legitimately angry people during a time of actual problems that the government manufactured. No chance of that. There's no such thing as an Obamacare card.
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edit: Nevermind, beaten. Should have refreshed before replying.
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Anorexic Sea Turtle posted:That's disgusting. Way to poo poo on actual outrage by legitimately angry people during a time of actual problems that the government manufactured. The fake Obamacare cards were just scans of '70s draft cards with "Obamacare" written at the top.  So I suppose you could kinda, sorta, in a way call them "forged government documents," but I'm sure any government attempt to shut them down would be laughed out of court (and give them a lot of undeserved free press).
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CoasterMaster posted:Well this just showed up on my feed: Isn't the LaRouche movement really concerned about the concert tuning of A?
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Mo_Steel posted:It's actually outright stating "hey this law can't be used to gather info on gun ownership or use gun ownership to determine rates and it doesn't give any authority to the people in charge of these programs to do so either." And it seems to be held aloft as some sort of boogeyman. My mind reels.
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Interlude posted:Proponents of gun control, even in this very thread, continually show their cards and advocate for total bans when they think no one is looking. Not to mention, in Democratically controlled states, they actually implement such policies. Why would you expect gun owners to be anything but paranoid in that climate? We're not exactly talking about death panels or FEMA camps here. Some proponents do, most don't.
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Is D&D paywalled at the moment? I want to know, so I can post about how all guns should be confiscated and banned.
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Interlude posted:Proponents of gun control, even in this very thread, continually show their cards and advocate for total bans when they think no one is looking. Not to mention, in Democratically controlled states, they actually implement such policies. Why would you expect gun owners to be anything but paranoid in that climate? We're not exactly talking about death panels or FEMA camps here. There are zero out of 50 states with total bans on guns. There is no popular support for such a movement outside of a handful of US cities, even among liberals. And even those cities only support the bans because of an especially high gun crime rate. You're asking people why you shouldn't be paranoid based on a justification that is itself just a paranoid delusion. Xombie fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Mar 14, 2014 |
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Interlude posted:Proponents of gun control, even in this very thread, continually show their cards and advocate for total bans when they think no one is looking. Not to mention, in Democratically controlled states, they actually implement such policies. Why would you expect gun owners to be anything but paranoid in that climate? We're not exactly talking about death panels or FEMA camps here. Yeah, all those states in which guns are totally banned, like
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Interlude posted:Proponents of gun control, even in this very thread, continually show their cards and advocate for total bans when they think no one is looking. Not to mention, in Democratically controlled states, they actually implement such policies. Why would you expect gun owners to be anything but paranoid in that climate? We're not exactly talking about death panels or FEMA camps here. It's pretty paranoid because you're talking about things that aren't actually happening.
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The whole fake "Obamacare" card thing reminded me of this from yesterday. The person I am replying to is a 64 year old woman who, along with her son, was a regular at my old job selling video games (she also had a huge crush on me). Both of them have a host of health problems, have little income, and are very Christian. She regularly shares things about prayer on facebook, along with a smattering of conservative posts, but from the few times I've politely rebutted a few of the untrue postings, I kind of get the idea she's not the typical frothing at the mouth tea-partier, but rather agrees with the knee jerk response of her family members (whom I have gotten into it with in the comments section), and then realizes it's wrong once you point out the rational side of things. She's really sweet, and it kills me to see her buying into this crap that will ultimately harm her. I hope she listens to what I say. I think the fact that she likes me so much helps may help sway her a bit. Duck_King fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Mar 14, 2014 |
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Cat Face Joe posted:Why does the president sign with multiple pens? The pens are handed out as souvenirs for people involved in the bills or just happen to be in the room. I have a Nixon pen. 
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Duck_King posted:is a 64 year old woman who She hates evil government Obamacare but I guarantee you she is just waiting on her seat to cross 65 and get some of that sweet, sweet Medicare.
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CoasterMaster posted:Well this just showed up on my feed: I hope that the person who started this movement was just some smug trumpet player that refused to believe he was out of tune with the rest of the orchestra. And was promptly kicked out.
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I really want to touch the poop on that one because tuning standards have been all over the place for centuries and there must be some fantastic Illuminati explanation for the slowly-rising tone of concert A.
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One thing that worked for me when dealing a conservative friend was to appeal to realpolitik. If you want help with Obamacare, don't ask a Republican friend, he has every political incentive to give up and say that it sucks. If you ask a Democrat, he's got every incentive to make it work to prove to you how awesome Obamacare is. You don't have to like Obamacare but you're going to pay for it one way or another. Might as well make some Democrat friend work his rear end off and get covered.
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Mo_Steel posted:
Excellent! I was trying to find the drat thing but both Firefox and Acrobat were not letting me have any of it. Otherwise, yeah it looks like it's saying that the ACA doesn't infringe 2nd amendment rights like Mo_Steel was saying. Interlude posted:Proponents of gun control, even in this very thread, continually show their cards and advocate for total bans when they think no one is looking. Not to mention, in Democratically controlled states, they actually implement such policies. Why would you expect gun owners to be anything but paranoid in that climate? We're not exactly talking about death panels or FEMA camps here. You're full of poo poo - either give us some hard evidence that might indicate what you're saying is true or a retraction.
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Duck_King posted:The whole fake "Obamacare" card thing reminded me of this from yesterday. Also those numbers probably didnt happen. http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/penalty.asp I imagine people just take this forward and edit the numbers.
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My dad made the same kind of insane claims about health insurance marketplace deductibles being really high for expensive plans. It turns out he was reading the out-of-pocket limits and not the deductibles.
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Taaaaaaarb! posted:You're full of poo poo - either give us some hard evidence that might indicate what you're saying is true or a retraction. Bills are proposed all the time to ban all semi-automatic weapons, one of which was recently passed and then vetoed in CA. A magazine capacity ban in NJ being debated now has the potential to make vast swaths of small-caliber hunting rifles illegal. Bills are constantly introduced to outright or de facto ban entire swaths of weapons via microstamping, requiring gun owners to carry liability insurance, banning people on the no-fly list from owning guns, loosening criteria for being added to prohibited purchaser lists (especially via dubious mental health-related scarlet letters), incrementally banning low-hanging fruit like .50 caliber rifles and .50AE pistols, widening "gun free zones" to the point where gun owners will have to huddle under a bridge like those sex offenders in FL, making the issuance of a pistol permit hinge on a letter from your doctor, requiring psychological examinations before guns can be purchased, banning certain types of ammo, etc. Dianne Feinstein, arguably the most vocal proponent of gun control in the US Senate in recent decades, is on record saying she wanted to ban all guns but couldn't get the votes. Cuomo in NY said before the SAFE act that confiscation was an option. A few other influential politicians have advocated similarly (sources suck but they're just links to videos). But I guess gun owners shouldn't be paranoid because no place in the US (currently) bans ALL guns.
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Interlude posted:DC entirely banned handguns until they were told they couldn't. Chicago banned all handguns as well as all gun sales and transfers until they were told they couldn't. San Francisco tried to ban all handguns in the 80s but was preempted by the state. CA has a roster of "allowed handguns" which has the practical effect of banning any gun whose manufacturer doesn't cough up extortion money to the government; their new microstamping regulation is accelerating this process. Assault weapons bans are commonplace; in NYC, they allowed registration and then confiscated everything that was registered. Sen. John Chaffe of RI, Rep. Bobby Rush of IL, Rep. Major Ownes of NY, Rep. William Clay of MO, Sen. Bill Bradley of NJ, and several others have publicly supported handgun bans. Every third time I come in this thread you're posting off-topic poo poo about guns. Now you're sourcing breitbart and "gunssavelives" which regardless of what they're linking to, no one cares to visit. Please go away hint: the topic is crazy forwarded political emails, not gun apologism emdash fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Mar 14, 2014 |
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