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Your honor the theater was too dark to determine my victims skin color and at the time I believed the wife was wearing one of those Nicki Minaj wigs
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Business Gorillas posted:I don't know anything about the guy but since I haven't seen his picture plastered everywhere I'm assuming he's white, so stand your ground probably isn't going to work anyways. When are these folks going to learn that you can't run around shooting white people willy-nilly? Seriously, people: Confine your reactionary gun play to brown targets, or you run a tiny risk of actually being held responsible for your actions. Nobody wants that, right?
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Mar 13, 2014 23:38
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Counter-point: The shooter was an ex-cop and therefore America 9/11 Not Guilty.
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Mar 14, 2014 11:35
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Centripetal Horse posted:When are these folks going to learn that you can't run around shooting white people willy-nilly? Perhaps when one of them finally gets punished for doing so.
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Some stuff from O'Reilly last night:quote:O'REILLY: Yes that's complete bull -- blindsided him. Simmons knew we were going to talk about the music industry. What did he think I'm going to give him six minutes on his dopey book? I mean come on we don't do that for anybody. Simmons is just too frightened to answer the questions as simple as that. He blindsided me. What do you live on Mars? I mean you know what this show is. Except for you know...yourself or like every big pop culture guest you've ever had on the program. But please, go on Mr. O'Reilly. quote:O'REILLY: And that's why we have the problem because for the past 50 years who has protected kids in the United States? Who? http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/oreilly/2014/03/14/beyonce-hip-hop-and-protecting-kids 50 years? So, 1964. The first year "The Beatles" became popular in the states, also "The Beach Boys" Yeah, Yeah those pesky songs about Love and Tolerance were really a terrible influence on our society. Yeah all being influenced by that drat "Negro" Rock that came from down south! Elvis shaking his hips nearly caused our democracy to crumble, don't you know?! I for one, wish that music/culture had never advanced past the "Lawrence Welk Show"! FuzzySkinner fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Mar 14, 2014 |
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Counter-point: The shooter was an ex-cop and therefore America 9/11 Not Guilty.  edit: I don't even think a real cop could get away with shooting this guy, I mean look at him:  If he was at least lower middle class you can probably just not bother having a trial. Business Gorillas fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Mar 14, 2014 |
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Mar 14, 2014 18:56
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Business Gorillas posted:Checkmate, liberal Some Freeper is going to Photoshop a hoodie on this guy, turn the wife into a bottle of iced tea and the baby into a bag of skittles.
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Mar 14, 2014 19:49
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A new challenger to The Daily Show has arrived, fair and balanced! http://www.telcoproductions.com/Flipside.shtml I haven't had enough to drink yet to bring myself to watch this horror show, but here is a good article about why it, and conservative comedy in general, is bad. http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/03/the-plight-of-conservative-comedy-wheres-the-rights-em-daily-show-em/283937/
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Mar 14, 2014 20:29
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sleepingbuddha posted:
What about South Park? I would not hesitate to call it a conservative comedy show. It is raunchy yes, but its opinions and values all seem fairly center right.
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Mar 14, 2014 20:37
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Business Gorillas posted:Checkmate, liberal White people get openly murdered by cops too, just in far less numbers due to demographics and racism.
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Mar 14, 2014 20:42
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Madmarker posted:What about South Park? I would not hesitate to call it a conservative comedy show. It is raunchy yes, but its opinions and values all seem fairly center right. It also doesn't make scoring political points the centerpiece of its comedy (well ALL the time anyways).
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Mar 14, 2014 20:45
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Madmarker posted:What about South Park? I would not hesitate to call it a conservative comedy show. It is raunchy yes, but its opinions and values all seem fairly center right. Maybe in terms of other countries. By US standards it's pretty left of center other than making fun of smug liberals a lot. Like its global warming episode was way more making fun of Al Gore and didn't really have any actual commentary on global warming.
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Mar 14, 2014 20:50
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Maybe in terms of other countries. By US standards it's pretty left of center other than making fun of smug liberals a lot. Yeah I've never really gotten the vibe of South Park being particularly conservative in its message. Sure, Matt and Trey will attempt to shove in as much libertarian poo poo as possible but it's primarily an equal opportunist show as far as comedy goes and the political message of the episodes, if there ever is one, is usually "the truth is somewhere in the middle".
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Mar 14, 2014 20:55
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Matt and Trey are starting to become two of the few super successful creators that I believe when they say they aren't conservative or liberal. For one I doubt they've had the time between the retardo days of Cannibal and Spirit of Christmas to channel-saving TV show to starring, writing and directing HW movies, to creating the modern day broadway megahit, to working on an actually decent videogame about their show. Not to mention making brilliant music for all of those projects. Seriously, gently caress those guys. If talent was money they'd be the Koch bro's.
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Mar 14, 2014 20:57
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Darkman Fanpage posted:Yeah I've never really gotten the vibe of South Park being particularly conservative in its message. Sure, Matt and Trey will attempt to shove in as much libertarian poo poo as possible but it's primarily an equal opportunist show as far as comedy goes and the political message of the episodes, if there ever is one, is usually "the truth is somewhere in the middle". Eh, I guess its the libertarian poo poo that makes me think of the show as primarily "conservative," I'll cede that to you guys, its probably a centrist show.
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Mar 14, 2014 20:58
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Like its global warming episode was way more making fun of Al Gore and didn't really have any actual commentary on global warming. Is that the one where climate change is presented as a mythical beast completely fabricated out of whole cloth by Al Gore and absolutely does not exist?
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Mar 14, 2014 21:09
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800peepee51doodoo posted:Is that the one where climate change is presented as a mythical beast completely fabricated out of whole cloth by Al Gore and absolutely does not exist? Yeah but it's way more about making fun of Al Gore's insistence and perceived desire for attention than being a serious commentary on the validity of climate change.
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Mar 14, 2014 21:12
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South Park's politics are pretty much "The truth is somewhere in the middle" made flesh. The guys seem like just world libertarian shitlords, but the show itself is relentlessly centrist and an equal-opportunity offender.
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Mar 14, 2014 21:18
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The only reason they seem middle of the road is they're utterly spineless. I haven't watched it in years but I remember the Terri Schiavo episode being the worst sort "everybody's equally to blame" garbage. They're full on right wing scum.
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Mar 14, 2014 21:18
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bpower posted:The only reason they seem middle of the road is they're utterly spineless. I haven't watched it in years but I remember the Terri Schiavo episode being the worst sort "everybody's equally to blame" garbage. They're full on right wing scum. That wasn't the message of that episode, the hubbub on both sides of the debate was ramped up to maximum effect because in the end the message is No matter what their wishes were about dying, it's reasonable to assume that Kenny/Terry definitely did not wish to have their dumb vegetable face blasted across the nation for weeks on end while bumfucks from every walk of life all the way up to the U.S. Senate poked their heads into the matter, and the fact that neither side even considered that shows what assholes they are. They skewered dumb opinions that either side of the argument had but that's a rather human and nuanced take on the whole thing that made me rethink the situation. It's basically the Judgement of Solomon story except when he offered to split the baby in half both parties said "yeah that sounds reasonable". Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Mar 14, 2014 |
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Mar 14, 2014 21:23
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FMguru posted:South Park's politics are pretty much "The truth is somewhere in the middle" made flesh. The guys seem like just world libertarian shitlords, but the show itself is relentlessly centrist and an equal-opportunity offender. Is this actually true now? I haven't watched it in several years, but during the 2000's they went after the left all the time but hardly if ever went after the right, and they didn't touch George Bush at all.
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FMguru posted:South Park's politics are pretty much "The truth is somewhere in the middle" made flesh. The guys seem like just world libertarian shitlords, but the show itself is relentlessly centrist and an equal-opportunity offender. They don't seem like just world libertarian shitlords, they are just world libertarian shitlords.
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beatlegs posted:Is this actually true now? I haven't watched it in several years, but during the 2000's they went after the left all the time but hardly if ever went after the right, and they didn't touch George Bush at all. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/That%27s_My_Bush! Except most of the joke there was that they weren't actually making many political jokes. I guess the actual answer is Team America. If you can't find an anti-Bush message in Team America World Police just because they never actually said his name then I don't know what the gently caress. If anything I think they're contrarians at heart. If you like it, they want to poo poo on it. Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Mar 14, 2014 |
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Mar 14, 2014 21:32
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Intel&Sebastian posted:That wasn't the message of that episode, the hubbub on both sides of the debate was ramped up to maximum effect because in the end the message is No matter what their wishes were about dying, it's reasonable to assume that Kenny/Terry definitely did not wish to have their dumb vegetable face blasted across the nation for weeks on end while bumfucks from every walk of life all the way up to the U.S. Senate poked their heads into the matter, and the fact that neither side even considered that shows what assholes they are. They skewered dumb opinions that either side of the argument had but that's a rather human and nuanced take on the whole thing that made me rethink the situation. Yeah, they took an important issue and turned it into "ew she looks gross".
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If that's really what you got out of it then you have comprehension issues. The climax of the entire episode is a letter from Kenny that seems like it's about to answer the question of what his intentions were if he was turned into a medical vegetable but the letter actually says "whatever you do don't let them put me on TV looking retarded". It's an important issue that should be dealt with in private, they mostly avoid engaging in earnest at all with the actual question of live or die and in the end what they pointed out was that arguing over someones wishes about life support is stupid when you're very obviously violating other wishes you could all agree Kenny/Terri probably held. Like not being beamed into every house in America while she's in a brain dead state. Think about it this way: If Terri Schiavo really did magically recover into full health, how do you think she would feel about how her husband and family treated her during the whole ordeal? They took a private family issue and instead of settling it in private they went to dueling news networks and political parties so they could get what they wanted. No matter which side ended up being "right" they were still a firsthand reason why it turned into a national fiasco. I can't speak for her but I would've been loving pissed too. That's the point. Again, Judgement of Solomon: two ladies say "that's my baby" (aka I know what Terri wanted), no good evidence either way, judge says "I'm gonna split this baby in half and give you each one" (AKA "if you can't agree and no one concedes, and you decide to go to the news channels with this, it's going to turn into a national shitshow). At this point someone who actually gives a poo poo about the baby would say "Whoa poo poo, don't do that, just give it to that other lady" (AKA "I care enough about this person to have my wishes, or whatever I thought their wishes were, violated to avoid making them into a media circus and political football for millions of people"). Sorry I had a lot of emotions tied up in the Schiavo thing that all kind of shifted when that SP episode got me thinking deeper. Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Mar 14, 2014 |
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bpower posted:The only reason they seem middle of the road is they're utterly spineless. I haven't watched it in years but I remember the Terri Schiavo episode being the worst sort "everybody's equally to blame" garbage. They're full on right wing scum. The only thing about them that is right wing scum is that they are willing to make a buck off anything. Other than that, everything else about their show is offensive to anything considered conservative by American standards. They openly mock religion. Only Mormons go to heaven, God is a Buddhist, and Satan is a sympathetic character. Rural Americans are bigots and idiots, and fall prey to pretty much any fad or con. The kids swear like truck driving sailors and get involved in all sorts of wildly inappropriate situations/discussions. They had a 'Christmas Show' with blood orgies and abortion jokes, which turned out to be a story being read in an elementary school classroom.
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bpower posted:The only reason they seem middle of the road is they're utterly spineless. I haven't watched it in years but I remember the Terri Schiavo episode being the worst sort "everybody's equally to blame" garbage. They're full on right wing scum. Or the Iraq War episode, or the voting doesn't matter episode. And they can really go gently caress themselves for the anti-writers strike episode. Really gently caress them and their Shitlord Libertarian faces forever that episode was so goddamn disingenuous over a serious issue so they could act like no money is made on the internet.
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KomradeX posted:Or the Iraq War episode, or the voting doesn't matter episode. And they can really go gently caress themselves for the anti-writers strike episode. Really gently caress them and their Shitlord Libertarian faces forever that episode was so goddamn disingenuous over a serious issue so they could act like no money is made on the internet. Almost as if the middle road between a libertarian shithead's strawman of a democrat and a republican is actually a conservative position.
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South Park is best when they don't get too preachy about politics/current events/fads Lil' Crime Stoppers for example was a great episode just pretty much doing general satire on cop shows. It was "Naked Gun"-level hilarious.
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sleepingbuddha posted:A new challenger to The Daily Show has arrived, fair and balanced! That was horrible. I didn't even make it thru the promo video. I wasn't offended by it, it was just boring, not funny, not controversial and certainly not informative. And the guy hosting it, Michael Loftus, is just some obscure conservative to me. Before the Daily Show ever existed, I knew who Joh Stewart was; then, we all got to know Colbert before he got his own show. I knew who Bill Engvall and Jeff Foxworthy were before they ever had shows. Conservative producers just seem to pull some obscure nobody out of the conservative universe and expect them to be able to have the same draw as the Daily Show. The promo clip really lost me when they panned the audience and it was all old white people. I would never pay to see that poo poo in real life. edit: I suppose everyone has heard by now that Palin is getting her very own online channel, Rouge TV. radical meme fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Mar 15, 2014 |
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radical meme posted:That was horrible. I didn't even make it thru the promo video. I wasn't offended by it, it was just boring, not funny, not controversial and certainly not informative. And the guy hosting it, Michael Loftus, is just some obscure conservative to me. Before the Daily Show ever existed, I knew who Joh Stewart was; then, we all got to know Colbert before he got his own show. I knew who Bill Engvall and Jeff Foxworthy were before they ever had shows. Conservative producers just seem to pull some obscure nobody out of the conservative universe and expect them to be able to have the same draw as the Daily Show. The promo clip really lost me when they panned the audience and it was all old white people. I would never pay to see that poo poo in real life. This man is very unhappy with you right now. 
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A Winner is Jew posted:This man is very unhappy with you right now. Oh poo poo, I'm sorry Craig. By the way, here's some comedy of that guy Michael Loftus where he calls a woman a oval office and his 1 year old yelling gently caress is hilarious.
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Strawman posted:Almost as if the middle road between a libertarian shithead's strawman of a democrat and a republican is actually a conservative position. This, pretty much. Reminds me of that old saying the halfway point between the truth and a lie is still a lie. I've enjoyed South Park in the Past though I haven't watched in about 3 years nothing really drove me away I just stopped watching it. I was thinking about picking up the game during like a Steam Sale during the summer or maybe christmas. I just remember how bad the thread for that got in Games with people telling some of the few that were hoping they would stay away from politics in the game to get out.
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Strawman posted:Almost as if the middle road between a libertarian shithead's strawman of a democrat and a republican is actually a conservative position. In the US the Democrat position is a conservative position.
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Yeah but it's way more about making fun of Al Gore's insistence and perceived desire for attention than being a serious commentary on the validity of climate change. Climate change isn't real and Al Gore just wants attention is the message I got from that episode.
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sleepingbuddha posted:A new challenger to The Daily Show has arrived, fair and balanced!
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mr. mephistopheles posted:In the US the Democrat position is a conservative position. 
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Intel&Sebastian posted:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/That%27s_My_Bush! "That's My Bush" was made pre-9/11, I believe. After that they were totally hands off. They did take on jingoism in general in "Team America", but if they could go after Michael Moore, Alec Baldwin and Sean Penn by name then they sure as hell could've gone after Bush but they didn't.
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beatlegs posted:"That's My Bush" was made pre-9/11, I believe. After that they were totally hands off. Yeah prety much this. Bullshit that they created some vague "gung ho" patriot team but still went ahead with the "pussies dicks and assholes" speech that's basically "a good guy with a gun" applied to foreign policy. They're lightweights who understand pop culture, transgressive humor and can write catchy music. Their understanding of politics and application of satire related to it are shallow and often spineless.
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bpower posted:The only reason they seem middle of the road is they're utterly spineless. I haven't watched it in years but I remember the Terri Schiavo episode being the worst sort "everybody's equally to blame" garbage. They're full on right wing scum. What? You're substituting your own viewpoint on them, projecting or something, because the clear message of that episode was "shame on the people making this private event a public and political spectacle. "
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