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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Why would you kill the passengers if you were hijacking the plane? For almost any conceivable purpose you're better off with the passengers as hostages.
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Ending search operations in the South China Sea and refocusing their efforts on two new flight corridors (than are much larger than the area they had been searching, from the sound of it).
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Why would you kill the passengers if you were hijacking the plane? For almost any conceivable purpose you're better off with the passengers as hostages. what if the hijacker is a REALLY horny necrophiliac
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# ? Mar 15, 2014 07:31 |
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:what if the hijacker is a REALLY horny necrophiliac Yeah, what if this?
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# ? Mar 15, 2014 07:31 |
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well that was worth staying up for...
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# ? Mar 15, 2014 07:32 |
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Why would you kill the passengers if you were hijacking the plane? For almost any conceivable purpose you're better off with the passengers as hostages. Depends on what your objective is. If you just want the aircraft, the passengers are a nuisance and a threat. If you want to get somewhere without being shot out of the sky, they're a bargaining chip. Check out the "sky-jackings" of the 1970s and 1980s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_hijackings#1970s
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# ? Mar 15, 2014 07:32 |
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We.................didn't..................find..................poo poo.......
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# ? Mar 15, 2014 07:33 |
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haha they just let this run over the entire first half of the local news
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# ? Mar 15, 2014 07:34 |
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The Casualty posted:I'd normally throw this theory right out the window with it being a POST 9/11 WORLD what with sealed cockpit doors and all, but that story about the co-pilot inviting total strangers up front because he thought they might bang him makes this depressingly plausible. Could have been between just the two pilots
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ShutteredIn posted:We.................didn't..................find..................poo poo....... *flash flash flash flash flash flash flash*
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ShutteredIn posted:We.................didn't..................find..................poo poo....... they sure as poo poo found some microphones
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Lolie posted:Depends on what your objective is. If you just want the aircraft, the passengers are a nuisance and a threat. If you want to get somewhere without being shot out of the sky, they're a bargaining chip. Check out the "sky-jackings" of the 1970s and 1980s. my own spooky, slightly-crazy theory is a suicide with a purpose. Pilot is ready to die, but doesn't want it to look like a suicide. He makes it look like the plane just mysteriously vanished in some kind of "asian triangle", living on in legend, never to be seen again. He makes sure of it by sneaking it out into the middle of nowhere in the south indian ocean far from any likely search areas before going down. He doesn't know about the military radar and satellites picking up what he did, for all he knows we're still looking around in the China sea for months and years before giving up. Northjayhawk fucked around with this message at 07:42 on Mar 15, 2014 |
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There was that guy who tried to hijack a fedex plane and crash it so it looked like an accident and his family would get an insurance payment. I dunno, maybe something similar happened here.
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# ? Mar 15, 2014 07:41 |
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This is a lot of complicated, time-consuming poo poo to do if all you want is to nosedive into the ocean.
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You have to feel sorry for the families. They're going to be desperately hoping that those aboard are still alive even though it would make no sense for hijackers to keep them alive. And I can't think of a Western leader who would have been able to say "we think the plane was hijacked" without actually using the word. quote:He makes sure of it by sneaking it out into the middle of nowhere in the south indian ocean far from any likely search areas before going down. The problem with that theory is their fuel range. From the maps I saw, the flight couldn't have made it that far - the "outside" range seemed around the north west of Australia, well within our heavily patrolled migration exclusion zone. And yeah, it seems strange that you'd intentionally try to avoid the location of your flight being known if you were planning to just crash it into the ocean anyway (unlike the 11 September flights where there was a theoretical possibility of being shot down if their flight paths became apparent before they reached their targets). Lolie fucked around with this message at 07:48 on Mar 15, 2014 |
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Disconnecticus posted:This is a lot of complicated, time-consuming poo poo to do if all you want is to nosedive into the ocean. so, perhaps he doesn't want to just nosedive in the ocean. If he does that, there will be debris, the wreck and black box will be found, and they'll figure it out. If it is a suicide, then that apparently matters, for some reason.
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# ? Mar 15, 2014 07:43 |
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imo the plane went to the moon
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# ? Mar 15, 2014 07:44 |
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Elysiume posted:imo the plane went to the moon Me too.
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# ? Mar 15, 2014 07:47 |
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If the cabin was depressurised at 40k feet, what would the passengers be feeling? As in, do they just pass out straight away, or get a nasty head ache then pass out? Yawning? Bleeding ears?
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# ? Mar 15, 2014 07:58 |
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i figured out what happened to the plane
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# ? Mar 15, 2014 08:00 |
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Three Olives posted:Oddly it seems CNN International isn't carrying this live. What a surprise CNN isn't carrying something relatively important. Instead they'd rather talk about dresses. Cannot Find Server posted:of all the theories i've heard, this is the most depressing. Yeah it would be a tragedy to be stuck inside that sad brained game.
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toggle posted:If the cabin was depressurised at 40k feet, what would the passengers be feeling? As in, do they just pass out straight away, or get a nasty head ache then pass out? Yawning? Bleeding ears? At 40K you would have several seconds time of useful consciousness, as in single digits.
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Malaysia flight MH370: Pitbull song lyrics bear uncanny resemblance to missing plane mystery:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ry-9189228.html Lyrics include 'Two passports, three cities, two countries, one day'<...>Pitbull's lines include 'Now it's off to Malaysia' and 'Two passports, three cities, two countries, one day'. Watch Shakira/Pitbul video. At 2:33 it flashed quickly scene with bus and on it there is graphic of TRIDENT with King and Snake. Trident has been in news non-stop.Ukraine Coat of Arms is Trident,Two SEALs that overdosed on ship worked for Trident group,Navy commander found dead in Orange Park,FL went to Trident Academy,Maserati ad during Superbowl for first time and their logo is Trident. Even Malaysia logo is bird that looks like Trident on side. King might refer to prince William who "coincidentally" is having vacation in Maldivi,not that far from disappeared plane. Snake represents Satan. Shakira is 37 years old,Pitbull is 33 years old. Flight number was MH370 on flight that suppose to be 3700 kilometers. If you multiply 3x7x37 you get 777 as Boeing 777. Flight MH370.....M is 13th letter,H is 8th (8+13=21),again multipley 21 with 37 and you get 777. 33 is number of SACRIFICE and not sure what 37 should be BUT Last year Asiana crash in California was also Boeing 777,crashed in SF which is on 37th degree and flew from Soul which is on 37.33 degree while killing 3 Chinese girls. Fukushima power plant disaster also occurred in March 2011 on 37th degree in Japan with 37 injuries. Coincidentally Air France 447 crash near Brazil was on 3.03 degree and almost on exact same north parallel as disappearance of MH370. govt sources posted:Last known data from #MH370 showed jet on heading of 333°, air speed of 270 kts at altitude of 2,400 ft. Missing plane make number: 777 33 and 777 known to carry numerology significance in illuminati/occult rituals: 11, 13 and 33: The Illuminati / Freemason Signature British occultist/freemason/magician Aleister Crowley wrote occult tome Liber 777 Vel Prolegoma Symbolica Ad Systemam Sceptico-Mysticae Viae Explicande, Fundamentum Hieroglyphicum Sanctissimorum Scientiae Summae. Aleister Crowley was a heroin addict bisexual satan-worshipper known as "The Beast 666" and known member of freemason. 777 appear along side other masonic imagery during 2013 MTV VMA Discuss.
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hofnar posted:AT 40K you would have several seconds time of useful consciousness, as in single digits.
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Doobie here... I'm prezident of Malaysia now.... Restaurant opening soon... Just gotta finish finding the plane... God bless..
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hofnar posted:At 40K you would have several seconds time of useful consciousness, as in single digits. Which honestly might be better than surviving for 10 minutes on oxygen masks and having time to realise that the oxygen is going to run out and you're going to die anyway. The information I can find says that passengers would feel "disoriented" within about 10 seconds, progressing to unconsciousness and then death (assuming decompression isn't explosive). Sounds like a speeded up version of altitude sickness. Lolie fucked around with this message at 08:12 on Mar 15, 2014 |
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toggle posted:If the cabin was depressurised at 40k feet, what would the passengers be feeling? As in, do they just pass out straight away, or get a nasty head ache then pass out? Yawning? Bleeding ears? E: Unless your sinuses were really congested bleeding ears probably would not happen. The body adjusts to depressurization pretty naturally. Yawning and general sluggishness for sure though. Bishop fucked around with this message at 08:14 on Mar 15, 2014 |
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Elysiume posted:imo the plane went to the moon If by "the moon" you mean "the plane currently exists 3 weeks into the past after flying into a wormhole, and is about to be eaten by the Langoliers", then yes.
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goatse.cx posted:Malaysia flight MH370: Pitbull song lyrics bear uncanny resemblance to missing plane mystery:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ry-9189228.html hi kyoon
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Elysiume posted:Would the passing out feel more like being light headed until you conked out, or more like suffocating You are not going to go straight from normal cabin pressure to 40K unless you have some kind of structural failure, which would be explosive decompression, and that's a lot more violent, and loss of consciousness is very rapid. In a scenario like I think you and the guy above are asking about, the loss of pressure would be less rapid, so light headedness, tingly fingers, euphoria sometimes, then a nap. Never heard of anyone having a suffocating feeling.
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Bishop posted:So I have to go at this in reverse because I normally think about these things with regards to increasing pressure underwater. I'd say a rapid depressurization would not kill you, because it's not even one atmosphere worth of pressure. If they were at 40,000 feet and breathing outside air they would be hypoxic but would probably make it a few minutes before passing out. Their ppO2 would be way too low but not immediate death low, maybe sooner because of how fast they'd be breathing. So this would be the more pleasant way to die on a plane. Rather than being a firey meteor or being sucked out of the toilet rear end first.
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Gonz posted:If by "the moon" you mean "the plane currently exists 3 weeks into the past after flying into a wormhole, and is about to be eaten by the Langoliers", then yes. Don't worry they'll pop open a bottle of champagne to get drink and see that it still fizzles.
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toggle posted:So this would be the more pleasant way to die on a plane. Hypoxia isn't so bad Just not in the closet with your mom's nylons on you sick gently caress ETA: I don't think hitting the ground REAL hard would be a bad way to go either, but the fiery meteor part is on the low end of the good/bad scale hofnar fucked around with this message at 08:20 on Mar 15, 2014 |
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Hypoxia is really one of the better ways to go - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTNX6mr753w
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Gonz posted:If by "the moon" you mean "the plane currently exists 3 weeks into the past after flying into a wormhole, and is about to be eaten by the Langoliers", then yes.
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toggle posted:So this would be the more pleasant way to die on a plane.
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goatse.cx posted:Malaysia flight MH370: Pitbull song lyrics bear uncanny resemblance to missing plane mystery:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ry-9189228.html ok, now do it in base 12.
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# ? Mar 15, 2014 09:02 |
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According to the AP, it's been confirmed Malaysia thinks it's a Hijacking. May have been said previously, but I thought I'd just post it again. We're approaching the Tom Clancy singularity.
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Disconnecticus posted:Hypoxia is really one of the better ways to go - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTNX6mr753w Goddamn, gently caress oxygen bars in Vegas, lets make some hypoxia bars
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The Bananana posted:According to the AP, it's been confirmed Malaysia thinks it's a Hijacking. May have been said previously, but I thought I'd just post it again. We're approaching the Tom Clancy singularity. The presser was weird in that the PM said that the evidence suggests the plane disappeared because of deliberate actions by someone on the plane but right at the end when mentioning media reports of a hijacking pretty much waffled around the issue and said they don't know what happened (factual, of course) before mentioning where they'll now be focusing their search efforts. I guess it's a matter of semantics, to some degree. "Hijacking" implies someone other than the pilots taking control of an aircraft for a purpose other than simply killing themselves and they don't really have any good theories about other reasons why someone might have taken control of the plane at the moment - or at least none which make any sense.
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