Sampatrick posted:

Its because literally every member of Paradox is a racist, eurocentric rear end in a top hat who thinks that Europeans are naturally superior to all other peoples.

Dibujante posted:

The technical challenges of that would be massive. Dynamic borders in a province-based system would absolutely murder the hundreds of pre-baked computation lookups the Clausewitz engine uses to not grind to a halt when calculating things like travel times, army paths, etc.

A Buttery Pastry posted:

I'm looking forward to the day when Paradox finally gives up on this old-fashioned approach to their map and gets with the times. I don't think my expectations are out of line, but I'll let people be the judge of that themselves.

1. Provinces still exist, but their borders are dynamic. Think how cities and hexes work in the Civilization series, except the player can adjust them for provinces they control or when making peace deals.
2. Additional cities can be built, which allows the splitting of a province. A minimum square pixel size ensures that provinces do not get too small to click, and prevents cities from being built if they would break this rule. The cache for neighboring provinces is rebuilt when a city is added.
3. A new map is added to the map folder, tradegoods.bmp. This defines the starting trade good produced in each pixel. This is used to define the province trade goods. The same is done for tax, culture, religion, and other relevant statistics.
4. The terrain can change over time, alongside tradegoods, cultures, tax, and so on, so we can finally have dynamic changes to the world.

I think these are all rather sensible suggestions, and I hope the fine people at Paradox will take them to heart.

E: If completely dynamic cities are too difficult, perhaps a cities.bmp, defining potential city locations could be a compromise?

YF-23 posted:

I'm thinking about how clausewitz games are made and how they run and I think about your suggestions and I'm 90% certain the games would run slow as hell and take up way too much RAM if they got that kind of redesign.

Rincewind posted:

What if instead of bothering with abstractions like "provinces" or "trade goods", Paradox just made the game a 100% accurate simulation of every individual person and object in the world?

Patter Song posted:

I have it, and I'm sure others do. I don't want to put it up on Dropbox or something because I'm not looking to get PI's legal department upset at me.

Slim Jim Pickens posted:

Video games are not modular additions to generic code. I don't even understand what "integrate Mount and Blade" would mean in gameplay terms.

Agean90 posted:

In gameplay terms it means that people are joking

lullelulle posted:

You hold the left mouse button as you swipe left, right, up or down and when you release it your nation will conquer in that general direction.

A Buttery Pastry posted:

Alikchi posted:

I was actually looking at that mod earlier. The artistic style is pretty nice, and some of the changes are good! But then I discovered that he'd started removing vanilla provinces (New Zealand's North Island is only one province now, for instance) and also, look at this:



Argh.

Autonomous Monster posted:

Never stop being the craziest mapcrazy, Butters

Autonomous Monster posted:

Alright, serious question time. If this is too autistic for you guys, how would you feel about something like this:



?

I've simplified most of the really complicated provinces from DAOLITE/V2, but I didn't think Prussia was super problematic on that score.

vyelkin posted:

Integrate Mount and Blade, Total War, Real Lives, and Paradox games into one megagame that simulates every single person in every country in the world and lets you take command of every one of them. Implement Oblivion's dynamic AI too, so that I can really get immersed in playing a random Aztec peasant who dies of smallpox at age 17.

Sampatrick posted:

You should combine Warmia's weird extremity with Memel Danzig so it looks better.

Autonomous Monster posted:

Alright, serious question time. If this is too autistic for you guys, how would you feel about something like this:

Autonomous Monster posted:

Oh, good, someone knows what's going on.


So, like, the HOI4 system?


Never stop being the craziest mapcrazy, Butters


Alright, serious question time. If this is too autistic for you guys, how would you feel about something like this:



?

I've simplified most of the really complicated provinces from DAOLITE/V2, but I didn't think Prussia was super problematic on that score.

Dibujante posted:

Ah, just make it all one province, then challenge Polish and German nationalists to make heads or tails of it. In the same thread.

Kavak posted:

Plus the Lithuanians and the Russians.

vyelkin posted:

Integrate Mount and Blade, Total War, Real Lives, and Paradox games into one megagame that simulates every single person in every country in the world and lets you take command of every one of them. Implement Oblivion's dynamic AI too, so that I can really get immersed in playing a random Aztec peasant who dies of smallpox at age 17.

Farecoal posted:

In all seriousness this is my loving dream game

It's mankind's ultimate goal

A Buttery Pastry posted:

I'm looking forward to the day when Paradox finally gives up on this old-fashioned approach to their map and gets with the times. I don't think my expectations are out of line, but I'll let people be the judge of that themselves.

1. Provinces still exist, but their borders are dynamic. Think how cities and hexes work in the Civilization series, except the player can adjust them for provinces they control or when making peace deals.
2. Additional cities can be built, which allows the splitting of a province. A minimum square pixel size ensures that provinces do not get too small to click, and prevents cities from being built if they would break this rule. The cache for neighboring provinces is rebuilt when a city is added.
3. A new map is added to the map folder, tradegoods.bmp. This defines the starting trade good produced in each pixel. This is used to define the province trade goods. The same is done for tax, culture, religion, and other relevant statistics.
4. The terrain can change over time, alongside tradegoods, cultures, tax, and so on, so we can finally have dynamic changes to the world.

I think these are all rather sensible suggestions, and I hope the fine people at Paradox will take them to heart.

E: If completely dynamic cities are too difficult, perhaps a cities.bmp, defining potential city locations could be a compromise?

vyelkin posted:

Integrate Mount and Blade, Total War, Real Lives, and Paradox games into one megagame that simulates every single person in every country in the world and lets you take command of every one of them. Implement Oblivion's dynamic AI too, so that I can really get immersed in playing a random Aztec peasant who dies of smallpox at age 17.

double nine posted:

Do you know what the reason was for Asian and African provinces to have the size of about 10 european provinces? Was it because paradox considered Europe to be more important and so spent more manpower fleshing out Europe's landschape; or because of performance reasons (# provinces bogging the game down)?

Tahirovic posted:

The only thing Africa needs is some provinces bordering all of the lakes so you can actually discover them and get the achievement for discovering everything

I didn't get achievement because by 1790, 300 years after I took over the east African coast Lake Victoria (?) and an other lake there are still terra incognita

jsoh posted:

It will never be released both because its unfinished and nobody is working on it, and because they have no rights to distribute it.

forkis posted:

I just got the achievement a couple days ago with several African lakes still under TI. Are you sure you didn't forget an ocean province, probably one of the useless ones in the far south Indian ocean?

Demiurge4 posted:

Going back two pages someone posted screenshots from World Stage (old Magna Mundi) what's the actual status on that? Will they actually be able to release without any legal wrangles and is it any good at all?

A Buttery Pastry posted:

Let me put it this way: I LOVED Magna Mundi the Mod, but I couldn't even deal with playing a single decade of World Stage. It's awful gameplay wrapped in awful interface.

Gort posted:

I'd love to see a Paradox version of Civilization Master of Orion.

Demiurge4 posted:

I'd really like Paradox to move into some fantasy or sci fi games. History is cool and everything but the engine can be used to create some incredible colonization games.

double nine posted:

I'd love to see a Paradox version of Civilization Master of Orion.

Disco Infiva posted:

My liege, an Elerian ambassador has proposed an alliance between our mighty Empires!

- Tell her that we will accept the proposal, let the bad blood between us wash away like a river under a bridge!

- Tell her that we must decline the proposal, and send her head away to deliver our response to the Queen!

- Give her a good tumble

Comet Sighted posted:

Peasants are always superstitious, and the appearance of a comet in the sky has caused panic among our people. They are convinced that this is a sign that the end of times is near or that something bad is going to happen in the near future.

- Stop looking at the sky!

- Give it a good tumble

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

Paradox is one of the only companies out there making nerdy history games, whereas every loving game made by everyone else is fantasy/sci fi poo poo. Let the history weirdos have one thing...

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

Paradox is one of the only companies out there making nerdy history games, whereas every loving game made by everyone else is fantasy/sci fi poo poo. Let the history weirdos have one thing...