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Whoever was bitching about the difficulty jump in Magic Forge, jesus christ you were right. On Easy I was winning pretty much every game. The AI isn't super effective at using some of the techy combos, but sometimes it used it pretty effectively. I still won most of my games, and the ones I lost were at least a little close. Jumped up to medium, and immediately got annihilated by two decks with idiot-proof game plans of "drop lands, count the lands, it means bad things for you". Which is just un-fun to play against with my limited deck. Limited vs Constructed is just a huge bummer.
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Aluren player wins by beatdown after getting his Aluren Surgical Extracion'd. I love seeing weird crap like that in legacy.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 01:38 |
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After the Delver thing, what is the recommendation for people with maybe "not opaque enough" sleeves? Do I have to find checklist cards?
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 01:42 |
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standard.deviant posted:After the Delver thing, what is the recommendation for people with maybe "not opaque enough" sleeves? Do I have to find checklist cards?
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Devor posted:Whoever was bitching about the difficulty jump in Magic Forge, jesus christ you were right. On Easy I was winning pretty much every game. The AI isn't super effective at using some of the techy combos, but sometimes it used it pretty effectively. I still won most of my games, and the ones I lost were at least a little close. It sinkholed me turns 2 and 3 once. I lost that match. EDIT: I've also seen it go: Land, Mox, Mox, end turn.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 01:48 |
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Devor posted:Whoever was bitching about the difficulty jump in Magic Forge, jesus christ you were right. On Easy I was winning pretty much every game. The AI isn't super effective at using some of the techy combos, but sometimes it used it pretty effectively. I still won most of my games, and the ones I lost were at least a little close. It's quite an obnoxious jump, yes. On the other hand, the AI is still completely incompetent (one example: it will attack a 2/2 into a pair of 1/3s every time. But it will never attack a 2/2 into something that would trade with it, even when the trade is favourable), so all you really need is some Limited-grade removal and solid creatures to grind out wins. It also doesn't understand creature abilities - it will block a Festering Newt with a 2-toughness creature, and will never sacrifice anything to Desecration Demon even when you're swinging for lethal. Even with all the power the AI has access to, a typical Standard deck would just walk all over it. And as much fun as getting old cards is, you're much better off opening Standard packs for getting power creatures and the like.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 01:49 |
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To a person who doesn't play in serious tournaments, taking a game loss for not-opaque-enough sleeves seems pretty arbitrary. I'm going to assume that it's me not connecting the dots, and not some draconian punishment. I have clear sleeves for some of my decks -- I can't see how that gives me an unfair advantage. Would anyone care to enlighten me? e: is it because some cards appear more tattered than others (moderately played/ heavily played) than others, and that it could be considered 'marked' cards?
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Dungeon Ecology posted:To a person who doesn't play in serious tournaments, taking a game loss for not-opaque-enough sleeves seems pretty arbitrary. I'm going to assume that it's me not connecting the dots, and not some draconian punishment. e: nevermind, I was wrong vOv fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Mar 17, 2014 |
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dokomoy posted:Aluren player wins by beatdown after getting his Aluren Surgical Extracion'd. I love seeing weird crap like that in legacy. That's the main advantage Aluren has over other combo decks. It's built to have a plan B.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 01:52 |
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Jabor posted:It's quite an obnoxious jump, yes. On the other hand, the AI is still completely incompetent (one example: it will attack a 2/2 into a pair of 1/3s every time. But it will never attack a 2/2 into something that would trade with it, even when the trade is favourable), so all you really need is some Limited-grade removal and solid creatures to grind out wins. It also doesn't understand creature abilities - it will block a Festering Newt with a 2-toughness creature, and will never sacrifice anything to Desecration Demon even when you're swinging for lethal. Even with all the power the AI has access to, a typical Standard deck would just walk all over it. Yeah It behaves oddly sometimes: it didn't attack for ages despite outnumbering me with Persist creatures because I had a Black Knight with a sword of light and shadow equipped. Also I just got to Beacon of Unrest this GB Mortivore decks Geth, and then used the geth to get a 32/32 Lord of Extinction EDIT: For removal, check the Ravinca spell shop often: you get the chance to see stuff like Ultimate Price, Putrefy and Mortify.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 01:55 |
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vOv posted:Delver is a double-faced card, so if you could see the backs of your cards you'd have a massive advantage. If you're not running double-faced cards, or if you're using the checklist card which has a normal back, it doesn't matter how opaque your sleeves are. quote:Thoughts after the Event
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 01:57 |
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haha I don't know if it's just me today or is Patrick Chapin really funny once again. He's talking about vietnam and KFC and whatever and I'm just cracking up
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 01:59 |
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Yeah that makes sense -- I hadn't really thought of double-faced cards. I guess you just run the goofy double-faced card insert and just have your Delvers locked-and-loaded on the side, or you just run sleeves you can't even remotely see through. I wonder if he bought the sleeves the day-of, or whether he's been testing the deck using them. e: n/m the above post makes the situation clear. Dungeon Ecology fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Mar 17, 2014 |
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Korak posted:Its not about the checklist specifically, its about not using sleeves that a Judge would say is too see through.
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standard.deviant posted:I use KMC matte blue sleeves, and I think they're good, but it seems like a dumb reason to catch a game loss. Are other proxy options allowed, or does it need to be the checklists? It absolutely has to be the checklist.
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Bonus posted:haha I don't know if it's just me today or is Patrick Chapin really funny once again. He's talking about vietnam and KFC and whatever and I'm just cracking up I'll still randomly think of him saying 'scryed it to the bottom now we're here' and curse the fact i'll never be able to explain or use that line in any real life context and have it be as funny as it should be.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 02:06 |
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yeah, same, that was the best thing to me at GP Richmond.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 02:08 |
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GFab finished 2-0 to go to the Finals before the other semi final game had finished 1 match. That has to be scary for those guys, who both drafted a bit durdly decks.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 02:13 |
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Ohhhh friends. We are in for a treat. Feline Longmore on stream against some nerd playing a deck with no Force of Wills.
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AgentSythe posted:Ohhhh friends. We are in for a treat. Feline Longmore on stream against some nerd playing a deck with no Force of Wills. And the game loss for drawing extra cards incoming! Edit: In case you are wondering, no, it won't happen. Editedit: They actually awarded a Drawing extra cards. God, the judge forums will explode with debates. Grouchy Smurf fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Mar 17, 2014 |
# ? Mar 17, 2014 02:40 |
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Why? What's controversial about this? Isn't it routine practice that if you draw extra cards and put them into your hand, you get a game loss
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 02:44 |
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^^^ She's like known for the deck. She knows every good build of High Tide there currently is and plays enough paper that its a bit shocking.Grouchy Smurf posted:And the game loss for drawing extra cards incoming! Oh she drew too many off against a Spirit of the Labyrinth? fuuuuuuck.
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Korak posted:Feline got a game loss for drawing extra? She plays the deck so much that's hard to believe. edit: do people usually match the colors of their shirts to the colors of mana they run? edit2: minus points for not wearing blue pants though hey mom its 420 fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Mar 17, 2014 |
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Haha GFab drafted his WR 13-15 land deck? This poo poo is over, wrap it up.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 02:47 |
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You know, high tide is fun and all, but man is it slow as hell.
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Bonus posted:Why? What's controversial about this? Isn't it routine practice that if you draw extra cards and put them into your hand, you get a game loss The ruling was correct. She draw an extra card, that wasn't due to another illegal action (for example casting a spell that she couldn't normally cast). The IPG, however, states that if all cards in the player's hard are known, you can fix the problem and downgrade the penalty to a warning. Her hand was known, due to the inquisition the turn before. She had 3 lands in hard, drew the cantrip and played the cantrip. I can see an argument that this downgrade should be used since a) it technically applies b) the game is live on camera and c) the Spirit of the Labyrinth is a new card that players might not be used to. I can only really disagree with the last point, since it is a competitive rules enforcement tournament. Ultimately, it's up to the head judge, so the ruling was correct. The debate is if we could be "more correct". Edit: I can't recall the cantrip she used. The above is only a debate if the spell played was one of those "reveal the card before drawing it". Grouchy Smurf fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Mar 17, 2014 |
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^^^ She used ponder. GP Montreal just lost power to the camera/lights for about a minute. Everything is breaking in MTG land today! Korak fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Mar 17, 2014 |
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So I just got back from GP Montreal. 3-3, drop. I actually got passed the pool Kenji Tsumura opened, and it was the sickest blue/white heroic build imaginable. I lost a close one in the first four rounds against nessian asp with fall of the hammer to be 3-1 going into round 4, who do I play against? Jon Stern, champion of GP atlantic city. I was still feeling good though, the deck was insane. He proceeds to rip against me: asphyxiate, divine verdict, excoriate, divine verdict, revoke existence, keepsake gorgon. Then round six I draw lands and just lose, once again against nessian asp. And that's how you scrub out with an insane pool. A couple of small play mistakes but man, randomness can be so harsh sometimes.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 03:18 |
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On GP Montreal is sounds like the judge is spending a lot of time loving up a ruling. Fall of hammer targeting the opponent's Battlewise Hoplite. In response, the hoplite's controller casts God's Willing. Asks the judge if he names red, what happens. Judge is saying the damage would still happen, to the bewilderment of the hosts. They are also saying white would be better regardless, because the creature who would be dealing the damage is white, and there is other white mana still available.
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Devor posted:On GP Montreal is sounds like the judge is spending a lot of time loving up a ruling. edit: OH I see, the hammer can't do its thing anyway if he names red. Korak fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Mar 17, 2014 |
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Korak posted:I think he wants to name red but if he does the damage on his 3/3 hoplite dies. If he names white his other card fizzles? Like the Judge can't tell him "Just name white." But it doesn't die. First gatherer ruling (c/o magiccards.info): 1/1/2014: As Fall of the Hammer tries to resolve, if only one of the targets is legal, Fall of the Hammer will still resolve but will have no effect: If the first target creature is illegal, it can’t deal damage to anything. If the second target creature is illegal, it can’t be dealt damage. This was almost ruled in the opposite fashion. By the head judge of the event. Jesus loving christ.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 03:33 |
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http://www.starcitygames.com/events/coverage/deck_tech_basic_blue_with_henr.html 4x Counterspell It's like it's 1999 and I'm watching Randy Buehler play, and loving it.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 03:36 |
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You'd think they would have figured this out years ago considering fight works the same way and is a keyword that shows up in the core set.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 03:36 |
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On the one hand, in the end it actually didn't matter even if he had to name white. On the other, this is super awkward for Wizards, especially since Gatherer is also down.
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Devor posted:On GP Montreal is sounds like the judge is spending a lot of time loving up a ruling. The last judge to speak said "If you name red, you'll still receive damage from the white source," which was the blocking creature. Judge could have been talking about combat damage. Edit: Mulletstation posted:http://www.starcitygames.com/events/coverage/deck_tech_basic_blue_with_henr.html I think Miracles has played 4x counterspell for a long time.
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clamiam45 posted:I think Miracles has played 4x counterspell for a long time. Not four. Never four.
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Myriad Truths posted:On the one hand, in the end it actually didn't matter even if he had to name white.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 03:45 |
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What a Judas posted:Not four. Never four. Oh yeah, you're right. mtgtop8 shows usually two.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 03:45 |
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Gerald Fabiano wins! Second GP for him.
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"Reid has been amazing for me all weekend. We took a team poop right before the Top 8."
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