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Quoting this post if only for going the extra mile by photoshopping in the pistol, crate and ump
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I don't think it'd be that much of a stretch to offer f2p with paid competitive season passes. edit: 5
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Mar 17, 2014 18:29
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Well, you've convinced me!
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Mar 17, 2014 18:31
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They already handle an insane userbase with TF2 and there's very little difference in the underlying architecture. It's a problem they've not only already solved but have gotten pretty good at solving. The big question is how they've going to continue to refine the model they've already developed. It's proven to be extremely profitable but every game is different and Valve is never ever happy with just staying put except for developing hl3
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Mar 17, 2014 18:33
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landw0lf, apologies for annihilating you last night. Your 5th guy wasn't supposed to leave. 
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Necc0 posted:They already handle an insane userbase with TF2 and there's very little difference in the underlying architecture. It's a problem they've not only already solved but have gotten pretty good at solving. The big question is how they've going to continue to refine the model they've already developed. It's proven to be extremely profitable but every game is different and Valve is never ever happy with just staying put except for developing hl3 I think the main difference between their F2P games (dota2/Tf2) and CS:GO right now is how harmful cheaters are in CS:GO compared to the F2P games and the lack of any direct 'buy this item from valve'. I wonder if they've found with CS:GO that they make substantially more money from the percentage they take on the community market than they'd make selling things directly? Maybe that's why they haven't made a common stattrak AK 
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Mar 17, 2014 18:48
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Zwiftef posted:I think the main difference between their F2P games (dota2/Tf2) and CS:GO right now is how harmful cheaters are in CS:GO compared to the F2P games and the lack of any direct 'buy this item from valve'. I wonder if they've found with CS:GO that they make substantially more money from the percentage they take on the community market than they'd make selling things directly? Maybe that's why they haven't made a common stattrak AK Ultimately, Valve is making tons of money and they can afford to have a few different business models (so to say) running at once to see what's successful and what's not. I'm sure they love the community market because every time an item is sold (and a single item can be sold multiple times) they make a commission. Additionally, since any money from community market buys is only available to you as steam wallet, even the money that they did not immediately take off the top as a fee will eventually be returned to them or someone else in the ecosystem that can actually move $ from it and into a bank account.
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Mar 17, 2014 18:59
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More important things that csgo needs before it goes F2P:
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Also a method to deal with hacking. If there was literally no barrier to entry, I'm betting there will be to many for Overwatch to handle. I've noticed that after steam sales you get a higher percentage of Overwatch cases of obvious triggers or wallers. I can't imagine how much worse it would be if they don't even have to pay $3.75 to get in.
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Mar 17, 2014 19:08
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astr0man posted:More important things that csgo needs before it goes F2P: The worst thing about this list is that I know if they released rare, drop in crates scanty-clad female models they would sell for like 1000s of steam bucks on the market. Thousands.
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Mar 17, 2014 19:09
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Jeza posted:The worst thing about this list is that I know if they released rare, drop in crates scanty-clad female models they would sell for like 1000s of steam bucks on the market. Clearly valve should hire me as a consultant if they really want to make bank
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Mar 17, 2014 19:10
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Maarek posted:Also a method to deal with hacking. If there was literally no barrier to entry, I'm betting there will be to many for Overwatch to handle. I've noticed that after steam sales you get a higher percentage of Overwatch cases of obvious triggers or wallers. I can't imagine how much worse it would be if they don't even have to pay $3.75 to get in.
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Mar 17, 2014 19:10
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Jeza posted:The worst thing about this list is that I know if they released rare, drop in crates scanty-clad female models they would sell for like 1000s of steam bucks on the market. I think you might be a little conservative with your estimate there. If that happened we might see our first 6 figure market item.
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Mar 17, 2014 19:11
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dy. posted:Yeah this is probably the biggest barrier to F2P. Basically no way to make cheaters pay. I guess the only real option is to have F2P be casual only or something. What they've done with Dota2 is make it where you have to play a certain amount of time before the account can play in certain modes. If you had to play for 100 hours before Competitive matchmaking opened up, would it still be worthwhile to hack / smurf? Of course, that'll mean that hackers will be ruining the new player experience.
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Mar 17, 2014 19:19
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Daeno posted:I think you might be a little conservative with your estimate there. *has aneurysm from sadness*
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Mar 17, 2014 19:20
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astr0man posted:More important things that csgo needs before it goes F2P: also, vip mode func_vehicle
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Mar 17, 2014 19:32
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Mar 17, 2014 19:48
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I want a flashlight.
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Mar 17, 2014 19:54
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Escape maps
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Mar 17, 2014 19:56
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I've played for a long time and I've never played an es_ map.
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Mar 17, 2014 19:57
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I'd rather have VIP mode than hostage maps. Oilrig where are you??
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Mar 17, 2014 19:58
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mcvey posted:I've played for a long time and I've never played an es_ map. They were way better than as_ maps!
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Mar 17, 2014 19:58
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Sylink posted:I'd rather have VIP mode than hostage maps. Oilrig where are you?? I think I had the most fun back in 1.6 on oilrig (and stacking the bathroom on militia)
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Mar 17, 2014 20:01
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Zwiftef posted:What they've done with Dota2 is make it where you have to play a certain amount of time before the account can play in certain modes. If you had to play for 100 hours before Competitive matchmaking opened up, would it still be worthwhile to hack / smurf? Of course, that'll mean that hackers will be ruining the new player experience. Yeah but who gives a poo poo you can just leave those servers without consequence
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Mar 17, 2014 20:02
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Single player missions.
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Mar 17, 2014 20:04
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Picked this up on the daily deal, it's pretty fun but I suck. The arms race is pretty fun though.
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Mar 17, 2014 20:05
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Sylink posted:I'd rather have VIP mode than hostage maps. Oilrig where are you?? oh god oilrig brings back some memories. having a server full of friends on oilrig was tons of fun.
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Mar 17, 2014 20:06
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Jeoh posted:I want a flashlight. There is a flashlight in the game, it just has to be enabled by the server and it's off by default. I use it on kz maps all the time. Also, escape maps were legit fun.
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Mar 17, 2014 20:09
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Am I the only one that misses de_rotterdam?
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Mar 17, 2014 20:09
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kalstrams posted:Single player missions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9AMxmncU3s also, i still press t to spray sometimes. although if they come back im sure they'll be monetized lol
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Mar 17, 2014 20:20
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If they go F2P you'll probably see a huge influx of players to competitive, who never make it past like Silver 4. Casual players who just want to avoid the ocean of poo poo that casual would become with a F2P model.
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Mar 17, 2014 20:32
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Look I just need Pavarotti back on the radio in cs_italy. Or maybe just replace it with "I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles)".
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Mar 17, 2014 20:41
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astr0man posted:In the past weekend I went on something like 1-16 in matchmaking and deranked 3 times. Every time I solo queued I ended up on a team with no mics with at least one unranked player. I'm now a MG1 - Send me an invite sometime if you want me to carry you up a few ranks.
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Mar 17, 2014 20:53
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ShittyPostmakerPro posted:Send me an invite sometime if you want me to carry you up a few ranks. please carry me
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Mar 17, 2014 21:10
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What happens if a group of 3 or 4 goons needs to round out a team and doesn't want to just randomly get some shitbird assigned to us? We're scrubs literally silver elite and below but at least we yell a lot about enemy movements.
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Mar 17, 2014 21:13
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Eyke posted:please carry me Nooooo, I need you to carry me. With your Negev. FAUXTON posted:What happens if a group of 3 or 4 goons needs to round out a team and doesn't want to just randomly get some shitbird assigned to us? Ask for more goons in the chat?
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Mar 17, 2014 21:15
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FAUXTON posted:We're scrubs literally silver elite and below because we yell a lot about enemy movements. This is much more likely. Communication in of itself isn't really a good thing.
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Ironsights posted:Look I just need Pavarotti back on the radio in cs_italy. Or maybe just replace it with "I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles)". He's there, just very faint.
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FAUXTON posted:What happens if a group of 3 or 4 goons needs to round out a team and doesn't want to just randomly get some shitbird assigned to us? Message me if I'm on 
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Jeoh posted:He's there, just very faint. Jeoh always plays House on Italy T side and literally sits on top of the radio, so he can enjoy that sweet, sweet symphony every round, or at least until he has to come bail us out at Cellar.
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