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Recess Rapist posted:I thought we'd lost our subforum for a minute there!
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Mar 18, 2014 07:11
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So related to the buying out of Standard conversation, what is keeping New Chandra's price so high? In particular the shiny ones. I never see anyone play her, and I have like, 5 shinies and 3 non-shinies that I'd rather not lose a ton of money on if they're going to plummet after rotation.
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Mar 18, 2014 07:19
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Recess Rapist posted:I thought we'd lost our subforum for a minute there!
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Mar 18, 2014 07:19
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Oh. Oh my. 
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Mar 18, 2014 07:21
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Count Bleck posted:Oh. Pretty much. They didn't even have the decency to put it in Odyssey block where this effect might actually be desirable every once in a blue moon. Speaking of Odyssey block: Promoted Pawn fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Mar 18, 2014 |
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Mar 18, 2014 07:28
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It might not be LED but it's modern "playable". Maybe it'll be good one day.
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Mar 18, 2014 07:32
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Here's a recent study in suck-rare:
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Mar 18, 2014 07:35
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Dungeon Ecology posted:Here's a recent study in suck-rare: IT TRIGGERS HEROIC SHUT UP.
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Mar 18, 2014 07:36
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Ok, how about this one?
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Mar 18, 2014 07:37
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Dungeon Ecology posted:Ok, how about this one? I like how EDH is the only format durdley enough for this kind of effect to even be considered and this doesn't even work there because it's a singleton format.
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Mar 18, 2014 07:41
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suicidesteve posted:
Mine is pretty similar actually. I run 24 land with 4 Mutavaults, 2x vraska in the main. I have my scooze in the side instead of main. I also have lotleth troll and Nighthowler in the main. No doom blade, no read the bones. Desecration demon is on the cut list to be replaced with herald of torment. Being able to give Polukranos or a reaper flying and +3/+3 is much better than a 6/6 for 4 mana. Most interesting interaction so far: when playing against r/g monsters, they rip triple caryatid quickly and I drop a single caryatid on my side of the board and immediately bile blight my own caryatid to kill three of my opponents. Feels good man.
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Mar 18, 2014 07:45
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Let's not forget the great granddaddy of useless loving rares everywhere. Yes I will gladly pay the equivalent of '3GGG and sacrifice 2 Forests' for a vanilla bear. Imagine paying market rates for a Legends pack these days (~$130) and getting one of these as your rare.
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Mar 18, 2014 07:49
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Dungeon Ecology posted:Ok, how about this one? My favorite story about this card is the MTGO bugfix report that says "Search the City now correctly gives an extra turn when sacrificed," meaning someone, somewhere, built a Shadowborn Apostle / Search the City deck just to try and get it to go off online, only to have it not do its one, lovely thing.
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Mar 18, 2014 07:49
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^^^ ahahaha MTGO can't even get the shittiest combo ever to work as intended. "I finally did it! My stupid homebrew finally paid -- wait a minute...what? WIZARDS!!!" 
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Mar 18, 2014 08:02
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Mezzanon posted:I run 24 land with 4 Mutavaults, 2x vraska in the main. I have my scooze in the side instead of main. I also have lotleth troll and Nighthowler in the main. No doom blade, no read the bones. Desecration demon is on the cut list to be replaced with herald of torment. Being able to give Polukranos or a reaper flying and +3/+3 is much better than a 6/6 for 4 mana. Oh man, I hadn't thought of Herald of Torment, which is embarrassing when I've been trying to find a use for them (that mono-black aggro deck is terrible I don't care what anyone says.) It's probably one of my favorite black creatures since Juzam Djinn, and almost as good. I especially like that it helps Fightohydra fight more dudes without dying. I was pretty skeptical about the Bow. I added it because I wanted to monstralize Polly just once while he was attacking, but I tried it out and every time I get it, it's really good. Mezzanon posted:Most interesting interaction so far: when playing against r/g monsters, they rip triple caryatid quickly and I drop a single caryatid on my side of the board and immediately bile blight my own caryatid to kill three of my opponents. Feels good man. I haven't gotten to live the dream yet. Believe me, I've been trying. Every time I see a Catydid game 1 I bring my Bile Blights in just in case I get that chance. Considering half of the store I occasionally play at is RG monsters, it'll eventually come up.
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Mar 18, 2014 08:20
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Rules question that actually came up tonight between my opponent and I. I have Blind Obedience out and I'm at 6 life. My opponent resolves a Ruric Thar. Can I cast a non-creature spell and extort to stay at 1 life, or will Ruric's trigger kill me first?
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Mar 18, 2014 08:24
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qbert posted:Rules question that actually came up tonight between my opponent and I. No. The extort trigger and ruric thar's trigger go on the stack at the same time, which has the non-active player's trigger resolve first, meaning you're a dead mage.
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Mar 18, 2014 08:32
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qbert posted:Rules question that actually came up tonight between my opponent and I. If it's an instant, you can cast it on your opponents turn, and your extort trigger will resolve before your opponent's Ruric Thar trigger. If you cast a non-creature spell on your turn, the Ruric Thar trigger will resolve first and you'll die.
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Mar 18, 2014 08:33
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It'll depend on which player's turn it is. Triggers will go on the stack in APNAP order, so if it's your turn you'll die before your extort trigger resolves.
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Mar 18, 2014 08:33
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qbert posted:Rules question that actually came up tonight between my opponent and I. I think it depends if it's your turn. Edit: yeah, that^. I got it backwards.
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Mar 18, 2014 08:34
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Jabor posted:If it's an instant, you can cast it on your opponents turn, and your extort trigger will resolve before your opponent's Ruric Thar trigger. If you cast a non-creature spell on your turn, the Ruric Thar trigger will resolve first and you'll die. This is good to know as I actually had Detention Sphere and Celestial Flare in hand, and now I know which one to try and use next time it happens (probably never).
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Mar 18, 2014 09:49
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Man, I never realized just how many times I use magiccards.info in any given day until it went down. Hope it's back up soon.
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Mar 18, 2014 10:46
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Hopping Ghost posted:Man, I never realized just how many times I use magiccards.info in any given day until it went down. Hope it's back up soon. It feels like part of my brain is missing.
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Mar 18, 2014 13:49
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frameset posted:It feels like part of my brain is missing.  What is a creature??
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Mar 18, 2014 14:01
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Promoted Pawn posted:Let's not forget the great granddaddy of useless loving rares everywhere. Yes I will gladly pay the equivalent of '3GGG and sacrifice 2 Forests' for a vanilla bear. Imagine paying market rates for a Legends pack these days (~$130) and getting one of these as your rare.
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Mar 18, 2014 14:24
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suicidesteve posted:So related to the buying out of Standard conversation, what is keeping New Chandra's price so high? In particular the shiny ones. I never see anyone play her, and I have like, 5 shinies and 3 non-shinies that I'd rather not lose a ton of money on if they're going to plummet after rotation. Shinys mean Eternal format playable; in this case both Legacy and Modern have decks with fringe Chandra use. I'd sell the non-foils while you can for sure.
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Mar 18, 2014 15:12
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Veyrall posted:I purchased a booster of BNG the other day because my discount makes it an okay impulse purchase from time to time. I pulled a foil Mindreaver and, without thinking, immediately tore it in half and threw it out the car window. All I can think of is that you probably could have made some kid's week by giving that to them at FNM. 
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Mar 18, 2014 15:19
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Promoted Pawn posted:Do you actually have any success with it? How many colors do you run? Simple WG slivers, bunch of lords and support slivers. Did well enough to get top 8 for the league which we're gonna fight out this weekend. Hope I'll do well.
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Mar 18, 2014 15:57
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JerryLee posted:All I can think of is that you probably could have made some kid's week by giving that to them at FNM. On the other hand, giving kids shiny pieces of trash and telling them it's a fun toy isn't that nice, even if they believe it for a short while.
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Mar 18, 2014 16:03
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Just a heads-up for Rebecca Guay fans, ie most people with good taste, her art book Kickstarter is ending in five days. It's apparently the only opportunity you'll have to get it outside of ebay. She's also tossing in a free artist proof card with sketch for every order due to the excessive funding. Zero_Grade fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Mar 18, 2014 |
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Mar 18, 2014 16:05
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Going back before, say, Mirage looking for bad rares is pretty much cheating, there was so much garbage before then. I think I'm most annoyed by the rares that could maybe almost kinda sorta be playable if they didn't cost a billion mana. Archangels's Light, Emmara Tandris, and Firemind's Foresight (even for EDH it would needs like 3 mana lopped off its cost) come to mind. And then there's the (usually red) ones that do something ~random~ like Scrambleverse or Volatile Rig. Entropic fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Mar 18, 2014 |
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Mar 18, 2014 16:06
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I know it's not a rare, but Showstopper is the most infuriating card to me. I've got a copy sitting on my desk and every once in a while "inspiration" strikes for how I can make it work with Murdergoats or some other deck. "Oh, I'll use it in response to a board wipe to win a game!" and it only targets creatures. "Oh, I'll work a Boros Reckoner in somehow and have all the damage hit him for the win!" and then it only targets opponent's creatures. Ugh.
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Mar 18, 2014 16:21
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Recess Rapist posted:I thought we'd lost our subforum for a minute there! This is a really bad opinion considering that Viridian Zealot's only real competition for artifact hate was Viridian Shaman on its printing. It saw play in a lot of lists and was legitimately a solid pick in all Mirrodin Draft formats. Sure, nowadays Qasali Pridemage puts it to shame, but Power Creep and all that. It was also solid in constructed since it was more aggressively costed as a beater than Viridian Shaman and was a good mana sink later. Viridian Zealot was a good card, it's just not impressive when compared to Qasali Pridemage in the relevant formats any more. For example, a real Mirrodin Block deck: quote:Green Attack
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Mar 18, 2014 16:23
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Zero_Grade posted:Just a heads-up for Rebecca Guay fans, ie most people with good taste, her art book Kickstarter is ending in five days. It's apparently the only opportunity you'll have to get it outside of ebay. And, as we remind people every time they poat that link, it's potentially NSFW.
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Mar 18, 2014 16:23
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Death Bot posted:I know it's not a rare, but Showstopper is the most infuriating card to me. I've got a copy sitting on my desk and every once in a while "inspiration" strikes for how I can make it work with Murdergoats or some other deck. "Oh, I'll use it in response to a board wipe to win a game!" and it only targets creatures. "Oh, I'll work a Boros Reckoner in somehow and have all the damage hit him for the win!" and then it only targets opponent's creatures. but in it's defense, that flavour text!
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Mar 18, 2014 16:30
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Instead of a tournament report, I have a tournament podcast! Myself and the co-host (Joe Zappelli, if you are from Seattle) discuss our tournament, round by round! http://media.kisw.com/a/88936337/bjgn-03-18-14-magic-the-gathering-live-from-scg-seattle-open.htm
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Mar 18, 2014 16:35
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Promoted Pawn posted:Let's not forget the great granddaddy of useless loving rares everywhere. Yes I will gladly pay the equivalent of '3GGG and sacrifice 2 Forests' for a vanilla bear. Imagine paying market rates for a Legends pack these days (~$130) and getting one of these as your rare. Back when I got into magic, this was the ultimate junk rare you could pull  As a bonus, since you would get a timeshifted card as well (which could potentially be an akroma or psionic blast), here's the timeshifted card for the ultimate junk pack  TicalStal fucked around with this message at 16:38 on Mar 18, 2014 |
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Mar 18, 2014 16:36
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Entropic posted:Going back before, say, Mirage looking for bad rares is pretty much cheating, there was so much garbage before then. On the other hand, the one card in Mirage explicitly designed to be a garbage rare is now worth ~$75 on paper or ~$125 on MTGO. Also Wood Elemental stands out even among the bad creatures and garbage rares of it's day because it wasn't even situationally good like bad rares like colorlaces were. You were at no point on the P/T curve better off running Wood Elemental than any existing vanilla creature of similar casting cost OR P/T. Edit: TicalStal posted:Back when I got into magic, this was the junk rare you could pull See that's awesome for people like me (like most of the cards from that block) because it puts a new twist on cards we had way back in the day, even if it does almost nothing.
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Mar 18, 2014 16:37
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JerryLee posted:All I can think of is that you probably could have made some kid's week by giving that to them at FNM.
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Promoted Pawn posted:On the other hand, the one card in Mirage explicitly designed to be a garbage rare is now worth ~$75 on paper or ~$125 on MTGO. I always thought it shoulda just cost 2 colourless though. (has to be 1 more than normal due to flexibility, but it would be more flavourful.)
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