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PleasantDirge
Sep 7, 2009
ASK ME ABOUT HOW NOT BEING A FUCKING ASSHOLE ON THE ROAD IS JUST LIKE BEING A JEW AT A NAZI GATHERING BECAUSE I CAN NOT UNDERSTAND HOW TO NOT BE A FUCKING ASSHOLE AND WHEN PEOPLE TREAT ME LIKE I'M A FUCKING ASSHOLE THAT IS JUST LIKE GENOCIDE

Applebees posted:

Magic Online Announcements March 18, 2014

MOCS promo for April is Force of Will.



Hahahaha now they are bribing us to play modo. Won't lie, I'm all in and fur it.

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Alaan
May 24, 2005

At least they apparently dropped out on Force of Will being on a MTGO pseudo reserve list.

RME
Feb 20, 2012

Alaan posted:

At least they apparently dropped out on Force of Will being on a MTGO pseudo reserve list.

Well, vintage masters is going to be a thing this summer.

Applebees
Jul 23, 2013

yospos

Alaan posted:

At least they apparently dropped out on Force of Will being on a MTGO pseudo reserve list.

This is the second time Force of Will has been a MOCS promo. I think this is the first time they have done an exact repeat for a MOCS promo.

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


Toshimo posted:

Apparently you are unclear on how Grindclock and/or Proliferate work.

Tell me about these awesome proliferate grindclock decks. I hope it won a pro tour.

Gyshall
Feb 24, 2009

Had a couple of drinks.
Saw a couple of things.
How do I get one of those Force of Wills?

Korak
Nov 29, 2007
TV FACIST

Gyshall posted:

Is there a modern proliferate deck at all? I loved that mechanic - and it should work with the ROE levelers too, correct?
BUG/whatever shard Planeswalker deck is possible but you're still losing to a ton of combo decks. If you're in a "fairer" meta you could probably do fairly well with a planeswalker deck. Tezzeret's Gambit and Steady Progress are really sweet cards in this sort of deck.

Oh there's also nearly Mono Green Devotion pumping out a game winning Helix Pinnacle as well... That's even more gimmicky.

Korak fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Mar 19, 2014

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002

Gyshall posted:

How do I get one of those Force of Wills?

Get 15+ QP's during MOCS?
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/other/110413/mocs2014#promos

Gyshall
Feb 24, 2009

Had a couple of drinks.
Saw a couple of things.
My LGS wants to run a Modern FNM, which I would totally go out of the way to play at, so maybe I'll brew something up.

e: ^^^ Thanks. I have three, so maybe I'll get there :shrug:

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


Gyshall posted:

My LGS wants to run a Modern FNM, which I would totally go out of the way to play at, so maybe I'll brew something up.

e: ^^^ Thanks. I have three, so maybe I'll get there :shrug:

Some of my friends have told me that phantom sealed has basically the lowest competition level of all events that give out QPs, so maybe try those if you're struggling to get to 15.

revengeanceful
Sep 27, 2006

Glory, glory Man United!

Alaan posted:

At least they apparently dropped out on Force of Will being on a MTGO pseudo reserve list.
I'm pretty sure the only restriction they've placed on Force of Will was Worth saying that it'll never be in a Masters Edition. They'll probably get around this on a technicality with Vintage Masters.

Music For Cats
May 30, 2011

The best* way to get QPs is to play in daily events. The EV (expected value) of these events are usually positive, which means on average you win more in prizes than you spend on the entry fees. You get 1 QP for going 3-1 and 3 QPs for going 4-0. Block Constructed and Standard are of course the most accessible constructed formats, but after a recent prize restructuring the sealed daily events are much closer to EV neutral. This site is great for looking at the EV of events.

Oh and this month the promo card is Lion's Eye Diamond, which is a case of an MTGO card being more expensive than the real life version.

*In the no cost sense.

Korak
Nov 29, 2007
TV FACIST
Speaking of Theros Block Constructed this deck is currently the bees knees. Once you get a Sphinx online it's just a matter of sitting on it till you have counter spells up and filtering through your deck for any answers you need as they come. Elspeth is terrible against a Sphinx and Elspeth is arguably the most played wincon in most Block decks. Stormbreath Dragon being the other wincon a lot of decks use and just so happens Sphinx blocks Dragon all day(at least until it monstrosities.)

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Korak posted:

Speaking of Theros Block Constructed this deck is currently the bees knees. Once you get a Sphinx online it's just a matter of sitting on it till you have counter spells up and filtering through your deck for any answers you need as they come. Elspeth is terrible against a Sphinx and Elspeth is arguably the most played wincon in most Block decks. Stormbreath Dragon being the other wincon a lot of decks use and just so happens Sphinx blocks Dragon all day(at least until it monstrosities.)

Someone once said to me in a match that "playing with Prognostic Sphinx feels like cheating." As he attacked with it and continually set up perfect draws, can't say I disagree with him.

Dungeon Ecology
Feb 9, 2011

I love Prognostic Sphinx because it's deceptively good. No one really freaks about a 3/5 flyer and the ability to deep-fix your draws is really underestimated. I don't believe it will last too long though. It took people a while to catch up with Nightveil Specter...

Mulletstation
May 9, 2004

mo' mullets mo' problems
Nightveil specter is only good because of devotion though (and because nighthawk rotated). In a vacuum the Sphinx is much better on its own.

Samael
Oct 16, 2012



So what's going with the hype on bitterblossom now? On mtgprice I can see them going for $43 on TCGlow and avg 60 but on MCM I see them for 17 euros. :stare: So I am a little confused.

morning wood
Oct 2, 2013
So I've been watching some tournament coverage recently, and have noticed that almost every player had a tendency to rapidly shuffle/rearrange the cards in their hand. Any reason besides other players do it so it must be cool?

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


Samael posted:

So what's going with the hype on bitterblossom now? On mtgprice I can see them going for $43 on TCGlow and avg 60 but on MCM I see them for 17 euros. :stare: So I am a little confused.

People went hard on it hoping that U/B Fae or B/W Tokens would be a thing after the unbanning, but a lot of pretty smart people have said that even a nut draw from Tokens doesn't do anything and Fae has to run some suboptimal stuff, forgoing Snapcasters for Spellstutter Sprites (or having a lower amount of Faeries than they'd like)

Maybe someone will break either archetype open but so far the card hasn't produced.

morning wood posted:

So I've been watching some tournament coverage recently, and have noticed that almost every player had a tendency to rapidly shuffle/rearrange the cards in their hand. Any reason besides other players do it so it must be cool?

It's so your opponent can't keep track of your draws.

mbt
Aug 13, 2012

morning wood posted:

So I've been watching some tournament coverage recently, and have noticed that almost every player had a tendency to rapidly shuffle/rearrange the cards in their hand. Any reason besides other players do it so it must be cool?

When you draw a card you shuffle the cards in your hand around so your opponent can't tell if you top decked a land or if you top decked a useful card

disaster pastor
May 1, 2007


morning wood posted:

So I've been watching some tournament coverage recently, and have noticed that almost every player had a tendency to rapidly shuffle/rearrange the cards in their hand. Any reason besides other players do it so it must be cool?

Gives you something to do with your hands, and can hide which card you drew this turn from your opponent. For most players, it's somewhere between unconscious habit and compulsion.

Samael
Oct 16, 2012



rabidsquid posted:

People went hard on it hoping that U/B Fae or B/W Tokens would be a thing after the unbanning, but a lot of pretty smart people have said that even a nut draw from Tokens doesn't do anything and Fae has to run some suboptimal stuff, forgoing Snapcasters for Spellstutter Sprites (or having a lower amount of Faeries than they'd like)

I just found out that the guy selling this is just obscene with his prices. Thoughtseize for 6 euros? Um, yes please :stare:

morning wood
Oct 2, 2013

Mortimer posted:

When you draw a card you shuffle the cards in your hand around so your opponent can't tell if you top decked a land or if you top decked a useful card

Oh that makes sense, didn't think of that.

Korak
Nov 29, 2007
TV FACIST

Samael posted:

I just found out that the guy selling this is just obscene with his prices. Thoughtseize for 6 euros? Um, yes please :stare:
That sounds way too good to be true?

Samael
Oct 16, 2012



Korak posted:

That sounds way too good to be true?

It's MCM, its quite legitimate. It's MP so probably a bit battered but still usable. He's also selling mint mistbinds for 4 euros each, brimaz for 15, splinter for 12 euros etc.

Mulletstation
May 9, 2004

mo' mullets mo' problems
The shuffling thing really annoys me because I feel like a lot of people do it because they see pros do it, who saw other pros do it.

There is no reason to shuffle them around your hand like that, especially if you have like, 2 cards.

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
I'm just putting this prediction here for posterity:

Damnation will be reprinted in Journey into Nyx.

Prove me wrong :colbert:

e: I forgot how much I hate esper control and its absurd mana bases and I forgot that verdict will still be in standard when JiN comes out, never mind me.

Damnation for M15 then. :shepface:

In all seriousness I do want to see Damnation again, that card is :kickinrad:

ungulateman fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Mar 19, 2014

Veyrall
Apr 23, 2010

The greatest poet this
side of the cyberpocalypse
Damnation will not be printed in Journey into Nyx. Black has enough pseudo-wrath effects as well as a mini-mutilate, which already makes it one of the top-tier decks to beat. Damnation just doesn't make sense.

Nemico
Sep 23, 2006

It's got the no-regen clause. I say it won't be.

hey mom its 420
May 12, 2007

It's also not very adherent to the color pie, is it? Not too sure about that, but I think black doesn't get sweepers like that, which is why Damnation was in planar chaos

JerryLee
Feb 4, 2005

THE RESERVED LIST! THE RESERVED LIST! I CANNOT SHUT UP ABOUT THE RESERVED LIST!
They should really make the no-regen thing an on-again, off-again thing for Standard, like other power level things. They probably won't, though.

(Is there even anything in Standard right now or recently that makes it relevant in a non-corner-case situation? The big thing I remember is Thrun and I'm drawing a blank on anything else that's caused a big regeneration splash.)

SoftNum
Mar 31, 2011

They're not going to make 8 4-mana wraths in the same standard as they try and push the power level on creatures to get them played more.

Also Golgari Charm is not irrelevant. Other creatures like Experiment One are situationally relevant.

suicidesteve
Jan 4, 2006

"Life is a maze. This is one of its dead ends.


Bonus posted:

It's also not very adherent to the color pie, is it? Not too sure about that, but I think black doesn't get sweepers like that, which is why Damnation was in planar chaos

Decree of Pain, Plague Wind, Black Sun's Zenith, Mutilate, and Life's Finale would disagree. So would Maro, for that matter. I would think black would be the most likely color to get sweepers.

But yeah, if they give Esper 8 4-mana board wipes, one of which is unregenable, I'm quitting Standard.

JerryLee posted:

(Is there even anything in Standard right now or recently that makes it relevant in a non-corner-case situation? The big thing I remember is Thrun and I'm drawing a blank on anything else that's caused a big regeneration splash.)

Lol Troll sees a little play. So does Golgari Charm, ad was mentioned above.

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
I withdraw my previous statement.

On a more interesting topic, ugh why is Voice of Resurgence A: a mythic and B: expensive even by mythic standards? (rhetorical question)

Like, it's GW's only good answer to control and board wipes (Rootborn Defenses is okay but why not play RD AND Voice?) but of course it creates a dichotomy of 'you have money therefore you win FNM' and 'you do not therefore you lose FNM'. :saddowns:

AegisP
Oct 5, 2008
Probably because it's a pretty great 2-drop for Pod and I think it sees Legacy play as well (maybe not)?

Similar to Deathrite Shaman if it was unbanned in Modern.

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem

ungulateman posted:

I withdraw my previous statement.

On a more interesting topic, ugh why is Voice of Resurgence A: a mythic and B: expensive even by mythic standards? (rhetorical question)

Like, it's GW's only good answer to control and board wipes (Rootborn Defenses is okay but why not play RD AND Voice?) but of course it creates a dichotomy of 'you have money therefore you win FNM' and 'you do not therefore you lose FNM'. :saddowns:

It's a mythic in a small set, and it's just about the only good card in that set. (Aetherling is also pretty good, but between only being a rare, and only being a 2-of, and only in Standard, there's enough supply to meet demand). So it carries the majority of the value from opening that set.

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

Binary killing machines, turning 1 into 0 since 0011000100111001 0011011100110110
I wouldn't be surprised if it was also partially a holdover from when it was an $80 card.

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks

Dungeon Ecology posted:

I love Prognostic Sphinx because it's deceptively good. No one really freaks about a 3/5 flyer and the ability to deep-fix your draws is really underestimated. I don't believe it will last too long though. It took people a while to catch up with Nightveil Specter...
I can't speak for MODO, but at $0.25 apiece there's no reason not to buy like 8 Prognostic Sphinxes right now in paper just on the off chance that it's a thing after rotation.

bhsman
Feb 10, 2008

by exmarx
Because they thought the effect was too powerful for a rare and now we have Emmara Tandris. :downs:

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Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks
Oh how I wish Emmara was a 2WG 3/4 or something instead of a 5WG 5/7.

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