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Senerio posted:
Where are your Chaos Emperor Dragons and Makyuras?
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I have a question for the people of this thread. I've been watching Vanguard, at first because I was interested in the card game but didn't understands the rules much and I had read that the anime was faithful to the card game (unlike, say, Yu-Gi-Oh!). Then I stuck with it because I found it actually fun in its simplicity, psychic powers aside. Then episode 64 happened, and it was pretty lovely but overall I liked the resolution to the Aichi/Ren fight, all fine, the openings are still awesome and that's what matters and whatnot. Now, I've read that Asia Circuit is...not good. For anyone that watches Vanguard (or watched or whatever), should I continue? Or do I just leave here? What should I picture in my mind?
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Mar 19, 2014 21:36
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Season 2 is not as good as season 1, but still enjoyable. The show continues to do a great job explaining the new mechanics as they come up and showcasing the various clans. Season 3 is an improvement over season 2, in my opinion.
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Mar 20, 2014 00:37
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Blaze Dragon posted:(unlike, say, Yu-Gi-Oh!). That's only true for the very first season of the first show. 
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Mar 20, 2014 00:48
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Season 2 hits a pretty rough patch when they do a bit with variant rules, like "rearguards drive check too" or "you don't get to pick where your attacks go," but once they do the second set of tag battles, the variant rules never return, and good riddance to them.
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Mar 20, 2014 01:20
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Xoidanor posted:That's only true for the very first season of the first show. What I meant was that cards have a totally different effect in the anime than they do in real life at times (if they're ever released in real life, that is), making the game look grossly unbalanced with incredibly overpowered cards coming left and right. My point definitely did come out as "YGO anime totally ignores every rule" in my last post though, so I'm sorry for that, totally my fault. MechaCrash posted:Season 2 hits a pretty rough patch when they do a bit with variant rules, like "rearguards drive check too" or "you don't get to pick where your attacks go," but once they do the second set of tag battles, the variant rules never return, and good riddance to them. Who the hell thought this was a good idea?! Really, I see some of the things added later (Limit Break, for instance) and they sound interesting, but this is just stupid. I'm glad you told me that's not continuing forever though, because holy poo poo that sounds stupid. Well, considering what people have said, I guess I'll continue. I can tank bad parts anyways, I mean, I watched pre-Barians Zexal.
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Mar 20, 2014 02:07
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Blaze Dragon posted:I can tank bad parts anyways, I mean, I watched pre-Barians Zexal.  Vector is easily the best villain any YGO spinoff has had so far.
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Mar 20, 2014 03:18
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I think you mean Alexander the Great, sorry.
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Mar 20, 2014 03:26
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Blaze Dragon posted:What I meant was that cards have a totally different effect in the anime than they do in real life at times (if they're ever released in real life, that is), making the game look grossly unbalanced with incredibly overpowered cards coming left and right. My point definitely did come out as "YGO anime totally ignores every rule" in my last post though, so I'm sorry for that, totally my fault. Later this month one of the Legendary Dragons (with its respective Knight) will be released along another bunch of previously anime only-cards  And since Zexal Konami has been releasing pretty much every single card showed on the anime, even if that means things like this fuckers:  Number 39: Beyond the Hope Light Warrior / Xyz / Effect RK6 3000/2500 2 Level 6 monsters (This card is treated as a “Utopia” card.) When this card is Xyz Summoned: Change the ATK of all monsters your opponent currently controls to 0. Once per turn, during either player’s turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card, then target 1 Xyz Monster you control, also target 1 “Utopia” monster in your Graveyard; banish the first target, and if you do, Special Summon the second target from your Graveyard. Then, you gain 1250 Life Points. CXyz Barian Light Warrior / Xyz / Effect RK7 0/0 3 or more Level 7 monsters You can also Xyz Summon this card by using any number of “Number C” Xyz Monsters you control, whose number is between 101 and 107, as the Xyz Material, (Xyz Materials attached to those monsters also become Xyz Materials on this card.) This card gains 1000 ATK for each Xyz Material attached to it. You can target 1 “Number” monster in your Graveyard; until your opponent’s End Phase, this card’s name becomes that monster’s, and it gains that monster’s original effect. You can only use this effect of “CXyz Barian” once per turn. The banlist has also been released: Forbidden: Morphing Jar (Was Limited) Morphing Jar #2 (Was Unlimited) Limited: Coach Soldier Wolfbark (Was Unlimited) Mermail Abyssgunde (Was Unlimited) Reklndling (Was Unlimited) Infernity Barrier (Was Unlimited) Semi-Limited: Necroface (Was Limited) Hieratic Seal of Convocation (Was Unlimited) No longer limited: Magical Stone Excavation (Was Semi-Limited) Primal Seed (Was Limited) Weird choices 
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Mar 20, 2014 03:46
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Infernity Barrier is Limited? I'm totally down with that.
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Mar 20, 2014 04:44
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WELP infinite lifepoint loops for everyone, Primal Seed's at more than 2 and Envoy of the Beginning exists. I guess Morphing Jar had to die because it was the win card for Jackpot 7, which seemed like the most annoying and masturbatory deck in a game whose entire history since 2006 has been nothing but annoying masturbatory decks, and MJ#2 had to go because it was wearing that crown for a long time and they didn't want to look hypocritical. There was never any reason for Magical Stone Excavation to be on any list when it was carrying around that 2 discard cost.
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Mar 20, 2014 06:55
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Finally my 1000000000 copies of Sparks are useful again!
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Mar 20, 2014 07:21
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:The banlist has also been released: Stratos is still banned. 
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Mar 20, 2014 07:57
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Xoidanor posted:Stratos is still banned. It's the one E-HEro card with no terrible drawbacks, of course it's banned. When/why was it banned in the first place? I stopped playing years ago.
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Mar 20, 2014 10:58
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Stratos was banned so Malicious could come back...who hasn't had any effect on the game at all. Hopefully we'll get him back when the Structure deck gets released.
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Mar 20, 2014 13:40
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Dexie posted:Hopefully we'll get him back when the Structure deck gets released. There's a hero structure deck coming? 
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Mar 20, 2014 15:50
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Xoidanor posted:There's a hero structure deck coming? http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Structure_Deck:_HERO's_Strike EDIT: It's not on the wikia, but the one confirmed card for the deck is called 'Master of HERO', and it's a new card. Maybe it'll be some sort of Stratos replacement?
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Mar 20, 2014 16:28
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Xoidanor posted:There's a hero structure deck coming? And a Lightsworn one 
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Mar 20, 2014 16:30
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:And a Lightsworn one Eagerly anticipating Judgment Dragon getting reprinted and then banned in typical Konami fashion.
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Mar 20, 2014 18:01
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Xoidanor posted:Eagerly anticipating Judgment Dragon getting reprinted and then banned in typical Konami fashion. I hope Judgment Dragon gets hit. With the rest of the new support that Lightsworn have gotten, that thing doesn't need to be at 3.
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Mar 20, 2014 18:34
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I'm almost sure than the LS estructure will be (almost) the same than the one released and Japan earlier this year, and that have support like this: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Minerva,_Lightsworn_Maiden http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Michael,_the_Arch-Lightsworn
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Mar 20, 2014 18:41
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It's confirmed to be getting all of their new stuff except for Felice (since she was a V-Jump exclusive), plus a TCG-exclusive Spell card. http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Realm_of_Light_Structure_Deck
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Mar 20, 2014 18:45
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Dexie posted:It's confirmed to be getting all of their new stuff except for Felice (since she was a V-Jump exclusive), plus a TCG-exclusive Spell card. I wonder if we will see a surge of LS decks on the tables as it happened with the keepers when Marik's deck was released.
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Mar 20, 2014 18:52
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As soon as the new cards got added to Dueling Network, Lightsworn saw a pretty huge resurgence in popularity. Granted, it's mainly because of how stupid powerful Raiden and Felice are together, so it might not happen in the real world until the TCG actually gets Felice. It'll happen though. The deck is just too strong for it not to happen.
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Mar 20, 2014 19:09
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Dexie posted:As soon as the new cards got added to Dueling Network, Lightsworn saw a pretty huge resurgence in popularity. Granted, it's mainly because of how stupid powerful Raiden and Felice are together, so it might not happen in the real world until the TCG actually gets Felice. It'll happen though. The deck is just too strong for it not to happen. Tell me about it, for all the poo poo the Dragon Rulers stirred, I still loathe more when you got the field nuked by a JD and then you got another two on the field. That's a really bad designed card 
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Mar 20, 2014 19:14
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Tell me about it, for all the poo poo the Dragon Rulers stirred, I still loathe more when you got the field nuked by a JD and then you got another two on the field. If it was once per turn, or if JD's summoning requirements weren't so stupid easy, it wouldn't be so bad. But as it is now? It's honestly my least favorite card in the game. I groan every time I see one hit the field.
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Mar 20, 2014 19:56
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Rudoku posted:It's the one E-HEro card with no terrible drawbacks, of course it's banned. When/why was it banned in the first place? I stopped playing years ago. E-Hero Prisma has absolutely no drawbacks, and can still do what you want it to do even when it's effect is negated. Having the effect you want as a cost is quite silly. Now, if only I could make Daigusto Emeral Dark magician turbo better
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Mar 22, 2014 05:49
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So, I finished Link Joker, after going through Asia Circuit (definitely the lowest point of the series, although there was one moment in it I thought was amazing, Aichi summoning Blaster Blade Spirit) with the promise that it'd get better. Holy poo poo was that the understatement of the year. Link Joker was amazing. I loved the use of Reverse to see the backstories and bonds of characters, I loved seeing Kourin as a main and how much more fleshed out she was, I loved Naoki, an awesome addition to the cast, and even more than everything else, I absolutely loved that last fight. It was perfect for me, I was scared of how it'd go, but overall I loved it. It was the perfect way of showing Aichi and Kai's growth, of showing everything that had happened to them, how it all started from a single card, and how Kai's way of seeing life was absolutely mistaken, but he was not lost forever. This is probably the first time in my life I feel like this, but I'm actually sad the series continues from this point. That ending was absolutely perfect, not just for Link Joker, but for the entire series. It showed the characters at their zenith, and Kai taking over the narration at the end, and showing exactly how his thoughts changed thanks to Aichi, was amazing. As weird as it is to say considering my appreciation for Link Joker and Vanguard as a whole, I'm glad I didn't give Vanguard a chance until now. Going through the entire series at once made everything feel fresh, so the last episode hit even harder because I could remember everything it referenced. I swear, if I didn't live in a horrible third world country (and it wasn't 12 AM), I'd be running out of my house to buy a starter deck now. The series won me over, and the card game actually looks fun as hell. I haven't played a card game in years (fell off YGO due to no one of my friends playing it anymore, and the rules became too weird for me with Synchros, despite following the anime), but I think I could give this one a try. Or at the very least, I sure would love my own Blaster Blade card. It says a lot about the series that I actually grew fond of a card, not even a character, due to the sheer symbolism the series piled on it. I thank everyone who answered my previous question of whether to continue or not, because I actually found another anime I'm enjoying. I'm definitely sticking for Legion Mate, but not starting today. Tomorrow, though, definitely (though as far as I see there's only two episodes out anyways). Blaze Dragon fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Mar 26, 2014 |
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Mar 26, 2014 04:08
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Blaze Dragon posted:This is probably the first time in my life I feel like this, but I'm actually sad the series continues from this point. Exactly how anyone with taste felt about the first half of Yugioh 5D's. Especially when they saw the second half.
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Mar 26, 2014 13:30
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Can't hate it ending on cardgames on motorcycles IN SPACE no matter how dumb it was. 
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Mar 26, 2014 15:40
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Best part of the second half of 5Ds is the cowboy town with dueldisk-guns and the music by Masaaki Endoh, who is a god of butt rock. Also more of the announcer and Jack.
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Mar 26, 2014 15:59
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Silento posted:Best part of the second half of 5Ds is the cowboy town with dueldisk-guns and the music by Masaaki Endoh, who is a god of butt rock. Also more of the announcer and Jack. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdhggQPTFtc BELIEVE IN NEEEEXUUUS~~
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Mar 26, 2014 16:06
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Dabir posted:Exactly how anyone with taste felt about the first half of Yugioh 5D's. Especially when they saw the second half. "Are you a fan of Aki? Well, uh, gently caress you."
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Mar 26, 2014 17:55
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Is it that part of the thread cycle again? Because Crow was a super boring character. 
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Mar 26, 2014 17:59
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And yet, 5D's final battle was pretty great. Shame than the epilogue screwed the story so much though. Anyone here catched Zexal's ending?
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Mar 26, 2014 18:00
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I wish 5D's had gone like it was intended, with Crow not becoming a main character and Aki (probably) having a bigger role, but sigh, executive meddling! Though I definitely agree the final battle was awesome. SSJ Yusei in space summoning a dragon all on the tune of the last opening was insane. I choose to forget Z-ONE's bullshit though, in my headcanon he will always be future Yusei because that's a lot less anticlimactic than the real thing. Most I know about Zexal's ending is from the YGO wiki, since I can't understand Japanese so I just wait for the subs (as slow as they are, sigh), and those are only on the Don Thousand fight. Man I wish they were faster...
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Mar 26, 2014 18:04
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:And yet, 5D's final battle was pretty great. Shame than the epilogue screwed the story so much though. The final battle pissed me off because Yusei won by pulling out all his classic monsters, for the first combo of the series... and a new bullshit monster to take up a space and with the effect of making the numbers be high enough for Yusei to win. ZeXal leaned more towards generic shonen in its ending, but it was still rather nice and enjoyable, which for me makes it the best yugioh spinoff ending since hobo judai abandoning his friends and everyone leaving everyone else in 5D's were kinda lame. Though the duel itself was standard ZeXal-era Hikokubo, but seeing Yuma embrace his jesus powers was still fun.
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Mar 26, 2014 22:49
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I know that it's not as good as either season around it, but I really liked the Asia Circuit final battle. I liked the visual of Leon slowly getting more and more corrupted by Void, to the point where he can't use his arm anymore. (I think. I haven't seen that episode in months)
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Mar 26, 2014 23:29
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Senerio posted:I know that it's not as good as either season around it, but I really liked the Asia Circuit final battle. I liked the visual of Leon slowly getting more and more corrupted by Void, to the point where he can't use his arm anymore. (I think. I haven't seen that episode in months) That's correct, Void does take over his arm. And I enjoyed the final battle too, especially the part where Aichi calls Blaster Blade Spirit (nearly made me cry, that was one strong scene). The problem is that it doesn't really make up for how meh the entire arc is. It also really annoyed me how the arc treated PSYqualia, only the final battle was really good about it (seeing Aichi remember he wasn't scared of it anymore was really neat). That said, it did bring goofy Ren and goofy Ren is amusing. Also Aichi's deck just wasn't as cool as his previous one. Ezel just isn't that cool of an unit, especially in comparison to the other trump cards Aichi has used, like Gancelot (all the Gancelots), Garmore (who gets heavily ignored that season despite appearing in the opening, what the hell?) and Mecha-Alfred (Liberator, Monarch Sanctuary Alfred made me laugh so hard, why is he suddenly a mecha with a shoulder cannon? Did Aichi switch to Dimension Police and I didn't notice?). It also kind of annoyed me how stupid Leon was. Sure dude, make a pact with the very same monster that sealed Aqua Force to get said Aqua Force back, even though you might be sacrificing not only three Clans but two entire worlds for it. Void will follow that pact, sure, definitely. Leon actually got a lot better for me in Link Joker, he works better as a hero than he did as a villain.
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So DevPro just released their latest version which includes pendulum summoning, the new OCG rules and the new cards. I haven't been able to test it myself due to the patcher bugging out but I found the following video on their facebook page of a game where pendulum summoning is used. It's simply the pendulum staples put into a scrap deck. The result is well... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY_4joWhWKY
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