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What if they scrapped the whole "Laurel needs to be Black Canary" and turned her into Manhunter instead? I would be okay with that. Sigh, if only.
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zoux posted:It would be a huge stretch but also you don't go from party boy to ultimate badass in five years no matter what. What? Five years is plenty of time, especially considering the heavy training he did. Navy Seal training is 1.5 years from boot to team and another year before deployment. So basically Ollie had twice as long to train and in even harder conditions than a member of the most elite force in the world.* *ymmv
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Mar 19, 2014 21:17
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Who don't get any better martial arts training than you can get from weekly classes at the Y.
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Mar 19, 2014 21:18
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Burning_Monk posted:What? Five years is plenty of time, especially considering the heavy training he did. Navy Seal training is 1.5 years from boot to team and another year before deployment. So basically Ollie had twice as long to train and in even harder conditions than a member of the most elite force in the world.* Ok let's both train with a bow for five years and then we'll show down IRL.
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Mar 19, 2014 21:27
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zoux posted:Ok let's both train with a bow for five years and then we'll show down IRL. Okay but only if we do it William Tell style. Bring your own apple. 
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Mar 19, 2014 21:29
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I cannot wait for this episode. Ten bucks says Sean Maher's character dies tonight.
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Mar 19, 2014 21:31
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bunnyofdoom posted:I cannot wait for this episode. Ten bucks says Sean Maher's character dies tonight. He has to die at some point so his mind can move to his new body composed of jagged metal shards.
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Mar 19, 2014 21:35
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Krad posted:What if they scrapped the whole "Laurel needs to be Black Canary" and turned her into Manhunter instead? I would be okay with that. That would be awesome.
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Mar 19, 2014 21:36
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It is really funny though how every single fan in the world is like, please, please don't kill Sarah and turn Laurel into Black Canary, and yet they have said nothing about anything either way. It's like this loving sword of Damocles over the whole series and it makes me legit worried for the future of the show.
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Mar 19, 2014 21:38
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Krad posted:What if they scrapped the whole "Laurel needs to be Black Canary" and turned her into Manhunter instead? I would be okay with that. I would be totally down with that. It would make a ton of sense for Laurel's character. Like, that's not just a way to save Sara as Black Canary, that's a legit good idea. zoux posted:It would be a huge stretch but also you don't go from party boy to ultimate badass in five years no matter what. Five years getting trained by special forces and elite martial artists and in actual combat and fighting for his life the whole time. He didn't just hit up Planet Fitness once a week.
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Mar 19, 2014 22:22
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Laurel kicked people's asses all the time in S1, I don't think it's surprising or out of the realm of possibility she could do it again.
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Mar 19, 2014 22:30
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Aphrodite posted:Who don't get any better martial arts training than you can get from weekly classes at the Y. Bronze Tiger Schulmann
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boom boom boom posted:Five years getting trained by special forces and elite martial artists and in actual combat and fighting for his life the whole time. He didn't just hit up Planet Fitness once a week. 4 max. He didn't do poo poo the first year.
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Mar 19, 2014 22:40
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Aphrodite posted:4 max. He didn't do poo poo the first year. Yao Fe tried to teach him to shoot and Shado had him doing the "slap the water" stuff in Season 1. By the end he was beating dude's up and he shot Fryers in the neck.
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Mar 19, 2014 22:41
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Rhyno posted:Yao Fe tried to teach him to shoot and Shado had him doing the "slap the water" stuff in Season 1. By the end he was beating dude's up and he shot Fryers in the neck. Yeah but we're talking about the martial arts stuff. He still can't really fight well in the island flashbacks.
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Mar 19, 2014 22:43
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Aphrodite posted:Yeah but we're talking about the martial arts stuff. Well he obviously learns all that in the Russian mafia.
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Mar 19, 2014 22:44
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Aphrodite posted:Yeah but we're talking about the martial arts stuff. He made a marked improvement from the start of S1's Island flashbacks to the end, then again from the start of S2 to where we are now. He's not exactly a superhero yet, but he's making clear, visible progress toward that end-point.
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Mar 19, 2014 22:49
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Aphrodite posted:4 max. He didn't do poo poo the first year. Except for all the training he got from Slade and Shado.
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Mar 19, 2014 22:57
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boom boom boom posted:Except for all the training he got from Slade and Shado. don't ruin his misconceptions. 
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Mar 19, 2014 23:20
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Training doesn't count unless it's set to a musical montage.
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Mar 19, 2014 23:24
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Krad posted:What if they scrapped the whole "Laurel needs to be Black Canary" and turned her into Manhunter instead? I would be okay with that. They've already got Kate Spencer on the show though! (somewhere)
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Mar 19, 2014 23:39
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Mike Danger posted:They've already got Kate Spencer on the show though! They'll bring her back at the same time they make Laurel Manhunter. Laurel as Manhunter will turn out to be so great we'll all start to dread the time when they kill her off, but instead, responding to fan pressure, They'll keep Laurel as Manhunter and Kate Spencer will become Chase.
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Mar 19, 2014 23:56
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boom boom boom posted:Except for all the training he got from Slade and Shado. It's not an RPG. It doesn't work off an experience system. He hasn't learned the way he fights now in the present from Slade or Shado. The point the guy was making was just that 5 years is an unrealistic, comic book amount of time to train to become a superhero, and Ollie doesn't even have 5 years worth. It's dumb to want to apply the same rules to the other characters as you ignore for Ollie. It's a comic book show. A couple episodes back some chemicals and lightning gave a guy super speed. People are going to train fast.
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Mar 19, 2014 23:59
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Aphrodite posted:It's not an RPG. It doesn't work off an experience system. He hasn't learned the way he fights now in the present from Slade or Shado. Except for the fact that he absolutely learned the way he fights now from both of them. Slade taught him basic hand to hand (and, importantly, the training method he uses with Diggle). Shado taught him archery, which he then expanded into the previous episode's high-speed/combat archery. There's a clear, visible progression toward where he is today. The difference is there are still three and a half years before he gets back to Starling, so there's still a lot of time to grow.
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Aphrodite posted:It's not an RPG. It doesn't work off an experience system. He hasn't learned the way he fights now in the present from Slade or Shado. IRL we call the "RPG experience system", "practice"... and it's how people learn to do things and more you do it the better you become. quote:The point the guy was making was just that 5 years is an unrealistic, comic book amount of time to train to become a superhero, and Ollie doesn't even have 5 years worth. It's dumb to want to apply the same rules to the other characters as you ignore for Ollie. It's a comic book show. A couple episodes back some chemicals and lightning gave a guy super speed. People are going to train fast. And as pointed out by someone (oh it was me!) 5 years is plenty of time to learn how to be a "badass". If special force units can be trained in a couple years, 5 (or even 4) is long enough for someone in a survival situation to learn how to fight. How long do you think it takes for someone to be a competent fighter?
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Mar 20, 2014 00:11
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The scene with him missing the bonfire was to show he was close after his Slade/Shado training but not full Arrow.
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Mar 20, 2014 01:04
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Ha, of course Dig is going to the Ostrander hotel for Suicide Squad time. Edit: I was wondering about the Ben Browder guest star credit.
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Mar 20, 2014 01:06
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Aw yeah. FIELD TRIP!
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Mar 20, 2014 01:11
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Welcome to the suicide squad!
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Welcome to the Suicide Squad.  The smug smilie needs a Deadshot make-over.
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Oh poo poo it IS Harley!!
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... I'm a trained therapist!
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Welp, holy poo poo, that's Harley alright..
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Mar 20, 2014 01:15
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Yeah, uh, I think that's Harley. Like, 90% sure.
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Well that's some confirmation.
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HitTheTargets posted:Yeah, uh, I think that's Harley. Like, 90% sure. I've watched enough DCAU for it to be 100%.
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Her code name is Harbinger!
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Aphrodite posted:Well that's some confirmation. I wonder if we'll get to see more of a straight-on shot, or if it'll be limited to that little tease of the hair. I'm totally fine either way. Nice little cameo. Edit: Also, welp. Whoever guessed Shrapnel was the expendable one.. OmniBeer fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Mar 20, 2014 |
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