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Rarity posted:Totally this. I was bummed for about 5 minutes before I realised he would totally have been able to figure a way out of that. Which is good, because I was just starting to like his character. You guys don't think maybe they just weren't going to show a dude's head exploding? They showed him reacting to the signal, then you hear him blow up. I'm not putting much stock in the guy that had three lines coming back from that.
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I was disappointed in this episode. The drone sequence was the dumbest loving thing in the world. Idiotic plan and really poor execution, from the plan of using Deadshot as a GPS when they already knew where the drat house was, to the GPS chip being so shallow in the neck that Lyla could easily remove it in 20 seconds, to the drone taking an hour and half to make it from the house to the van. Just really poorly done. Ollie's CW obligated drama plot wasn't much better either. His grand plan was to push away the only other true badass (maybe even more of a badass than him) by not talking to her and not having sex with her when she was on the loving island with Slade and in his mind, somewhat responsible for the death of Shado. Did he honestly believe that pushing Sara away (by pushing, I mean not having sex but still have her working at his loving club) is going to stop Slade from going after her? I mean, so stupid. Glad she called him out on it and it won't be a multiple episode arc of drama. Too bad. Loads of potential there and I see people all over the internet are having a nerdgasm for Harley. The one thing I actually did like was the anti-heroness to Deadshot and the fact that he lived since I like his character. Why they would want to kill off the world's best sniper is beyond me.
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Didn't really like this ep other than the Harley cameo, Team Arrow is apparently on lock down because of Slade but then Diggle just up and goes over to without saying anything to anyone. More chat about Arrow choosing to let Shado die, a hilariously bad drone and then the Deadshot forgetting about his daughter. I know it'll come good for the season final but these last two eps have been the worst of the season so far, all it would have taken was a few changes in dialogue to bring it up to snuff but from what I understand Arrow edits pretty late in the game for time? Not saying it was horrible or anything, just kind of meh. The Deadshot chat was the most annoying because they already set up an easy out with how he's been funneling all his money to Zoe, all Diggle had to say was something about that instead of reminding him he had a daughter(I'm assuming she is). Edit: raditts posted:You guys don't think maybe they just weren't going to show a dude's head exploding? They showed him reacting to the signal, then you hear him blow up. I'm not putting much stock in the guy that had three lines coming back from that. Woden fucked around with this message at 15:10 on Mar 20, 2014 |
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Mar 20, 2014 15:07
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Yeah that wasn't a great episode - mainly as the quality is usually so high. The whole drone thing was just incredibly dumb - 1 missile would take out the whole house and the bunker with foot thick concrete walls and incinerate the toxin that 0.5ml of can wipe out city blocks - no. Then they show it exploding with as much force as a standard movie grenade. I can only imagine it was budget reasons or something, but they really missed the ball here. Ollies plan to get Sarah out of the way was also dumb. I stop sleeping with her, Slade stops going after her. What was his plan to let Slade know? Update his Facebook page to not in a realtionship or something? Diggles plan to protect Felicity. Sit in the car out front. I guess she doesn't have a back door? I'm going to write this one off as a blip
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Mar 20, 2014 15:42
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Shakugan posted:This would be so unbelievably awesome I can't even comprehend it. That would be loving terrible. Don't get me wrong I love Diggle, but John Stewart is one the best, most complicated, most interesting comic book characters I've ever read, and it's peen painful to see writers simplify him because they don't know how to write a character like that, and turning him into Diggle would be a crime.
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Mar 20, 2014 16:35
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That one is actually JLU's fault.
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Mar 20, 2014 16:36
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Mar 20, 2014 16:40
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Yeah, that was JLU.
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OK yeah that was definitely Harley. The only question is whether it was just a fun fanservice cameo or if there are plans for her in the future... 
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Aphrodite posted:Yeah, that was JLU. I thought the ex-marine thing worked in JLU, especially in that episode where he ends up in WWII and he fits right in with Easy Company.
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Mar 20, 2014 18:24
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Basebf555 posted:I thought the ex-marine thing worked in JLU, especially in that episode where he ends up in WWII and he fits right in with Easy Company. As The Streak told him he was a credit to his people.
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Mar 20, 2014 18:26
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Never really cared for John Stewart in JLU, he's easily the least imaginative Green Lantern ever.
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Mar 20, 2014 18:34
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Guggenheim confirms than it was Harley but also than was a mere easter egg for the fans: http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=51599 He doesn't rule to have her coming back down the line though.
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Mar 20, 2014 18:45
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Burning_Monk posted:Never really cared for John Stewart in JLU, he's easily the least imaginative Green Lantern ever. Least imginative then Hal "giant fist" Jordon?
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Mar 20, 2014 18:52
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Guggenheim confirms than it was Harley but also than was a mere easter egg for the fans: As soon as she shows up on Gotham we can rule that out.
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Mar 20, 2014 18:55
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bobkatt013 posted:Least imginative then Hal "giant fist" Jordon? Yep, Stewart wouldn't even use a fist. Need to hit something... long Green Beam. Need to shoot something, short Green Beams. Need to hold someone, Green Ball. It's just so bland.
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Rhyno posted:As soon as she shows up on Gotham we can rule that out. Obviously as the therapist that counsels Bruce right after his parents die. Wow. Driving this prequel into the ground is easy. Why don't they pay me to do it?
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Mar 20, 2014 19:27
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Burning_Monk posted:Yep, Stewart wouldn't even use a fist. Need to hit something... long Green Beam. Need to shoot something, short Green Beams. Need to hold someone, Green Ball. It's just so bland. That was only really a problem in the first season, which they fixed after hearing feedback.
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Mar 20, 2014 19:30
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Just finished watching and I'm going to go back and catch up with the thread now but I wanted to note that I though that was the best loving episode of the season so far. That is all.
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Mar 20, 2014 19:31
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greatn posted:That was only really a problem in the first season, which they fixed after hearing feedback. I watched the whole thing, he really doesn't expand his repertoire.
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Mar 20, 2014 19:52
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Accretionist posted:World's slowest, low-flying-est drone firing the world's slowest combination bottle rocket-pipe bomb. The drone not being very fast was probably the closest thing to reality that entire sequence managed to peg.
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Mar 20, 2014 19:56
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Hal Jordan appears in JLU for about 3 seconds and he's 100 times more interesting in that time than Jon.
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Mar 20, 2014 19:59
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Aphrodite posted:Hal Jordan appears in JLU for about 3 seconds and he's 100 times more interesting in that time than Jon. Eh, I think what you're describing was just a general problem with Justice League for basically the entire first two seasons, and then even like half of the first season of JLU. Too many of the characters were just bland, Superman, Wonderwoman, and GL included. By the time the Cadmus storyline gets going you have The Question, Huntress and a bunch of other more interesting characters that really kinda overshadow the founding members. The only original JL member that stays interesting is of course Batman, but he comes and goes and he's got the huge continuity already build up from his own animated series. Edit: And Flash of course, how could I forget Flash. He owns every scene he's in.
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I liked a lot of this episode. Deadshot's character development was nice, the Harley cameo was great and the final scene - seeing Amanda Waller looking terrifed - was amazing. I even didn't really hate Laurel in this episode, which was new. I'm a little sad there wasn't more Roy and/or Bronze Tiger, as I think they're both pretty awesome. I'm also disappointed that they appear to have killed of Shrapnel, but I'm hopeful that he'll come back. I really like his characterization. Slade running around Starling making Oliver paranoid is fantastic. I hope we get another episode of that before the actual confrontation. The whole nerve gas/terrorist/strike drone plot was, as many of you have said, pretty goofy and not very well plotted. I'm kind of okay with that. This was an introduction to the Suicide Squad and more about the characters interacting than the actual mission. I hope we'll see more of Deadshot and Bronze Tiger next season.
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Mar 20, 2014 20:45
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RIP Laurel's unbroken streak of crying in every episode she's been in to this point.
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Basebf555 posted:Eh, I think what you're describing was just a general problem with Justice League for basically the entire first two seasons, and then even like half of the first season of JLU. Too many of the characters were just bland, Superman, Wonderwoman, and GL included. By the time the Cadmus storyline gets going you have The Question, Huntress and a bunch of other more interesting characters that really kinda overshadow the founding members. The only original JL member that stays interesting is of course Batman, but he comes and goes and he's got the huge continuity already build up from his own animated series. JLU Flash is the best 
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Zythrst posted:JLU Flash is the best HE's not going to wash his hands. Cause he's evil.
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Mar 20, 2014 21:00
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Arrow was up .1 over last new episode but down .1 from last week's rerun 
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It was about the moment the drone didn't blow up the house that my suspension of disbelief in the mission snapped. It's been tread over plenty, but yeah, that van shouldn't exist anymore. Heck, didn't they say that nerve gas was extremely potent? What about the surrounding neighborhood? I know Markovia is a pretty lovely place in the DCU and all, but I guess I'm underestimating Waller's wanton disregard for human life. Everything else worked just fine until the house didn't go up in a big kaboom. I'm also a bit disappointed that Oliver didn't say something terribly cheesy, like "It's good to have you back," to Laurel. Her little soap opera traffic coordination worked pretty well. It didn't get in the way of anything, and flavored the plain clothes scenes nicely. And I had a little chuckle at "Cheating, shipwreck, drowning, not drowning, you're back she's back thing."
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Mar 20, 2014 21:12
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Just blowing up nerve gas doesn't aerosolize it, you have to have a special delivery mechanism. I mean, it's not great, but it's not going to WMD half of Markovia.
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Mar 20, 2014 21:13
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zoux posted:Arrow was up .1 over last new episode but down .1 from last week's rerun Does that mean that it out performed the original of last week, but then more people watched yesterdays re-airing of last weeks episode than this weeks new episode?
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Mar 20, 2014 21:29
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Fetus Tree posted:Does that mean that it out performed the original of last week, but then more people watched yesterdays re-airing of last weeks episode than this weeks new episode? No, the new episode that was on two weeks ago got a .7. The episode that was a re-run that aired last Wednesday got a .9. Last night's ep got a .8.
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Mar 20, 2014 21:31
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Wow, those are pretty bad ratings even for the CW. What gives?
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Mar 20, 2014 21:47
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Those are demo numbers, not millions.
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Shakugan posted:Wow, those are pretty bad ratings even for the CW. What gives? Not really, anything around a 1.0 is pretty good for the CW. Supernatural is probably their most popular show and it pulled a .9 on Tuesday. The soon to be cancelled Carrie Diaries drew a .3. Nikita hung around for years at .3/.4. Arrow's all time high is only like a 1.2 I think. zoux fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Mar 20, 2014 |
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Yeah, those are decent-ish for CW. Keep in mind that the CW only airs a couple hours of original programming all day long. The lead-in for episodes of Arrow are Two and a Half Men re-runs (at least for me, your mileage may vary).
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Mar 20, 2014 21:56
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Basically, Arrow's fine unless it starts getting beaten by, like, Whose Line...
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I'm almost caught up [just finished episode 13], but holy poo poo, what's with everybody being completely hostile to people who were stranded on an island for five years? "Oh what, you were surviving on an island? You cheated on my boyfriend the entire time there, bitch." *throws glass*
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Mar 21, 2014 01:56
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Honestly despite this episode being the most anticipated of the season it felt like the weakest of the season, mainly because of the 3rd act. Historically however, the show tends to rebound from weak writing amazingly well.
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