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Nexal posted:Ozzy. Brandon.
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Wasn't it One World, not South Pacific?
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Mar 21, 2014 17:34
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Yes, but the comedy options are pretty fabulous. This proves that my brain has completely erased One World from its memory banks in self-preservation.
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Mar 21, 2014 18:23
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I haven't watched any Survivor since season 2, but I decided to watch this season on my cable's on demand yesterday. So glad I did, because J'tia.  I want to go back and watch the goon recommended seasons. I signed up for Hulu for it, but it only has season 1 and then 12+. What's that about?
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Mar 21, 2014 18:53
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DaisyDanger posted:I haven't watched any Survivor since season 2, but I decided to watch this season on my cable's on demand yesterday. So glad I did, because J'tia. Yeah Rob Cesternino was plugging Hulu+ as a new sponsor and mentioned they only had season one then 12+. A little weird but you've still got a ton of great ones to choose from. China (season 15) and Tocantins (season 17) are fan favourites and either would be a great place to start. Micronesia (season 16) and Heroes vs Villains (season 20) are two of the best seasons ever but they're both all-stars seasons and benefit a lot from knowing the players first. If you wanted to jump ahead to the more modern seasons watching 25-27 wouldn't be a bad idea as the last several seasons have all been excellent. The big thing you want to avoid is the gap of seasons 21-24 as those are many of the worst seasons the show has ever had. If I were cobbling together a list for a friend I'd probably suggest something like China (15), Tocantins (17), Cook Islands (13), Micronesia (16), Samoa (19), Heroes vs Villains (20), 25-27 in order then go back and pick off the remaining pre-season 21 stuff in whatever order you like.
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Mar 21, 2014 19:22
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Also you'll probably want to skip this thread mostly (after you get some recommendations), just because about once a week there is a slapfight over the most/least deserving winners.
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Mar 21, 2014 19:26
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BGrifter posted:Of course. I've just been hearing a lot of "worst challenge tribe ever" and the like, I think that's excessive. They're a pretty average tribe with one outlier. I guess I'd have to rewatch some of the offending tribes but I think if you look at most of the worst challenge tribes you'll find a majority of people who are competent or have some skills as the non-J'tia Brains do. But what usually kills those tribes is the lack of teamwork or egos or just the negative momentum. As much as people like to blame J'tia for all the loses because she did often play a kep role in them there's other things you can point to with all of them, including voting off their two strongest men first. J'tia was a liability who lost at least one challenge single handedly but the bigger problem is that Brains were playing the game from the second David picked Garrett as the odd man out and they never came together as a tribe until they had no other choice. And I think in the end the reason Brains will look bad in Survivor history is because the three tribe format gave them second chances they failed on too.
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Mar 21, 2014 23:17
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BGrifter posted:Yeah Rob Cesternino was plugging Hulu+ as a new sponsor and mentioned they only had season one then 12+. A little weird but you've still got a ton of great ones to choose from. Awesome, thank you! I started rewatching season 1 last night, so I'll probably finish that one, then go from there. I'd really like to watch the ones between 2-11 at some point, so it just sucks that it's not available on Amazon/Netflix/Hulu. I will definitely be checking out the ones your list though! Juanito posted:Also you'll probably want to skip this thread mostly (after you get some recommendations), just because about once a week there is a slapfight over the most/least deserving winners. Haha, yeah I kind of noticed this already as I was skimming through the thread. Fortunately, I had to good sense to skip past posts once I saw a name I knew wasn't from this season. On another note, could anyone tell me what season spawned that gif of the two horrified-looking girls while a guy behind them suddenly gets a poo poo-eating grin? I would like to watch that season at some point just because that gif is so hilarious to me.
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Mar 22, 2014 04:14
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DaisyDanger posted:Awesome, thank you! I started rewatching season 1 last night, so I'll probably finish that one, then go from there. I'd really like to watch the ones between 2-11 at some point, so it just sucks that it's not available on Amazon/Netflix/Hulu. I will definitely be checking out the ones your list though! Could you post the gif? I can see it in my head, but can't place it right now.
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DaisyDanger posted:On another note, could anyone tell me what season spawned that gif of the two horrified-looking girls while a guy behind them suddenly gets a poo poo-eating grin? I would like to watch that season at some point just because that gif is so hilarious to me. Gabon. The season that keeps getting better the more terrible other Survivor seasons you watch! We all hated it when it was on, but look back on it with fond memories now.
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Capsaicin posted:Could you post the gif? I can see it in my head, but can't place it right now.  I was able to find it once GuavaMoment posted what season it's from. Thanks guys!
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Mar 22, 2014 04:24
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That's Gabon. edit: Wow thread moving fast
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Mar 22, 2014 04:24
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It's from Gabon. edit: megabeaten I agree Brains looks extra bad partly because they didn't just lose, they lost to two other tribes. But I would say they are not the worst ever (though they are certainly a weak lineup) because they didn't lose every time. Metropolis fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Mar 22, 2014 |
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Mar 22, 2014 04:26
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Huh. I was thinking of a completely different gif. It was one at Tribal where there were like, 2 girls kinda pissed off and one guy just smiling. I don't think it was the Earl gif.
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Mar 22, 2014 04:28
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GuavaMoment posted:Gabon. The season that keeps getting better the more terrible other Survivor seasons you watch! We all hated it when it was on, but look back on it with fond memories now. I'll just rewatch it in gifs. The actual season has a lot of nasty stuff. The Onion alliance? Racism? Corrinne? Sugar. Don't even get me started on Sugar. Or that there's someone in the end who had about four speaking lines the whole season. The location was neato though.
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Mar 22, 2014 05:14
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Gabon was an ok season, I'd put it right around middle of the pack. I usually leave it out when recommending seasons to newbies as I tend to try and start them with seasons that will build toward either All-Stars, Fans vs Favourites or Heroes vs Villains and you're not really missing much not watching Gabon before HvV.
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Mar 22, 2014 05:22
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Unfortunately you really do have to avoid this thread or any kind of Survivor discussion or commentary if you want to stay spoiler free on old seasons. I did my best when I was binging my way through the show but even if you check out as soon as you see an unfamiliar name you still start to get familiar with those names. Then eventually every time you're starting a season and recognize one or two people's names in the first episode and immediately assume those are the people to watch and one of them is probably the winner. Metropolis posted:I agree Brains looks extra bad partly because they didn't just lose, they lost to two other tribes. But I would say they are not the worst ever (though they are certainly a weak lineup) because they didn't lose every time. In the end all we can really say is they both really sucked.
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Mar 22, 2014 05:55
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Just make sure to avoid reading the OP, especially the section that recommends what seasons to watch. It's full of tons of spoilers as to what happens in the seasons it's recommending as well as future seasons you aren't even reading about. When I started watching Survivor (about 23 seasons had aired at that point) I made the mistake of reading that list and had so many cool moments spoiled. It really should be removed from the OP, I think (the idea of a season recommendation list is a good one, but a list that has comments that amount to "watch this season so you can see person x win" and "this person sucks this season but SPOILER; they return in a future season and DO REALLY WELL hint hint" shouldn't be used to encourage people to watch the show).
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Mar 22, 2014 06:09
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Gabon is great because it has so many ridiculous plot lines that have nothing to do with the actual game of Survivor, but they showcase the players' personalities and are fun and goofy. (Ace's disappearing accent! Charcus! The Kenny Matty bromance! Crystal, everything about her! The weird Sugar/Bob dad thing!) The actual game of Survivor is kind of meh in that season, but the cast more than made up for it.
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Mar 22, 2014 13:17
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Shakugan posted:Just make sure to avoid reading the OP, especially the section that recommends what seasons to watch. It's full of tons of spoilers as to what happens in the seasons it's recommending as well as future seasons you aren't even reading about. When I started watching Survivor (about 23 seasons had aired at that point) I made the mistake of reading that list and had so many cool moments spoiled. It really should be removed from the OP, I think (the idea of a season recommendation list is a good one, but a list that has comments that amount to "watch this season so you can see person x win" and "this person sucks this season but SPOILER; they return in a future season and DO REALLY WELL hint hint" shouldn't be used to encourage people to watch the show).
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Mar 22, 2014 19:51
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Capsaicin posted:Huh. I was thinking of a completely different gif. It was one at Tribal where there were like, 2 girls kinda pissed off and one guy just smiling. I don't think it was the Earl gif. Does anyone have the Earl gif? It's such an amazing scene.
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Survivor is such a gif-able show. The Jeff-Shrug is probably my personal favorite though.
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Mar 23, 2014 06:37
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This scene is forever burned in my mind because seeing those smug mother fuckers taken down by the dude who had never watched the show was so amazing. (I'm sad Edgardo didn't come back for FvF1 because he was actually a pretty cool dude.)
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Mar 23, 2014 07:49
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Cliff seems like a good dude and smart enough player, but I'm all for Tony being in positions of power, just because he's gonna create some fantastic television. Also, was it really that poor of a strategic move? Cliff might have been a good guy to take with to the end, but if he's already locked next to Woo and Lindsay, how useful is he to Tony in that sense? I don't see this Tony/Trish/LJ/Jefra alliance holding up after the merge, however. LJ seems awesome so far and I hope he continues to do well. Reminiscent of Marty the Chessmaster with that lack of an idol play. I feel like he's the most dangerous player in the game. Good for the brains team ending up with some leverage. Best situation for them would probably be to reel in Morgan the free agent. I am wondering whether or not Morgan is getting an unfair shake from the edit in regards to her perceived shadiness. All she's really done is understandably choose the idol clue over rice and stir the pot after immediately being relegated to the minority alliance. Not saying that she's a good player/person, but she might be more trustworthy than appears on the surface. She would also make a great goat at this point. Despite her being totally duped by Tony, I'm really finding myself rooting for Sarah a lot. She doesn't really seem like she's strong on the social side, though. I think the knowledge that Cliff was voted out will influence the way the remaining brains team organizes their strategy. Sarah could stand to benefit from a sign that the brawn tribe is fracturing. My guess is Alexis is the first to go if their bunch is sent to tribal. Great season so far! Vernacular fucked around with this message at 08:16 on Mar 23, 2014 |
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I lost any chance to like Morgan when her immediate reaction to Brice being voted out and her not terribly well conceived blindside plan falling apart was to A) clumsily try to blame it all on Jeremiah. B) whine that Jeremiah wasn't hot enough to be on the Beauty tribe. Morgan probably benefited from that Tribal swap even more than the Brains. Who knows how things will play out for her now but she was toast on the Beauty tribe. And they hadn't even found out yet that she lied about the idol clue on Day 1. Sarah blowing up that lie and Morgan trying to brush it off as Alexis stared slack jawed at her was kind of hilarious. Morgan is a bad player and not coming off like much of a better personality.
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STAC Goat posted:Morgan is a bad player and not coming off like much of a better personality. I agree completely. I'm just saying that the edit is casting her as too untrustworthy to include in an alliance, and I'm not sure that's entirely the case. For the reasons you mentioned, she would be a good person to keep around.
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STAC Goat posted:Morgan is a bad player and not coming off like much of a better personality. I think she's just had some bad luck, there's nothing really to indicate that she's a bad player. The lie about the choice between idol clue and shelter was a pretty good one, and her throwing Jeremiah under the bus as soon as they got back from tribal that one time was pretty smart. She's been unlucky that the numbers just didn't go her way, but I wouldn't call her a bad player (at least from what we've seen so far). Not fantastic, but not bad. As for the personality thing, the only thing that's been sketchy thus far was her "he's not even that beautiful" comment, but given the circumstances it's hard to really know how indicative that is of her personality.
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I took her comment on Jeremiah not being beautiful enough for the beauty tribe as tongue in cheek. I'll admit I am biased. boobs
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Mar 23, 2014 18:38
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Every word she speaks gives me the impression she's a complete oval office. I'll admit I am biased. boobs
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Mar 23, 2014 19:09
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Met posted:Every word she speaks gives me the impression she's a complete oval office. I'll admit I am biased. boobs What a charmer you are!
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Mar 23, 2014 19:36
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I assume he does but maybe someone can confirm, does Rob C have some sort of deal with CBS that all the boots have to go on his show?
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Shakugan posted:I think she's just had some bad luck, there's nothing really to indicate that she's a bad player. The lie about the choice between idol clue and shelter was a pretty good one, and her throwing Jeremiah under the bus as soon as they got back from tribal that one time was pretty smart. She's been unlucky that the numbers just didn't go her way, but I wouldn't call her a bad player (at least from what we've seen so far). Not fantastic, but not bad. Yeah, when she outed Jeremiah as a liar I thought it was a silly and pointless move, but somehow it seemed to really get under Alexis's and Jeremiah's skin to the point where the remainder of that alliance completely fractured on the new orange tribe. As for the "he's not even that beautiful" comment, that was awesome. 
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Professor Shark posted:What a charmer you are! Everything she's done or said has been spiteful, a straight-up lie, or highschool drama bullshit. I get that it's a game that involves deceit, but because of the rest I find her to be rather contemptible.
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Fast Luck posted:I assume he does but maybe someone can confirm, does Rob C have some sort of deal with CBS that all the boots have to go on his show? There's always been a standard press junket that Survivors go through the day after their boot airs. I'd assume that Rob got his podcast added to that list, especially since those interviews are limited to 15 minutes or so.
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Met posted:Everything she's done or said has been spiteful, a straight-up lie, or highschool drama bullshit. I get that it's a game that involves deceit, but because of the rest I find her to be rather contemptible. Morgan posted:SURVIVOR Contestant You Are Most Like: I think I can relate most to Parvati Shallow because she is beautiful and manipulative just like me. She has the ability to make everyone love her but also fear her. That power and confidence is a good quality to have for this show.
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I bet 9 out of 10 bitchy, pretty Survivor fans think they're like Parvati. Shakugan posted:I think she's just had some bad luck, there's nothing really to indicate that she's a bad player. The lie about the choice between idol clue and shelter was a pretty good one, quote:and her throwing Jeremiah under the bus as soon as they got back from tribal that one time was pretty smart. mancalamania posted:Yeah, when she outed Jeremiah as a liar I thought it was a silly and pointless move, but somehow it seemed to really get under Alexis's and Jeremiah's skin to the point where the remainder of that alliance completely fractured on the new orange tribe. Instead Alexis doesn't trust Jeremiah, Jeremiah is again looking for the better place to be, and no one wants to deal with Morgan.
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I'm watching China and their second challenge is actually the one we just had - walls, log maze, even had the "hit the gong at the end." This isn't notable for reusing challenges (although it is sorta funny that Jeff called it a "chinese puzzle log"), but it is notable that both times they ran the challenge with 7 people on both tribes, forcing one person to sit out each time. Sorry if someone else noticed this, thread moves a little fast, especially around Thursday.
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I don't mind them re-using challenges as long as they're good ones. I remember one recent season at least had a few lazy-looking, boring-to-watch challenges where Jeff didn't even show up to officiate.
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