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Tyma posted:It's an weighted algorhythm based on the stats that are tracked during the match and sent to the coaching teams. It essentially boils down to which 15 players contributed the most, while loving up the least. Just draw your own graphs in MS paint and don't put any scales on it.
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Burrell, Lawes and Launchbury all had really good campaigns, I could've seen Tuilagi pushing BOD for the 13 spot too if he wasn't injured. Really happy to see so many Irish players in it, especially Devin Toner and Andrew Trimble. I was really sceptical about Toner as a Test level player but he upped his game this year, he's seriously impressive in line outs and while he's always going to be too big a target to carry effectively he has a great set of hands and always does a good bit of work getting around the pitch. Trimble is just the nicest guy you'll ever meet though, happy he played his way back into the squad after Kidney dropped him and had such a good campaign. Absolutely tireless for Ulster and Ireland, he chases every kick hard and while he isn't flashy he has a nose for the goal line. Looking back on things I'm really happy with how Ireland played, hopefully Schmidt can build on this year and not do a Kidney and poo poo the bed after some early success.
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gently caress I love Nick Cummins. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrcoFn3s7KM
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Mister Chief posted:gently caress I love Nick Cummins. Best post-match interview, ever!
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Vaders Jester posted:I think that's a wee bit unfair. Scotland looked directionless this year because Johnson had just given up and didn't give a poo poo, as shown by his total lack of desire to pull a forward off in place of putting Cuthbert at fullback when Hogg got sent off. We just awarded the guy who didn't give a poo poo and made Scotland a directionless, demoralized team the Director of Rugby position. The SRU promoted failure. Any other team - hell any other organisation - would have thrown Johnson out, if not shot him, but nope; we promote him! Cotter has to contend not only with a team that is in tatters, but an organisation that is inverse toward improving. There's no way he can hope to improve the team while clowns are in charge. Truth be told, I'm sort of in support of Scotland being thrown out the 6 nations until we put our house in order. We simply aren't good enough and its become a joke that's no longer funny.
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Tyma posted:He looks like he really, really looks like he should be playing in the #10 shirt. Remember that while in Union the fly-half is generally the first receiver, in League the stand-off is usually the second receiver. At the same time, the stand-off in League has to do a lot of the punting (and often place-kicking), whereas the fullback in League rarely kicks. So I think playing fullback for the Blues gives Marshall the additional space from the ruck (which he wouldn't have if he were usually in the pivot role of fly-half), the flexibility to insert at different places in in the line, and the opportunity to punt. I did notice (and so did the commentators) that he wasn't dropping back as much as an experienced rugby fullback, mostly because the lack of a tackle count means he may not be anticipating the punt as well.
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WMain00 posted:We just awarded the guy who didn't give a poo poo and made Scotland a directionless, demoralized team the Director of Rugby position. The SRU promoted failure. Any other team - hell any other organisation - would have thrown Johnson out, if not shot him, but nope; we promote him! But he was promoted on the strength of coming third in the Six Nations last year, which is better than any coach has come in 8 years. He did a pretty decent job with what he had, it's just this year has been a total shambles. I think this year he did far more damage than good but he was getting the Director job regardless of results this year and already had the contract so the SRU couldn't fire him. Removal from the Six Nations is bollocks, Ireland and Wales have gone through loving awful patches in the Five Nations championship and no one was calling for them to be thrown out, Italy are even worse than Scotland and I can't see anyone wanting them removed either, it's just sky-is-falling reactionary crap that would kill Scottish rugby (which is in enough trouble as it is) stone dead if it actually happened instead of putting our house in order.
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WMain00 posted:Truth be told, I'm sort of in support of Scotland being thrown out the 6 nations until we put our house in order. We simply aren't good enough and its become a joke that's no longer funny.
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Nobody's talking about kicking out the Welsh, and their house is a loving bomb site.
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Vaders Jester posted:But he was promoted on the strength of coming third in the Six Nations last year, which is better than any coach has come in 8 years. He did a pretty decent job with what he had, it's just this year has been a total shambles. I think this year he did far more damage than good but he was getting the Director job regardless of results this year and already had the contract so the SRU couldn't fire him. We came third last year because the other teams had varying results - it seems to be very much forgotten that we only won two games. EDIT: His overall tenure in charge is worse than Robinson and Hadden. His record is played 16, won 5, lost 11. His overall record is played 23, won 6, lost 16, drawn once. Does this really read like Director of Rugby material to you? Ireland and Wales went through awful patches but came out of it stronger, wiser and now leading, competitive teams within the Six Nations. Scotland has went through 14 years of failure, with no real improvement in any area and no real competitive edge. We stutter out the occasional win, but at no point do we ever look close to the other nations. Professional rugby in that time has become an utter shambles, the SRU has become a yes-man middle management bureau and the 1st team has went through coach after coach and player after player without ever finding solid ground. quote:You finished above Italy this year though, where does that leave them? Knowing the SRU, content because we didn't get the wooden spoon. 
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Well Director of Rugby and head coach are two entirely different roles so who knows how he'll do. Can't be any worse than the SRU are doing on their own without one. Scotland is far behind the other nations as far as organisation is concerned and this is a step in the right direction, whether Johnson is a better Director than he is coach remains to be seen, so I'll reserve judgement til then and ignore calls for Scotland to be taken out of the tournament because that's just an rear end-backwards suggestion.
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WMain00 posted:EDIT: His overall tenure in charge is worse than Robinson and Hadden. His record is played 16, won 5, lost 11. His overall record is played 23, won 6, lost 16, drawn once. Does this really read like Director of Rugby material to you? He's expected to be a very good Director of Rugby though, it's a totally different skillset and different job. Scotland have performed poorly but it takes an alignment of the stars for Scotland to do well, we don't have the player bases of France, England, Wales or Ireland and that is not the coaches fault in anyway. We need to get away from this short termism which is really negative and has caused a lot of the issues we have in Scotland. We need a Director of rugby to really drive participation and attendance to games. In the past we've tended to do one or the other but we really need both, more players and people to watch them and be passionate about the game.
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Aramoro posted:He's expected to be a very good Director of Rugby though, it's a totally different skillset and different job. You'll get neither by driving forward a Director of Rugby whose past experience and history does not warrant his promotion to the role. I'd be fascinated to see what our Welsh/Irish/English supporters think of this. Would you be as eager to appoint Johnson as Director of Rugby given his history?
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WMain00 posted:
gently caress no. Im welsh and he was perfect in his role as "skills coach" or whatever the gently caress he was, hes proven himself unsuited for any higher position. Director of rugby in Scotland is tasking him with essentially rebuilding the game from the grass roots/school levels up. That role requires a whole range of skills that im doubtful he has. I would however be happy to be proven wrong.
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Mar 19, 2014 23:47
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The way Israel Dagg's been playing this season, he might not have stopped taking the pills. http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/union-news/nzru-confirms-all-blacks-sleeping-pill-use-20140320-hvkui.html
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Warren Gatland is apparantly the smartest man in the world after all! http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/warren-gatland-reveals-plan-wales-6852064 Rhys Priestland XV vs Dan Biggar XV in a televised match, with starting spots and captaincy decided by the winning team? It sounds like something The Western Mail would make up, but the proposed date completely undermines The Ospreys and The Scarlets' ability to reach the Playoffs, so I'm actually inclined to believe it's somewhat true.
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Tyma posted:Warren Gatland is apparantly the smartest man in the world after all! This is cool. I remember Henry organised some trial games before the 99 World Cup and it owned.
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There's not much point in calling it 'Propables' vs 'Possibles',with Gatland it's 'The 23 I will pick' vs 'James Hook,Dan Biggar and the rest'. e:Stephen Ferris starts his first match since 2012 tomorrow!  and it's not being televised  .tag youre fat fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Mar 20, 2014 |
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Mar 20, 2014 21:09
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I don't just dress them up in traditional Celtic clothing and make them fight to the death in the millennium stadium with the winner being the next captain.
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Kitchner posted:I don't just dress them up in traditional Celtic clothing and make them fight to the death in the millennium stadium with the winner being the next captain. Glad I still have this : 
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Mar 21, 2014 01:42
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That hurricanes try was really good. Shame about the rest of the game.
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WMain00 posted:You'll get neither by driving forward a Director of Rugby whose past experience and history does not warrant his promotion to the role. But being a coach and director of rugby have absolutely no similarities at all. He was only ever interim coach whilst we found a replacement as his background and experience show he is suited to the director role. Now if you want to attack his appointment as the Director of rugby based on his past experience then go for it, but you cannot based on his coaching record as that would like saying someone makes a bad Scrum half as they're awful at sudoku. We've had exactly 3 coaches in history with a positive win rate, Bill Dickinson, Jim Telfer and Ian McGeechan. We keep on criticizing our coaches and getting new ones as if it's going to be some panacea whilst retaining all the same back room staff between head coaches and doing nothing to change the underlying culture in Scottish Rugby. Vern Cotter is going to have a losing record as Scotland coach as nothing has really changed, what can he do when all the backroom staff are the same, the players are the same and engagement of from grassroots rugby is the same. What we need is a all round strategy for promoting rugby and developing new players to the point where we can support at least 3 fully competitive teams in Scotland. Until we have at least 3 pro teams Scotland will never be competitive on an international stage.
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What's the Scottish club game like these days? I heard from a few people that it was pretty much destroyed by the SRU through mismanagement and lack of funding, but that was a few years ago and I think they were just bitter that their own club went to poo poo. I can't see any other way to build than from the bottom up. Ireland get by on a strong schools and club infrastructure, with the AIL and provincial club leagues giving thousands of people who want into rugby an opportunity to do so, where do the SRU think the talent's coming from if they neglect the grassroots levels? Of course success in the 6N would in theory get more people involved, but what's the use of getting them to play the game in Scotland if the club level is a pile of shite? Whoever gets the job has a hell of a task in front of them.
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Lions Raw is currently £5 at Amazon. - The Western Mail ran an opinion poll, to ask "Which Welsh player do you want to play at #10 on the tour of South Africa" Dan Biggar: 74.96% James Hook: 22.27% Rhys Priestland: 2.78% Tyma fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Mar 22, 2014 |
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Are the Blues going to bottle it? I'm kinda hoping the Cheetahs get something from their tour, they're one of the more positive SA side and can play some really nice Rugby. e: That's some suicidal defence right there.
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Unimpressed posted:Are the Blues going to bottle it? I'm kinda hoping the Cheetahs get something from their tour, they're one of the more positive SA side and can play some really nice Rugby. The Cheetahs are this seasons  est side. I really thought after last year they'd pull something together but they had a pretty brutal start. Meanwhile the Lions...  Every week I keep waiting for them to collapse and it doesn't happen.
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Unimpressed posted:Are the Blues going to bottle it? No - but they did their best in the last 15 minutes by deciding to be rubbish at the set-piece again. I just got back from the game and was happy with the result and seeing Kaino back. However they need to be a lot better in the set-pieces than they are and clean up their defense out wide.
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I missed the second half. The setpiece in the first half was going reasonably well, so I guess the Blues decided to be the Blues, then. Also, another shocker by the referees in a game involving the Blues. At least this time they were the beneficiaries of it. The ref was actually doing quite well up to that point as well. Judging from the way he was talking to the players, it was clear his English is only passable, so the unnecessarily convoluted TMO call must have confused him. It also appeared he was asking for clarification from one of the assistant refs, but I guess he did a rubbish job too.
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Vagabundo posted:I missed the second half. The setpiece in the first half was going reasonably well, so I guess the Blues decided to be the Blues, then. True - but then Parsons went off and McCartney came on...
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The Brumbies were looking pretty good considering all their injuries. The only thing that bothered me about them today and last week is that they're pretty cynical when the opposition gets inside their 22. They're not the only ones by any means, but they are worse than most. I really wish the refs were quicker with the yellow card for repeated offences. Warning them at the 75th minute was too little, too late. Right now, the balance of things is that it's well worth giving away a penalty and stopping the attack. The team on the offensive then have to risk a lineout or a scrum instead of being able to play the ball they had.
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MyChemicalImbalance posted:What's the Scottish club game like these days? I heard from a few people that it was pretty much destroyed by the SRU through mismanagement and lack of funding, but that was a few years ago and I think they were just bitter that their own club went to poo poo. The clubs are mostly amateur with a few semi-pros. The top 4 teams from the Premier Division go into the British & Irish cup. Of those, Ayr are the only team to have had any kind of success in that competition, they got to the knock out rounds in 2011. It's tough for them going up against professional English and Irish sides. When rugby went professional they were a little bit more competitive but it was the right decision to introduce professional district sides. That pissed off the clubs though and in some quarters they haven't forgiven the SRU for that. The biggest problem in Scottish rugby I think is how disjointed it all is. There isn't a unified youth system until players get signed into the professional development system. Of these, some players come from their clubs, some come from the independent schools, and the independent schools refuse to play against the clubs (since they wouldn't be able to offer scholarships to nick the best club players). There are 4!!! national leagues so teams who can barely scrape together a 2nd XV are having to travel from the Aberdeen down to the Borders. And those teams are losing a huge number of games to bad weather every winter. Ideally, the season would be moved to summer and the number of teams playing in national competitions reduced, but clubs in the lower tiers do not like that idea at all. They see it as the top tier kicking the ladder out from under them. The SRU's biggest mistake was renovating Murrayfield just before the game went pro and getting saddled with debt that left them unable to fund the professional game properly. It's ironic that because the IRFU didn't renovate Landsdown Road they didn't get in the same debt and were able to fund the regions properly, get European success, build huge support and then build the stadium to capitalise on it. If only the SRU had been poorer in the early 90's, that could of been us!
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butros posted:Meanwhile the Lions... ...aaaaaand they just won again  ? Can't wait to catch the replay to see how the Reds butchered that - 2 yellows in the last 10 minutes?!?!
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Painkiller posted:The clubs are mostly amateur with a few semi-pros. The top 4 teams from the Premier Division go into the British & Irish cup. Of those, Ayr are the only team to have had any kind of success in that competition, they got to the knock out rounds in 2011. It's tough for them going up against professional English and Irish sides. When rugby went professional they were a little bit more competitive but it was the right decision to introduce professional district sides. That pissed off the clubs though and in some quarters they haven't forgiven the SRU for that. This, basically. That and the SRU scouting system is very "old school club" based. It took Sean Lineen while in Glasgow to look beyond the private school teams and the "friend of a family" attitude to bring in talent such as Weir, who comes from an absolutely nowhere background wise (comprehensive high school followed by a stint at my home College). The SRU doesn't look at talent - it goes by old school tie attitudes and who you know, rather than how good you are. There are alot of teams in Scotland that field very good players, but are not even glanced at by the scouting system. Unfortunately its not getting any better. The SRU is now taking the attitude of "lets look overseas because there's nothing here", rather than restructuring to bring in talent from home. Basically we're hosed.
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Just read that Israel Folau has scored 8 tries so far in 4 games. According to wikipedia the record for most tries by an individual in a season is 15 (Joe Roff and Rico Gear)  Mister Chief posted:Imagine how many he could score if he played for a good team. true on the computer fucked around with this message at 13:52 on Mar 23, 2014 |
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Imagine how many he could score if he played for a good team.
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WMain00 posted:This, basically. Very good article in the Sunday Times today that lays it all out. http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/sport/rugby_union/Internationals/article1390845.ece quote:I’D LIKE to think I know a little about rugby in Scotland, having played, coached and been a supporter of the game at the highest level here for the best part of 20 years. Despite not being born in this country, I am a Scotland fan and I want to see our national side beating the best sides in the world. Painkiller fucked around with this message at 13:53 on Mar 23, 2014 |
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Painkiller posted:Very good article in the Sunday Times today that lays it all out. Also this from the BBC recently: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/26257162 e: The Dragons pack is awful in this Connacht game, it's been a huge problem for years now Christ, replacing the whole front row after 28 minutes is pretty damning Answers Me fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Mar 23, 2014 |
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Mister Chief posted:Imagine how many he could score if he played for a good team. The Waratahs aren't all that bad this year really.
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Answers Me posted:Christ, replacing the whole front row after 28 minutes is pretty damning Especially when one of the sub props is 40,and has visible mantits. Connacht have had a few awful performances this year,but they've got 4 league wins in a row now (First time they've done so since 2003) and if they're lucky,they might beat the Scarlets for 6th in the league,which would put them into next year's Heineken Cup. Pat Lam's had a pretty horrible year so far.Firstly,he signs three SH players,James So'oialo,Jake Heenan and Craig Clarke.So'oialo has trouble with his visa,arrives near the end of September,plays two matches and then goes back to New Zealand.Heenan plays really well from day one,forcing himself into the starting team,and then gets a season-ending injury about a month ago.Clarke takes a while to start performing,then gets one concussion too many and has to take an indefinite break. Then,one of the team's young centres has to retire from injuries,which really isn't the best time as of the two current first choice centres,one of them is going to London Irish next year,and the other is made of glass and will probably be coming back to Leinster soon.At the same time,they're having so many injuries in the back row that they have to sign an academy player from Leinster who gets injured before even getting the chance to play a match and has to get surgery. I don't think many people had much hope in Lam,so he's defying expectations so far.
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Mister Chief posted:Imagine how many he could score if he played for a good team. Don't you support the Hurricanes? 
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