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Lottery of Babylon posted:Audience Alienating Premise Is anyone here good at giving lobotomies? I want to forget about reading all of this but I don't think I ever will. It's either loving incest or pedophilia with these people. Nothing else. Testekill fucked around with this message at 05:54 on Mar 23, 2014 |
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So basically that page just boils down to "pedoshit isn't popular because the plebs just won't give it a chance." Sounds a lot like the justifications I've heard given for it before. To be fair to tropers, those sorts of fans are unnervingly common (or at least loud) in the anime world. I don't think their presence is a problem confined to this particular venue. I'll still chalk it up as a shortcoming of community structure where it's difficult to get rid of that kind of poo poo.
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Lottery of Babylon posted:I thought the problem with Other M wasn't the presence of a story but the way Samus was weak, blindly followed orders, and wouldn't activate harmless, useful abilities like "make my suit acid-resistant" until her boss gave her permission? None of those were present in previous games. The problem wasn't "a story exists". Also re: anime pedo incest poo poo, is it any wonder that we have this emoticon? 
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To be fair, Audience-Alienating Premise isn't just an anime trope. It has other examples too, like video games!Video game examples posted:Monster Girl Quest: Lose and the Girls Rape You. It's a deep and engaging story deconstructing half the tropes in existence and parodying the rest, involving a race war that goes back to the dawn of the world... but that doesn't change the fact that the battle mechanic is the hero fighting off the monster girls who are trying to rape him. More video game examples posted:Criminal Girls is an above-average dungeon crawler with excellent characterization, but good luck getting anyone to see beyond the Squicky (and fanservice-y) premise about beating and torturing teenage girls into subservience. I feel like a worse person for now having read these video game examples posted:Stretch Panic is about a girl who uses a possessed scarf to fight her demon-possessed sisters. She must exorcise the demons, which require points that you must obtain by groping women with comically over-sized breasts. They can't even use their usual "We're an encyclopedia, we need to academically catalogue everything" excuse, because for things like these and the pedoshit, they're not even pretending to be neutral; they're actively praising the pedoshit's alleged deep themes or the games' alleged superior mechanics, and lamenting that we plebes won't see past the rape and child porn in order to give them a chance.
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There was a bad idea here. It's gone now.
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Mar 23, 2014 08:45
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Seems to me tvtropes gave an accurate explanation whereas you gave an... imcomplete one.
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From a quick google it seems like a kids game that tropers converted into weird sex poo poo. Also your description seemed pretty creepy too dude.
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all the tropes has a page on lolita so Affably Evil: Humbert Humbert in spades. There's at least one moment in the book (which also turns up in some form in the movie adaptations) in which he contemplates killing his wife and how easily he could get away with it, but finds that he really is just too nice to do it. In some ways, this actually makes him even worse, and the mid-story Diabolus Ex Machina that puts her out of his way that much more bitterly ironic. The unabridged audio book version, read by Jeremy Irons, carries this further - Irons' reading over twelve hours almost makes the character's actions excusable.
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quote:As embarrassing as it is to admit it, I've never liked it when characters in the media use strong language. I've heard all kinds of justifications for it: "it's more realistic" (point taken in historical dramas and other more down-to-earth stories, but are we really trying to call superhero films realistic now?), "it's the character' speaking, not the writer" (well I don't like that part of the character), "[character X] is just the kind of person who swears a lot" (point taken, still gratuitous though), and "what's the big deal, they're just words" (the biggest crock of bull I've ever heard, they're listed as vulgar in the dictionary for a damned good reason), and none of them have done anything to change my viewpoint. It's reaching almost phobiaesque levels; I get incredibly nervous when I have to watch a movie I haven't before when it's rated above a G, since even PG-rated films are allowed to use every swear word on the book except "gently caress", and even then there have been exceptions to the rule. It is downright humiliating how many good movies I've had to miss out on because of this entirely unjustified - but overpowering - fear.
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Kodomo no Kodomo ("A Child's Child") is actually a serious drama that deals more about how such an event rocks a community and focusses more on the aftermath. It's closer to something like Precious or Kids by Larry Clark. No fanservice, no titillation, and still they manage to make it sound like TAWMNBN by association.
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corn in the bible posted:Affably Evil: Humbert Humbert in spades. There's at least one moment in the book (which also turns up in some form in the movie adaptations) in which he contemplates killing his wife and how easily he could get away with it, but finds that he really is just too nice to do it. In some ways, this actually makes him even worse, and the mid-story Diabolus Ex Machina that puts her out of his way that much more bitterly ironic. The unabridged audio book version, read by Jeremy Irons, carries this further - Irons' reading over twelve hours almost makes the character's actions excusable. This Jeremy Irons.
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BioEnchanted posted:The annoying thing is, Stretch Panic! is a really interesting game with the bosses, as the Demons of Vanity have varying effects based on the sister's personalities. Starts off tame with a pyromaniac who now can breathe fire, but one of the sisters is a horror movie buff and therefore her idealised form is a creature so horrifying that her boss fight is keeping the doors closed so that she can't enter the room or you die of fright. 
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BioEnchanted posted:The annoying thing is, Stretch Panic! is a really interesting game with the bosses, as the Demons of Vanity have varying effects based on the sister's personalities. Starts off tame with a pyromaniac who now can breathe fire, but one of the sisters is a horror movie buff and therefore her idealised form is a creature so horrifying that her boss fight is keeping the doors closed so that she can't enter the room or you die of fright. Kaboom Dragoon posted:Kodomo no Kodomo ("A Child's Child") is actually a serious drama that deals more about how such an event rocks a community and focusses more on the aftermath. It's closer to something like Precious or Kids by Larry Clark. No fanservice, no titillation, and still they manage to make it sound like TAWMNBN by association. Cool.
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There's no defending BioEnchanted, but Kaboom Dragon is actually right.
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Mar 23, 2014 18:14
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All Women Are Lustful: At least all the monster women are (Justified since their sustenance is male semen)
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Mar 23, 2014 18:19
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Who is even making these horrible video games
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Lottery of Babylon posted:To be fair, Audience-Alienating Premise isn't just an anime trope. It has other examples too, like video games! "Girls Rape You" is capitalized there. Is it... oh, God, is it a trope? Tell me they don't have an article for this. (they have an article for this)
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Antivehicular posted:"Girls Rape You" is capitalized there. Is it... oh, God, is it a trope? Tell me they don't have an article for this. Isn't that pretty much every Troper's wet dream?
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Antivehicular posted:"Girls Rape You" is capitalized there. Is it... oh, God, is it a trope? Tell me they don't have an article for this. Nope. It's the subtitle of the game (thanks Games forum for causing me to know about that)
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Swan Oat posted:Who is even making these horrible video games Japanese studios that know their market. There's supposedly entire shows for this poo poo that resembles late 80's Comic-Con. Just bins and bins of porn games with a bunch of sad Goony fucks pawing through them.
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As someone who's pretty much playing Monster Girl Quest as penance for a prank gone wrong, I assure you, it is as bad as you think it is. A porn game based on chicks raping you, no wonder tropers flock to this like flies on poo poo.
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Annointed posted:As someone who's pretty much playing Monster Girl Quest as penance for a prank gone wrong, I'm sure that was the reason.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr50ELt1ITY
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Testekill posted:I'm sure that was the reason.
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a wank gone wrong
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Someone better have died or been maimed in that prank.
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TVTropes Pleads the Fifth: A Wank Gone Wrong
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Sham bam bamina! posted:Given the "Ann" pun in the username, I can believe it. Her?
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Swan Oat posted:Who is even making these horrible video games People who know there's a market of people who are terrified of women, terrified of rejection, terrified of social interaction, or just terrified of everything outside of the glow of their computer screen, and are quite willing to fork over hundreds of dollars over and over to sate their brain's attempts to feel comfortable with how they're wasting their lives. If they're not people like that themselves, it's a case of 'These people exist, their delusional arrogance will ensure few change, may as well exploit it for all its worth.'
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Cornwind Evil posted:People who know there's a market of people who are terrified of women, terrified of rejection, terrified of social interaction, or just terrified of everything outside of the glow of their computer screen, and are quite willing to fork over hundreds of dollars over and over to sate their brain's attempts to feel comfortable with how they're wasting their lives. If they're not people like that themselves, it's a case of 'These people exist, their delusional arrogance will ensure few change, may as well exploit it for all its worth.' You're hurting my feelings, I'm going to go post on TV Tropes where nobody is mean to me instead! 
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Well, will you look at that. Yet another site that I thought was interesting turns out to be a haven of unpleasantness. Yay. I think the reason I never noticed anything wrong with it site is that I have no interest in anime, so I never opened that drop-down menu, and I find the forum layout confusing so I never spelunked in that particular cave of horrors. paradoxGentleman fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Mar 24, 2014 |
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Soulcleaver posted:Creator Backlash, Writer Revolt and Unwinnable are three pages I unironically enjoy. There's some cool stuff in TV Tropes that makes you wish the whole site could have that level of quality instead of jacking off to ponies, pontificating on childish anime series, and listing six hundred different types of rape. Let's have a look at this cool stuff. Unwinnable By Design posted:Fluxx starts off with the rule card Draw One, Play One with no goal in play. At the beginning of the game, it's not possible for anyone to win — yet. In Chess you can't win on the first turn, really makes u think Writer Revolt posted:The Nostalgia Critic eventually developed a character arc about how pathetic the title character was, and how a lot of his suffering was his own fault for reviewing crappy movies. The culmination of this was Critic moving past his flaws, and going out with dignity. Doug Walker then moved on to Demo Reel, a project he had been wanting to do for a long time. Unfortunately, the loss of the Nostalgia Critic made the page views for That Guy with the Glasses suffer, and Demo Reel ending up having financial and production difficulties. Eventually, Doug was forced to bring back the Critic, with Demo Reel revealing that the whole thing was fake, and just a purgatory for the Critic, undoing all of the character development he had experienced. Since bringing the Critic back, Doug's reviewing style is accused of having become more mean spirited, such as being much quicker to attack actors involved in the films he reviews. He also seems a lot less leery of offending his fanbase, such as reviewing Matilda (a film he dislikes but originally decided he wouldn't review after negative fan reaction to the idea) and making suicide jokes soon after Jew Wario took his own life. It's easy to think his more vitrolic reviewing style is a reaction to being forced to abandon his pet project, and bringing back a character he was ready to retire. I hope all of you unironically enjoyed reading this story of a thirty-year-old man being grumpy about internet review videos. Lottery of Babylon fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Mar 24, 2014 |
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Cornwind Evil posted:People who know there's a market of people who are terrified of women, terrified of rejection, terrified of social interaction, or just terrified of everything outside of the glow of their computer screen, and are quite willing to fork over hundreds of dollars over and over to sate their brain's attempts to feel comfortable with how they're wasting their lives. If they're not people like that themselves, it's a case of 'These people exist, their delusional arrogance will ensure few change, may as well exploit it for all its worth.' That's pretty much the mission statement for the entire video game/computer game industry.
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Soulcleaver posted:Creator Backlash, Writer Revolt and Unwinnable are three pages I unironically enjoy. There's some cool stuff in TV Tropes that makes you wish the whole site could have that level of quality instead of jacking off to ponies, pontificating on childish anime series, and listing six hundred different types of rape. I just got around to checking out the Creator Backlash page. Most of it is really boring - the examples are basically "[author] wrote [thing], later [author] said [thing] was bad" ad nauseam - but I did find this: Creator Backlash posted:Something Awful forumers who run particularly popular Lets Plays tend to get angry when they become notorious enough for tropers to make a trope page for them or their LP(s) and start gushing about them. This is due to Something Awful's massive hatred of TV Tropes.note The site is viewed as having too much trivia, too little content, the mere ability to post an opinion/outright lie as a fact and that either perverted, weird, or factually wrong people making these claims, as well as a general dislike for anime and most anime trends. Can we add "inability to write a coherent sentence" to the list of reasons we don't like them? They also don't seem to understand why they're disliked; it has nothing to do with "the mere ability to post an opinion/outright lie as a fact" (which is possible with any site where people can write or post things) and everything to do with, you know, the infestation of pedophilia. (Or does that fall under the umbrella of "most anime trends"?)
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Let's have a look at this cool stuff. What the hell is with tropers and their fixation with the Doug Walker? They're making it sound like the Nostalgia Critic has this deep character arc.
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Because they're mentally and emotionally stunted spergs who are still obsessed with their childhood infatuations, and that's the kind of stuff Doug Walker talks about.
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rjryan3 posted:What the hell is with tropers and their fixation with the Doug Walker? They're making it sound like the Nostalgia Critic has this deep character arc. In his X-Men review, the Critic argues the uselessness of arguing why someone should review something someone else did already. He then says that at least he didn't rip off the Chick and do a Dark Nella saga with Rob... until Dark Rob enters! ...but in order for him to do that... he would've had to... kill his own brother! "It's prom night all over again!" Make your own conclusions, people. Cynical manchildren don't tend to give a poo poo about prom and we know from his commercials special that he had such promise as a kid. Imagine a nicer, younger, more optimistic Critic looking forward to prom but waking up to a sleazy-and-proud-of-it guy who talked about him like he was a conquest. Ow. Who said it had to be a guy? Because we found it out after Spoony raped him and "all over again" is important here. "Granted, I didn't grow up as a girl. At least, not for long. *beat* I have a history." That was a (still) funny, throwaway line from the NickComs review. Considering that we learned later that his parents were abusive enough to be drawn as monsters, the implications can be creepy. Also something to do with his past: in crossovers, he nearly always has an argument with someone and acts like a complete brat. But then he just seems to cave for no reason and break down. Isn't that the behavior of an abused child? Give up very quickly so he wouldn't get hurt as much? Way back in the Scariest Nostalgic Moments, he says he's going to stand up for himself (against the banshee) like that usually doesn't happen. His comment about mouthing off to his Dad with "This is the nineties, old man" suggests as well as being the last time he ever did that, it was probably the first time too. Also from the "Spooning With Spoony" series; watch the two episodes back to back. While still bad, at least the Chick was just a random lay that he didn't really care much for. The way he says the Critic's name... it sounds like he's really proud of this one. Add that to Spoony nonchalantly mentioning it outside of his SWS persona (the blackmailing in the "Captain America" review for example) and you start to get why Critic wouldn't care about killing him-inside-Insano in Kickassia. It should really have been obvious from the first viewing, but in his "Commercials Special" he says "There's nothing left for me anymore." and then slumps over in his chair. Forgetting his He's Back moment right after, let's think about this. He would have killed himself. And this wasn't Suicide as Comedy, this was genuine giving up, can't deal with it anymore. The beginning gave the impression that he gets depressed a lot, so what happens next time he gets like this? In his Commercials Special part two, he's wearing the same shirt and is actually relatively happy (if a little bit manic). But in the first one he said in the beginning "I do what I always do when I get depressed; I watch commercials." So what the hell happened this time? His "nastie-wasties" speech was already creepy but I didn't get the mass-murder/suicide bit until a while later. So let's sum it up: he hates his reviewing life, he has no power and when he finally does...if it's taken away, there's a big part of him that would kill everyone and himself. Jesus Christ this guy is hosed up. Doug says that in his "Cartoon Allstars" commentary that whenever Critic yells or looks angry, it's usually because whatever he's watching is scaring him. What mentally healthy person honestly gets scared that much? So what did the stalker person do to him that's got him still scared? Judging by how bullied he was and how most people aren't fond of being broken up with three times, it can't have been nice. Speaking of, how naive do you have to be to break up with someone three times in a row? It could have easily been about another relationship, but his line about Domestic Abuse in his Top Eleven Batman Episodes seems to hint that it was abusive already and he kept going back. And we've seen him go back for more and be horrified with himself in the donation drive Spooning With Spoony. On the topic of fear, while the Hostage Video might be Fridge Sexy to some, it looks like he was there for a while. With how terrified he was and how rough he was treated, just how long was he there for and what were they doing to him? He's one of the worst kinds of drunk; Can't Hold His Liquor, crying easily, touchy-feely, even less common sense and can easily pass out. He "went drinking with the Spoony One". No wonder rapey!Spoony likes him so much. In the Chick's review of TLC, he defends living with his mom because she's his world. This is a person who gets drawn as a monster when he was six, raised him as a girl for a short time and the best thing we've heard about her is that she helped him with getting bullied (which had to be at least caused by how she and Daddy Critic raised him) when he was a kid. I think we've got a pretty decent case of Stockholm Syndrome here. And think back to all those times where he got himself killed or in trouble. She was in the house. She just doesn't give a poo poo about him. In the beginning of the first Care Bears review, he stops complaining about having to watch it to reassure people that his job is the best in the world. Sweet, except the next thing that came up in the "canon timeline" was Kickassia. He was lying through his teeth, wasn't he? I couldn't work my head around why he suddenly wanted power so badly that he would even go for murder-suicide if someone wanted to take it away from him. Then after a Archive Binge, it hit me, why wouldn't he want power when most of the time he seems to hate his job and his life? Look at the Full House review where he hopes the fans appreciate what he does for them, look at the review of The Care Bears Movie where he said how embarrassing it was. There's the amount of times he's quickly broken down crying after being an rear end to the others and how he admitted to CR that he acts like a Bad Boss because he's ridiculously insecure (he even said that it was mainly because of Kickassia) and scared of people going into his territory. And then there's obviously how being told he's pathetic once has a major blow on his self-esteem making him not wanting to do his job anymore. Obviously it isn't an excuse on how he acted that week but still... poor Critic. Okay, so he likes toppy women. Awesome. But liking them so much he's willing to be pretty much snuffed by psychotic ladies in prison doesn't exactly suggest Safe, Sane and Consensual relationships. In his Alaska review, he mentions that the last time he mouthed off to his Dad (in the 90s) really was the last time he mouthed off to his Dad. Judging by how shaky he looks when he says this, it's hard to imagine he was just grounded or got a smack. His reaction to a moment in Patch Adams that really angers him is to whip it with a belt. After all we've heard about his past, the idea that the reaction is from experience of being on the receiving end of such treatment is not all that unrealistic. With that thought in mind, that guilty-slash-miserable expression in the "Top 11 Cereal Mascots" after he says his Dad still has AIDS, looks a lot like he's still scared of the retribution that would likely come from airing that little fact out in the open. Where did he get that skull he occasionally drinks from? More importantly, what is he drinking? In the Nemo review when he gets rewarded for not making a Finding Nemo joke, listen closely and you'll hear him squeeing that's he's never been so loved. Boy needs a hug. The Chick/Critic G-Rated Sex ending in "Now you're pregnant" in Ferngully is hilarious and shippy, but isn't it also rape? After she says it, he's screaming, crying and trying to get away while she's grinning and holding onto him tight. And as a result, the also wonderfully shippy moment of her chloroforming then happily fondling him gets a little bit creepier. Especially as there's a heavy implication in the next episode that she's done this before (as when he sees the rag he instantly knows who did it) and she repeats the I Have You Now, My Pretty face when she's tied up Todd later on. From The Pebble and the Penguin review, mixing Nyquil and Vicodin is a horrible idea and can kill you. From what we know about Critic's past, it's likely this was intentional at some point. Also, he revealed in his Batman and Robin review that he carries around tranquilizers (which could either be some kind of opiate-based medicine like Vicodin or Percocet, or possibly a benzo-type medicine like Klonopin or Xanax). Those can be very addicting, so when the Critic freaks out, we could be seeing withdrawal symptoms. At the beginning of his James and the Giant Peach review, he's just been allowed out of a high-security prison, his tie and jacket are missing, he thinks everyone hates him and he's a lot meeker than usual. He would make a suitable bitch. No matter how Jerkass Woobie/Jerk with a Heart of Gold-ish he might be, he's also an unstable Serial Killer with suicidal tendencies. He shouldn't have been allowed out in the first place. And then there's giving "everything" to Sage in the Care Bears II review, which probably means he won't be having any fun after he dies. No matter how assy he can be, he's still a fundamentally good guy who doesn't deserve that. And then there's the other meaning. Whether it's a case of desperation, being a bit of a ditz, mind control or all three, he would have done anything Sage wanted. Sage. He's very lucky he didn't get asked to do worse. In his review of 'Son of the Mask', we see the real Satan; This means he gave all his money to Sage and tossed himself off a cliff for no reason, and this is Played for Laughs. Well, at least, his soul isn't in danger. Yet. Critic and Ask That Guy being related is turning into Ascended Fanon. What's bad about it is that their hilariously abusive childhoods match up surprisingly well. Confirmed as of Ask That Guy's 68th episode. Let's just hope the grandfather that Critic had fond memories of wasn't the one who Ask That Guy said he'd Stuffed In The Fridge on his 90th birthday. From his rant about kids having too much pressure on them in The Secret of NIMH II, getting a meal when he got an A- and his homework always getting torn up by bullies, it wouldn't surprising if his ditzy tendencies came from his parents making him think he was an academic letdown. Confirmed as of the Top 11 Simpsons Episodes. Do you feel like a dick now for laughing at his stupid moments? In the Gordy review, the Critic responds to the idea that people can understand animals if they just "take time to listen", by trying to listen to his saucepan, which immediately starts yelling "gently caress YOU! gently caress YOU!" Why is the pan so angry? Well... how would you feel if you were kept shut in absolute darkness almost your entire life except for once in awhile when you were set on top of a burning flame and filled with boiling liquid? Crossing over with Adult Fear, he had a gun as a child. Yes he only shot his Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles doll because he was scared of it, but any worthwhile parent would be having a fit. Yet more from Spooning With Spoony II. Before going into "The Spocker", Spoony tells a basically catatonic Critic that he found the George Takei book and calls him a dirty, dirty man (i.e that he's a slut who wanted it). In a con, Doug-as-Critic was reminiscing about it dreamily, Critic drank with him again in the donation drive and was pretty much orgasming over the prospect of "The Spocker" in the Avatar group review. So... Spoony was right? With the pills and drink he ingests, his tendency to piss people off, how Trigger Happy he is, the temper tantrums and the manic depression, it'll be a surprise if he even makes to fifty. Once Upon a Forest has three The Internet Is for Porn jokes where the audience would rather go on that than watch his review. The first and third are blurred and of grown stars, but the second is a rather disturbing Freeze-Frame Bonus. It's a sex trafficking site, with a picture of a fifteen year old girl and the caption "make her suffer". Seeing as how he thinks just leaving a child alone is comparable to Hitler, you've got to wonder how much Critic loathes his audience. He admitted in the Gordy review that he's exhausted. He was going to face Jaffers killing him with just a bit too much dignity. He gets close to Empty Shell state whenever he's BSOD-ing. He's been killing himself a lot less lately. His job issues still haven't gone. Maybe he's just given up and is living life out of obligation. His not realizing that something was up with The Sci-Fi Guy could have been less ditziness and more getting distracted by someone being nice to him. We know from his conversation with Joe that his constant giving in to people has been on his mind lately and he made the decision to kill Guy when he found out they were about to review the same thing. It needs a bit of background research, but he makes a comment in Judge Dredd about how he'd rather take the retirement homes he'd seen on 20/20 any day than the "long walk". So he'd rather be vulnerable and abused in horrible ways than be alone. If we go with the theory above that the world was much worse if the Critic was never born and God just didn't want him to know that, Chester wasn't shown in the Christmas Special because he very probably froze or starved to death. Why wouldn't Sage give off mass I Have You Now, My Pretty vibes (especially with the "I can't play with you if you're dead" bit) in the Starchaser review? After all, he probably still remembers Critic's promise to give him "everything" way back in Care Bears II. Not to mention that there's a fifty percent chance he raped Critic in the "man-sandwich" with Spoony. In Jack - hey Critic, perhaps if you'd asked about sex stuff and not just thought any boy who did was stupid, then maybe you wouldn't have been stalked or raped on your prom night? Also from that episode, he complains ten year olds wouldn't want to sleep with their parents after a bad dream. He's right generally, but based on what he's said about his childhood, he probably knew he'd get hit if he ever asked. If he's curious enough as an adult to phone up hotlines that he thinks are run by pedophiles, then imagine what he must have been like as a kid. So how many people do you think died in his Quest for Camelot town-blowing-up tantrums? Or an even better question, how many children? His "review" of High School Musical. This is not his video, this is a fan-made video put together from clips of his different reviews and scenes from the abovementioned movie. There is something very unsettling about the fact that anybody can take your words and do everything they want with them. Douchey Mc Nitpick is now the Plot Hole, a role that has in-universe been compared to God. The problems with this should be obvious. The main complaint the Critic had about The Odd Life of Timothy Green was that the parenting was abominable. This enraged Doug Walker so much when he saw the film that it prompted the return of the character just to rip that film the new one he felt it deserved. Remember how his experiences with bad parenting were and you'll see why he hates the movie that much. Critic's Imagine Spots of Bay, Tina and Dawg were a nasty parody-like version of Demo Reel, as Bay was wearing Donnie's blue shirt, the Batman music, that they were director/actress/writer True Companions... and they were exactly what the three would hate to be like: Donnie, who desperately wanted to do good and treated affection like air, is a prissy martyr who can only make poo poo. Rebecca, who was sexualized against her will at an early age and wanted people to notice that she was smart, is a ditz whose only feature is her boobs. Tacoma, who was nice and intelligent and slightly granola, is just an offensive black stereotype. Confirmed when you watch the Demo Reel Transformers episode. In that, Donnie wanted to pander to the Michael Bay crowd and tried to get Tacoma and Rebecca to join him. But they stood their ground, having obviously suffered racism and sexism and not wanting to be stereotypes, and he apologized for his ignorance. In Pearl Harbor however, Bay is treated as an innocent and Dawg and Tina are the stereotypes. Who was such an awful partner for him that even his parents thought it would only end miserably? Considering how important a character Ma-Ti is, the events of Captain Planet take place in the Channel Awesome universe. Now that Ma-Ti is dead and his ring nowhere in sight, there's no way to summon Captain Planet to fight off the eco-villains. Captain Planet can be summoned with only some of the elements. However, without heart, he probably would have no conscience and would destroy mankind for being a threat to life on Earth. In the review of Devil, Santa Christ says he's made bowls of oatmeal SCARIER THAN THE DEVIL HIMSELF. It's played as an insult, but considering his past, it would be totally in character...
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You know how TvTropes often has a "Characters" subpage where it lists tropes for each character individually? In addition to their page for the Nostalgia Critic show, they also have an entire page for just the Nostalgia Critic alone, no other characters. They have an additional subpage for other characters Doug Walker plays, and a third, separate page for other other characters. All of these for a single internet review show. These are just for the Nostalgia Critic alone, not for his other shows (which have separate pages) or the rest of his website (which has a hideous labyrinth of nested character subpages). The page for the Nostalgia Critic's main "character" is on its own over 20,000 words long.
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Because they're mentally and emotionally stunted spergs who are still obsessed with their childhood infatuations, and that's the kind of stuff Doug Walker talks about. But why him? Of all the people who do these internet shows about childhood memories why is tvtropes mostly focus on him? Why doesn't tvtropes have this same fixation on James Rolfe? And more importantly why the hell are they acting like the Nostalgia Critic is all about this emotional character study of the title role and not about a guy making jokes about lovely children films? rjryan3 fucked around with this message at 03:42 on Mar 25, 2014 |
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rjryan3 posted:But why him? Of all the people who do these internet shows about childhood memories why is tvtropes mostly focus on him? Why doesn't tvtropes have this same fixation on James Rolfe? And more importantly why the hell are they acting like the Nostalgia Critic is all about this emotional character study of the title role and not about a guy making jokes about lovely children films? People think he's sexy and write pornographic fanfiction about him. I don't know why.
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