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Snowdens Secret posted:XR 650Rs aren't street legal (without non-trivial hassle, at least.) I wouldn't say a 750 Monster would be 'too much bike' but a fifteen-year-old one might (will) have some frighteningly expensive deferred maintenance. The owner of the Honda probably listed it wrong then, as the version they posted a picture of is the one with lights. I'm pretty sure it is street legal. I'll post the two listings when I get home. I figured the monster wasn't the best choice, but it was cheap enough that I'm tempted anyway.
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Snowdens Secret posted:I wouldn't say a 750 Monster would be 'too much bike' but a fifteen-year-old one might (will) have some frighteningly expensive deferred maintenance.
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Alright, here are the links to the bikes. The (sexy) Ducatie M750: http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/mcy/4385945863.html And the Honda XR 650: http://losangeles.craigslist.org/ant/mcy/4364033812.html It looks like the Honda has all the lights, so I just assumed it was a mislabeled XR 650L. http://losangeles.craigslist.org/ant/mcy/4364033812.html
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The XR 650 isn't street legal. Key indicators being it has no plate holder, and 'green sticker' meaning it's been registered as an off-road only vehicle: https://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/brochures/howto/htvr19.htm That Ducati has a healthy helping of Previous Owner Syndrome (key indicator, no loving front fender) and while it says the belts ($$$) were done 6k miles ago, it doesn't say when that was. It's an air-cooled 2-valve so being a 750 doesn't worry me (it is torquey) but lots of other things with that bike do. Just glancing at your CL, if I was looking for beginner bikes this SV650 jumps up: http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/mcy/4385557617.html I would undo that rear end lift and put real turn signals back on (and ideally have an LA goon or someone else knowledgeable look it over, some of those mods could be great, or more POS headaches.) That price can come down. Biggest problem I see is that if you're a tall dude the SV650S can be pretty cramped. There are two Ninja 250s that I saw but they're beat all to poo poo. E: here's a clean 250 and a groovy 500: http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/mcy/4385400948.html http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/mcy/4367961674.html Remember, you don't have to fall in love with your first bike, just get the basics down and resell it There's also this wonderful thing if it's near your budget. That'd be a keeper for more than just the first season: http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/mcy/4363097901.html
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KARMA! posted:Haha look at this baby. Yeah you would think the helmet would eliminate the drag caused by the parachutes he calls ears
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Mar 22, 2014 15:26
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The drag from my ears should be somewhat less than you big block head if you need something to compare it too.
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Just give you a feather to clutch on to and something faster than a 250 and I bet you could fly
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Green or red sticker in CA means offroad only. Go with something that wont cause you to hate yourself if you drop it. Buy a cheap 250, sv, or whatever.
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That Ninja 500 isn't bad. Maintenance coming up probably would be valves, and they're super easy to do yourself. (No shims!) The bike is bombproof and simple, and has enough power to still be enjoyable once you have some experience.
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Snowdens Secret posted:The XR 650 isn't street legal. Key indicators being it has no plate holder, and 'green sticker' meaning it's been registered as an off-road only vehicle: Alright. drat. quote:That Ducati has a healthy helping of Previous Owner Syndrome (key indicator, no loving front fender) and while it says the belts ($$$) were done 6k miles ago, it doesn't say when that was. It's an air-cooled 2-valve so being a 750 doesn't worry me (it is torquey) but lots of other things with that bike do. Fair enough. Maybe I'm being a little childish, but I'm really not interested in a Ninja or SV650. I was actually really hoping to get a DRZ or KLR. The Ducati was more of a fascination with the unique at a price that I would be happy to pay. I'm going to keep my eyes peeled for a supermoto or dualsport and hopefully one comes up in my price range. I would loving love that Husqy, but my absolute max is 3500, and I'd rather stay below 3 if possible. Edit I forgot to add this: I'm 6 feet tall, 200 pounds, and I have 34" legs. I realize I could still use a ninja or SV, but I'd honestly prefer something a little taller. I realize this is my first bike, not my last, but I still want something I appreciate aesthetically and can hope to use for years down the line, even though I plan on buying bigger bikes as well. Chichevache fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Mar 22, 2014 |
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I don't know how far you're willing to look, but this might be able to be talked down a couple hundred if you say you don't need some of the mods: http://wr250rforum.forumotion.com/t10204-fs-2008-wr250r-in-windsor-ca (you might need an account to see the want ads here, if you can't see it it's an 08 WR250R for 3800. Also it might not actually be in Cali). The WR is a solid beginner dual sport and would be plenty tall enough for you.
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Chichevache posted:Fair enough. Maybe I'm being a little childish, but I'm really not interested in a Ninja or SV650. I was actually really hoping to get a DRZ or KLR. The Ducati was more of a fascination with the unique at a price that I would be happy to pay. I'm going to keep my eyes peeled for a supermoto or dualsport and hopefully one comes up in my price range. I would loving love that Husqy, but my absolute max is 3500, and I'd rather stay below 3 if possible. That's fair. The little Ninjas and SVs get recommended because they fall in the Venn of "Cheap, common, good learner" more than pretty much anything else. KLRs aren't too far behind. Everything else that's inexpensive and good to learn on tends to show up a lot less often.
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Someone please give me a reason why I shouldn't buy a 2012 KTM 990 SMT. Because I can't find one.
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If you can't find one, how are you supposed to buy it?
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Snowdens Secret posted:If you can't find one, how are you supposed to buy it? He wants a reason to stop looking for one and to move on to something else.
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I can actually give an excellent reason not to buy one - the 1190 SM-T (if made) will be vastly superior, and while the 990 is a good bike, its a 625 -> 690 step all over again...the next one is going to be a dramatically better bike.
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What's good to pick up for a starter bike? (And why, as well) I'm hoping I can get away with $2000 or less, but I don't know jack. Anything easy to find in Australia is a plus, I suppose. And since I am looking to buy used, things to look out for or questions to ask potential sellers would also be good.
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Should be able to pick up a Ninja 250 for that. Um, CB400 might be a bit more, might be able to find one around that price. GS500 wouldn't be a bad idea either. Can't really think of any others around that price in Australia. CBR250s, etc. as well. Most other bikes you'll be looking at around $4,000.
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Snowdens Secret posted:If you can't find one, how are you supposed to buy it? I'm looking at one in a dealership right now. Someone put 2500 down two months ago and hasn't been back.
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Dead Pressed posted:I've been riding mopeds/scooters for about 7 years or so. Took the MSF, bought and flipped my first notable bike ('80 Honda CX 500 Deluxe) last year, which I found to be grossly undersized for my personal figure. Figured dual sport would be a fair re-entry to a "real bike" after my disappointment with the old Honda. Like other people have said, with the great on the highway/also good for trails thing, you are necessarily going to have to compromise on one of them. It sounds like one of those bigger dual purpose bikes (BMW GS, KTM Adventure 990) would be what you wanted, if it was just going to be one bike. I've not really priced those bigger bikes aside from passively noticing them on ADVRider's flea market, but I feel like you can almost get something like a KLR/DR650/XR650 for yourself and a street-only cruiser for two-up riding for the same price or only a bit more as one of those bigger ADV bikes. Actually, if you were going that route I'd probably get something more trail friendly as the solo bike, although the first thing that springs to mind is a DRZ400, which seemed tough to find for anything less than 4k in my area when I was looking on Craigslist, while the other bikes I mentioned weren't too hard to find for 2500-3000. Comfort is relative, my girlfriend and I do two-up trips all day on my XLR250, but I'm a bit shorter and a lot lighter than you (my GF is also pretty small), and speed limits where I live are pretty low. I've found that wearing bicycle shorts (the padding in the crotch really helps, as a dude it does make taking a leak a little more of a PITA though) makes a pretty big difference on longer rides. Shimrod posted:Should be able to pick up a Ninja 250 for that. Um, CB400 might be a bit more, might be able to find one around that price. GS500 wouldn't be a bad idea either. Can't really think of any others around that price in Australia. CBR250s, etc. as well. Most other bikes you'll be looking at around $4,000. What would a pre-08 KLR650 with a medium amount of kms in not-showroom condition run? That's probably what I'm gonna be looking for early next year.
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Isn't the limiting factor with the big adventure machines the tyres? Like, won't tyres that are decent offroad completely trash highway comfort and tarmac handling?
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Pompous Rhombus posted:What would a pre-08 KLR650 with a medium amount of kms in not-showroom condition run? That's probably what I'm gonna be looking for early next year. About four grand by the look of it. http://tinyurl.com/lcb2ovn https://www.bikesales.com.au pretty much has a monopoly on motorcycle sales in Australia. You can check gumtree.com.au as well but you're unlikely to find much that's not also on bikesales, at least in my experience.
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Does anyone knows much about new Honda CB1100? http://powersports.honda.com/2014/cb1100.aspx My local dealers still have 2013s sitting around and I can get a pretty good deal on one brand new. All I've ridden so far are cruisers, and not very good ones. Will be looking to take long interstate trips this summer, and having a brand new bike to eat up miles is a very tempting proposition.
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Now, speaking of the KLR: I'm going to Los Angeles in about a month to buy a bike and ride to New York, and I need to start looking at what I want. I'm going to be doing a lot of camping so I want a dual sport - I'm not a particularly experienced off-roader, I just want to be able to access remote areas, camp away from busy spots, etc. The most common dual sports in LA up for sale on craigslist seem to be the KLR and the Suzuki DR series, which is good, because I've sort of already set my heart on the KLR (never been on one but my first bike was a much-loved KLX250 and I have lingering brand loyalty). That's a good idea, right? edit - oh, and you know how I said bikesales.com.au had a monopoly in Australia; is there anywhere in the US I should be looking aside from craigslist and cycletrader.com?
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Limiting factor with the big machines is the weight. You feel every pound of a 1200GS when it's fallen over and pinned you.
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From a quick look, $3,000 to about $5,000, roughly. Check out Gumtree.com.au and Bikesales.com.au for a rough idea. Boostclassifieds.com.au is pretty good for price as well.
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freebooter posted:Now, speaking of the KLR: I'm going to Los Angeles in about a month to buy a bike and ride to New York, and I need to start looking at what I want. I'm going to be doing a lot of camping so I want a dual sport - I'm not a particularly experienced off-roader, I just want to be able to access remote areas, camp away from busy spots, etc. There are a million jillion zillion KLRs out there, they're dead simple and easy to fix. LA to New York, on the other hand, is like Sydney to Perth and halfway back. How long do you plan to spend on this trip? It's doable on a KLR, with the knowledge that you aren't going to be able to do much more than 400 miles on a good day, and that will be tiring. KLRs aren't fantastic for sitting on the interstate highways for long periods of time. If you're going to spend a couple of weeks and average less than 200 miles per day toodling around on local highways and some light unpaved trails, that's where the KLR will shine. Craigslist will be your best bet. I have no idea how registering a KLR as an Australian on vacation is going to work, though.
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I'm planning to spend about 4-5 weeks, pretty flexible. Staying off main highways as much as possible, and not trying to power through too many miles in a day, maybe four to six hours of riding a day? So the KLR sounds pretty good. I did Perth to Melbourne on a KLX 250 a few years ago, and while it's not an experience I'm keen to repeat, neither was it as bad as I thought it would be. I think I'll definitely want some kind of seat cushion for the America trip though. I found a guy on the ADV forums who used to be a vehicle dealer and helps out foreign tourists buying motorbikes all the time. He gave me a bunch of references and they all emailed back and confirmed he's on the level. I think you can register a bike as a tourist anyway as long as you have a friend willing to let you use their address, but it can't hurt to have a fixer make everything go smoothly.
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freebooter posted:I think I'll definitely want some kind of seat cushion for the America trip though. Yup. Safety Dance posted:Fortunately, the KLR enjoys a vigorous aftermarket. Your options are:
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freebooter posted:Now, speaking of the KLR: I'm going to Los Angeles in about a month to buy a bike and ride to New York, and I need to start looking at what I want. I'm going to be doing a lot of camping so I want a dual sport - I'm not a particularly experienced off-roader, I just want to be able to access remote areas, camp away from busy spots, etc. Los Angeles to New York on a KLR 650 sounds pretty murderous. I haven't ridden that bike, but I can't imagine doing that amount of highway traveling on anything short of a BMW/KTM 900cc+ adventure bike, some sort of sport tourer i.e. Kawi Concourse or a big Road King/Goldwing old man bike. I take it you're from Australia? I readily admit I have no idea how the status quo works on highways down there, but while you might think "US max interstate speed limit 70mph/110kph = doable on a 650" the reality is that you're going to spend a lot of miserable time at max RPM getting buffeted by big rigs cruising at speed and SUVs doing 90mph+. The KLR looks good for offroad camping and such, but unless you're planning on doing some serious dirt road exploring beyond the campsites within a couple miles off highways, the tradeoff isn't worth it. The vast majority of your riding time will be on endless asphalt ribbons. Personally, I'd rather ride those in comfort and deal with finessing a big bike on dirt for short distances. We Americans love to camp in luxury and have been doing so for some time - unless you're plotting spots on BLM maps, odds are you will be taking roads capable of supporting RVs or trailers to get to any campsite. Everything else will generally be fenced off with barbed wire and gated, and/or patrolled by Hick J. Owner.
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Safety Dance posted:Yup. Sweet, thanks. The Royal Nonesuch posted:Los Angeles to New York on a KLR 650 sounds pretty murderous. I haven't ridden that bike, but I can't imagine doing that amount of highway traveling on anything short of a BMW/KTM 900cc+ adventure bike, some sort of sport tourer i.e. Kawi Concourse or a big Road King/Goldwing old man bike. I take it you're from Australia? I readily admit I have no idea how the status quo works on highways down there, but while you might think "US max interstate speed limit 70mph/110kph = doable on a 650" the reality is that you're going to spend a lot of miserable time at max RPM getting buffeted by big rigs cruising at speed and SUVs doing 90mph+. It's kind of a trade-off with size, though. This is only anecdotal, but a friend of mine owned a BMW Dakar 650 and it was just too big for him. We have exactly the same body type, skinny and about 6 foot, but he was a bit fitter than me and still couldn't pick it up by himself after one of his numerous drops. After a pretty bad spill in Tasmania he admitted that he'd bitten off more than he could chew and the Dakar was too heavy and bulky for him to properly handle. I've been a bit wary of them since then, at least until I have more experience on a mid-size dual sport. My general plan is, as always with a long bike trip, to stay off highways and take backroads wherever possible. This might change a bit east of Texas where there's generally less wilderness/camping opportunities and I may just want to get to New York a bit faster. I'm not against a larger BMW or KTM or anything, but I think a lot of it will simply be dictated by what's available on craigslist when I show up. There are shitloads of KLRs and DRZs but BMWs and KTMs are a bit rarer. Also I should probably mention that the only bikes I've ever owned are a KLX250 and a Triumph Bonneville which had custom handlebars with a leaning-forward riding position. Neither was comfy for long-distance rides, but I did both on both, and I figure any kind of larger bike will probably be more comfortable than either of them.
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There's a handy video on YouTube that shows you how to lift a motorcycle, I'm 6"1 and skinny as a rake and I can life my Dads VF1000F with no troubles. It's more technique than anything. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ6_2VqSHBw Not the video I was thinking of, but same thing. Shimrod fucked around with this message at 09:04 on Mar 24, 2014 |
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The Royal Nonesuch posted:Los Angeles to New York on a KLR 650 sounds pretty murderous. I haven't ridden that bike... 
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But KLR's suck for you see z3n said so and furthermore they are dumb owing to the...
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Four For driving over kittens by camerazn, on Flickr Twenty  Buy  KLRs  Erry  Day 
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I'm looking for a good starter bike right now and I am really interested in dual sports. Does anyone have a good recommendation?
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Safety Dance posted:Twenty ...and here we see the wild KLR owner in his natural habitat, laying in the dirt. Though you may think he is screaming in pain at his broken leg, that is actually his elaborate mating ritual, designed to attract a mate from as long away as possible.
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Safety Dance posted:Four Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter
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Nitrox posted:Does anyone knows much about new Honda CB1100? http://powersports.honda.com/2014/cb1100.aspx I know they are beautiful, very high build quality, and expensive. They'd be on my short list if the price was right though.
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