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nucosmos just spends a really weird portion of its run time on stupid minutiae whenever they go into cartoon history mode, then they completely gloss over actual cool poo poo. I'm not saying that the history of fish factoid isnt amusing, but they keep going back to it, its so loving odd the way this show is written and how they dole out time. Its bad in the opposite way I expected it to be.
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i think one of the really scary parts about the co-opting of the scientific method by the atheist movement is how it's starting to spread into fields where it really isn't applicable because atheists think that science is the be-all and end-all of human thought and achievement like, there are good studies coming out now that a lot of psychological concepts are egregiously flawed because they operated from the assumption that human cognition and decision making is universal after conducting studies exclusively on western subjects they were treating psychology like physics
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Mar 24, 2014 21:24
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and bad science is solely caused by atheist influence, you see.
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Mar 24, 2014 21:26
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the atheist influence certainly doesn't help
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Mar 24, 2014 21:29
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neither does magical thinking, but that doesn't really fit your narrative, does it. perhaps you could compile a list of things that do not help bad science, in the interest of fairness, so that it doesn't look like you're just bagging on atheism to be edgy or something
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Mar 24, 2014 21:33
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Stymie posted:like, there are good studies coming out now that a lot of psychological concepts are egregiously flawed because they operated from the assumption that human cognition and decision making is universal after conducting studies exclusively on western subjects lol yes this is something that is a) tied to internet atheists and b) new
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Mar 24, 2014 21:34
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why do people feel so strongly about their beliefs/non-beliefs in god it's like internet fanboys but worse
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Mar 24, 2014 21:36
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ol qwerty bastard posted:why do people feel so strongly about their beliefs/non-beliefs in god why do people feel so strongly about other people's beliefs/non-beliefs in god? why is stymie so obsessed with being an edgy contrarian that he posts things even he knows are loving ridiculous? questions for the ages, surely.
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Mar 24, 2014 21:38
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all of the animated segments are really bad and provide information that is irrelevant to the narrative of the episode everybody that knows anything about newton already knew all of the information presented in episode 3. the lower information audience doesn't benefit from learning that an autistic professor had a hard time getting his book published because of the politics of the 17th century when the hour is nominally about the motion of comets and planets. there are a lot of recent discoveries that are more interesting and they would lend themselves to neil getting a chance to actually explain why modern science is important like, a 20 minute segment about horseshoe orbits and lagrangian points could have been more interesting to the general audience and would have been a neat little effect for the imagination spaceship and a segment about the oort cloud could mention that some alien assholes launched gliese 710 at the solar system to shoot a bunch of comets at us so we'd better get our collective asses in gear and get some robot water harvesters to stockpile some fuel for us so we can start thinking about colonizing a couple of backup planets
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Mar 24, 2014 21:39
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Mar 24, 2014 21:41
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More recent calculations by Bobylev in 2010 suggest Gliese 710 has an 86% chance of passing through the Oort butt, considering the Oort butt to be a spheroid around the Sun with semiminor and semimajor axes of 80,000 and 100,000 astronomical units.
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Mar 24, 2014 21:55
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infernal machines posted:neither does magical thinking, but that doesn't really fit your narrative, does it. things that do not help bad science: 1) false dichotomies (e.g. between atheism and "magical thinking")
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Mar 24, 2014 21:57
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kyrie eleison alt account detected
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Mar 24, 2014 22:00
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there's no dichotomy implied you dingus. you're just making up terrible arguments all over the place today. put some effort into it, geez
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Mar 24, 2014 22:01
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i think one of my favorite things about atheists when they get defensive is that they automatically assume the people arguing against their brand of atheism are religious
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Mar 24, 2014 22:05
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nobody is feeding your tired re-used debate hooks. go outside
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Mar 24, 2014 22:06
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i can't i'm at work
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Mar 24, 2014 22:09
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well then be a more interesting troll.
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Mar 24, 2014 22:12
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sometimes the truth isn't interesting but it remains the truth
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Mar 24, 2014 22:14
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that is both true and uninteresting, also completely unrelated to whatever point you thought you were making about atheists and science
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Mar 24, 2014 22:15
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here's a quick summation of my point for those who can't understand: carl sagan was not an atheist atheism and science are not inextricably linked advancing atheism through science advocacy is wrong
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Mar 24, 2014 22:19
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lol jesus christ youf uckers
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Mar 24, 2014 22:19
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i dont understand what this argument is about. the atheism stuff in nucosmos is very bad that shouldn't be controversial
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Mar 24, 2014 22:20
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angry_keebler posted:new cosmos 3 synopsis so stymie can have his fake outrage posts: y'all were even warned and now you've let him puppet master his anime dog tits hand right up your rear end
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Mar 24, 2014 22:20
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Cocoa Crispies posted:y'all were even warned and now you've let him puppet master his anime dog tits hand right up your rear end lol what? he just spent an hour arguing against a point no one made. he's basically been posting to himself for a page an a half. it's not sci-fi or funy computer though, so there's that
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Mar 24, 2014 22:22
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ahahaha yes i am arguing against a point nobody made, guy who unironically used the phrase "magical thinking"
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Mar 24, 2014 22:30
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speaking of sci-fi, does anyone still publish good yearly short story anthologies? i have a bunch of random old ones and it just occurred to me i haven't seen any since like the 90s
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Mar 24, 2014 22:31
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Cocoa Crispies posted:lol jesus christ youf uckers seriously what the hell people
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Mar 24, 2014 22:40
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does anyone have any good sci-fi anthologies they'd recommend? i've read both of harlan ellison's Dangerous Visions anthologies, something along those lines would be rad
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Mar 24, 2014 22:51
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Trig Discipline posted:seriously what the hell people what? let him get it out of his system, until someone mentions cosmos again next week.
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Mar 24, 2014 22:55
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i think i might have to stop reading Red Mars (i'm 80% of the way through, Frank has just found out just how many people are mass disappearing) while i find it interesting i'm resonating with frank way too goddamn much. the empty way he feels, the way he responds to his gf, his lack of (aware) self-determination
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Mar 24, 2014 23:00
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quote:Suddenly he was afraid: they were their pasts, they had to be or they were nothing at all, and whatever they felt or thought or said in the present was nothing more than an echo of the past; and so when they said what they said, how could they know what their deeper minds were really feeling, thinking, saying? They didn't know, not really. Relationships were for that reason utterly mysterious; they took place between two subconscious minds, and whatever the surface trickle thought was going on could not be trusted to be right.
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Mar 24, 2014 23:06
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AlsoD posted:i think i might have to stop reading Red Mars (i'm 80% of the way through, Frank has just found out just how many people are mass disappearing) this is why i haven't yet got through a scanner darkly was trying to quit smoking and fred/bob's problem was mirroring the ongoing fracturing and dissociation of my own brain we've identified substance d irl, and it's one of the most addictive and deadly drugs and yet they sell it in drugstores, kwik-e-marts and groceries wth, actual dystopia
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Mar 24, 2014 23:11
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syscall girl posted:we've identified substance d irl *points to dilznick*
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Mar 24, 2014 23:22
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infernal machines posted:what? let him get it out of his system, until someone mentions cosmos again next week. this is stymie. it is never out of his system.
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Mar 24, 2014 23:25
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Trig Discipline posted:this is stymie. it is never out of his system. no kidding. he just started an argument with himself because no one disagreed when he said that new cosmos shouldn't be pushing a worldview/religion bashing. it think if he were left alone long enough he'd just meltdown on himself
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Mar 24, 2014 23:30
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MANIFEST DESTINY posted:nucosmos just spends a really weird portion of its run time on stupid minutiae whenever they go into cartoon history mode, then they completely gloss over actual cool poo poo. I'm not saying that the history of fish factoid isnt amusing, but they keep going back to it, its so loving odd the way this show is written and how they dole out time. Its bad in the opposite way I expected it to be. nice post. here are a few hundred fishbooks as payment
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Mar 24, 2014 23:46
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syscall girl posted:this is why i haven't yet got through a scanner darkly you should probably change your avatar
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Mar 24, 2014 23:47
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infernal machines posted:
why don't you fools give it a shot
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for reals tho Wonders of the Universe w/ Brian Cox is way better at cosmos than nucosmos
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