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Gonzo McFee posted:That was a god damned Screw job and you know it, Mick Foley never tapped out! I heard him submit.
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Gavok posted:Is there any truth that Hogan insisted Michaels turn heel for the angle just to keep the crowd from having to choose? He turned heel specifically for that match and the night after Summerslam he cut a promo that was basically, "Whatever, Hogan's gone and I'm face again. Just go with it." However it came to be, it was all worth it for that amazing HBK promo in Montreal. I watched that one over and over again
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Mar 24, 2014 21:51
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I wish someone would bust out the ring post figure four. That move made me lose my mind in 1997.
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Mar 24, 2014 21:58
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Gavok posted:Is there any truth that Hogan insisted Michaels turn heel for the angle just to keep the crowd from having to choose? He turned heel specifically for that match and the night after Summerslam he cut a promo that was basically, "Whatever, Hogan's gone and I'm face again. Just go with it." I don't remember reading that, although I think what Shawn did the next night was mostly his own idea.
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Mar 24, 2014 22:01
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natetimm posted:He changes his voice fairly significantly when he does promos. Maybe he's focusing too hard on grunting out his steroid-fueled old lady voice instead of what he's actually saying. This reminds me of the Road Warriors getting into their character voices by yelling the names of STDs in that Behind the Bash video.
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Mar 24, 2014 22:13
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Tyma posted:At which point between announcing the match, and The Outsiders running to the ring to beat him down post-match was it actually decided that Hulk Hogan was leaving Wrestlemania X8 as a babyface? I hope this question doesn't get lost in the shuffle; my understanding of it is that Hall and Nash were supposed to come down to do an NWO beatdown on Rock, but Hogan was getting such amazing crowd reactions that someone called an audible either just before they went down to the ring, or actually in the ring. I could be wrong about that, but I doubt very much it was planned. No one could have thought the crowd would react the way they did. Network link for the show: http://network.wwe.com/video/v31356687
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ABOUT DRUGS posted:The Hogan/Michaels thing is interesting for being a battle of the two biggest egotistical powerplayers fighting over backstage politics, but ultimately I don't see any reason to pass further judgment on it. If we were only getting one match from those two, I'm glad it turned out that way. The match is entertaining and hilarious and I'm not convinced that Shawn being "professional" would have improved upon it. That's my thought as well: both HBK and Hogan were being egotistical dicks over this whole angle (old habits evidently came back) and what we got is what we got and I doubt anything better (in a smooth and logical sense) could have happened under those conditions. Let's just enjoy HBK flopping and flipping around like an electrocuted fish and the Montreal promo before that.
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Mar 24, 2014 23:02
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Jayou posted:I seem to remember someone from here christened the move "FIIST" - gently caress it, its submission time. As it always felt so random whenever he busted it out. No, FIIST was the weird inverted Figure 4 that Shawn used leading up to, I think, Breaking Point?
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Mar 24, 2014 23:19
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what are some more theme songs that are like booker t/ddp/kanyon/new age outlaws that start with the wrestler saying their trademark then the song hits?
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a cat youtube posted:what are some more theme songs that are like booker t/ddp/kanyon/new age outlaws that start with the wrestler saying their trademark then the song hits? Like half of them in the WWE
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Mar 24, 2014 23:28
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a cat youtube posted:what are some more theme songs that are like booker t/ddp/kanyon/new age outlaws that start with the wrestler saying their trademark then the song hits? Bam... bam! It's time! It's time! It's Vader time! If WWE2k14 is to be believed, Jake's got a new(?) variant of his theme that starts with "Never trust a snake".
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Mar 24, 2014 23:33
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There used to be a Last Call with Scott Hall video online where Hall and Sean Waltman were watching Hogan-Michaels and doing live commentary. Waltman starts laughing at Michaels overselling and says "Do you think Hulk has any idea what's going on right now?". And Hall comments that Shawn would do crazy overselling to make the audience know that he was the star of the show, and not his opponent. EDIT: Here's the video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvDnqcwflyg
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Mar 24, 2014 23:38
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IF YOU SMEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLL.....
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Mar 24, 2014 23:39
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Miz Finlay
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a cat youtube posted:what are some more theme songs that are like booker t/ddp/kanyon/new age outlaws that start with the wrestler saying their trademark then the song hits? Wouldn't it be easier to list the ones that don't?
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Mar 24, 2014 23:42
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Shima Honnou posted:Bam... bam! To be fair, Jake did have a version when he was active that had the 'Trust me' catchphrase looping through it.
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Mar 24, 2014 23:44
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Well, enough is enough and it's time for a change!
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Mar 24, 2014 23:47
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Gaz-L posted:To be fair, Jake did have a version when he was active that had the 'Trust me' catchphrase looping through it. Is that like the NWO versions of themes that would just have that lovely voice effect going "new. world. order." all through it
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Mar 24, 2014 23:57
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Gaz-L posted:To be fair, Jake did have a version when he was active that had the 'Trust me' catchphrase looping through it. The "trust me... trust me... trust me..." at the start led to my favorite Macho-Man-on-commentary lines. "No, I WON'T trust you, Jake the Snake Roberts!"
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Mar 25, 2014 01:08
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Can someone remind me why Earl Hebner and his brother were fired again? At the time they were the most popular refs in the WWE. I seem to remember something about tshirts? Also, why is Brian Hebner no longer with WWE? Are Hebner's pretty much no longer welcome?
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Mar 25, 2014 01:28
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They were embezzling merch and selling it on the side or something
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epitasis posted:They were embezzling merch and selling it on the side or something They owned a business in St.Louis and were selling WWE merch out of it without authorization.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:They owned a business in St.Louis and were selling WWE merch out of it without authorization. Yup, then Earl Hebner was in TNA (of course) for a while in a fairly prominent role (again, of course) and I don't know where he is now. He got fired from WWE in 2005ish if I recall.
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Didn't Gregory Helms have one that was just him shouting "GREGORY HELMS"?
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Iskanderson posted:Didn't Gregory Helms have one that was just him shouting "GREGORY HELMS"? Maybe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=178vKD6eBNQ
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Mar 25, 2014 02:41
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Who did the 'pouring beer down an alcoholics throat' first?
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harley posted:Who did the 'pouring beer down an alcoholics throat' first? Scott Hall did it for years
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Justin Godscock posted:Yup, then Earl Hebner was in TNA (of course) for a while in a fairly prominent role (again, of course) and I don't know where he is now. He got fired from WWE in 2005ish if I recall. Earl Hebner is still ancient and still taking ref bumps in TNA.
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Mar 25, 2014 04:13
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Earl "I'm going to slow count the decisive pinfall in a big huge match" Hebner is a horribly overrated ref. There, I said it.
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Mar 25, 2014 04:39
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harley posted:Who did the 'pouring beer down an alcoholics throat' first? 8:00 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1fhM5nu13Y
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Mar 25, 2014 04:40
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Lawler used real alcohol on Jake, which is pretty heelish considering that it's Jake.
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TL posted:Earl "I'm going to slow count the decisive pinfall in a big huge match" Hebner is a horribly overrated ref. There, I said it. Hebner also whines and carries on and interjects himself into matches constantly. He's actually the worst ref I can think of, let alone overrated.
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I always liked the ECW fast ref counts better. It left less time to overthink whether something was really a match ender or not.
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DeathChicken posted:I always liked the ECW fast ref counts better. It left less time to overthink whether something was really a match ender or not. I am watching Guilty as Charged right now and I am not even sure when a match has started and when it is a post-match beatdown that will arbitrarily be made into a match. And sometimes the referee randomly becomes a different person, who cuts a promo and then is attacked by a run-in, who then is ref.
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Mar 25, 2014 05:20
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Memento posted:I hope this question doesn't get lost in the shuffle; my understanding of it is that Hall and Nash were supposed to come down to do an NWO beatdown on Rock, but Hogan was getting such amazing crowd reactions that someone called an audible either just before they went down to the ring, or actually in the ring. I could be wrong about that, but I doubt very much it was planned. No one could have thought the crowd would react the way they did. According to Hall and Nash, the change of plans happened the night of Wrestlemania. Hall was especially angry about the whole angle, because he was apparently going to win over Austin that night, on top of being forced to work twice as long as he initially agreed to do(20+ days a month instead of 10). I don't know how much of this is actually true, but considering it's Vince and how he handled the Invasion, I wouldn't put it past him to do this.
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The year after Benoit's death they tried to reclaim the Crossface from him by giving it to HBK, Triple H, and even Khali in a match or two. I distinctly remember JR yelling "It's the Crip-- the Crossface! It's the Crossface!"  Was there ever any reason given for why the brand split just sort of stopped being exclusive around the 2011 Royal Rumble? I remember by the time the Draft came around it didn't seem to matter because everyone was already showing up everywhere for months. sticklefifer fucked around with this message at 08:21 on Mar 25, 2014 |
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How was Savage perceived on commentary? And how did he not hurt himself doing the Macho Man voice all show?
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It'd be sweet if they gave the crossface to Ambrose. That might be drawing too many parallels, though. Has Bryan ever won a match with the Cattle Mutilation in WWE? Frankenstein Dad fucked around with this message at 10:51 on Mar 25, 2014 |
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I just noticed something... when was the last time Cena did the Throwback and the Fisherman Suplex? Because both used to be in his moveset but I can't recall having seen them in potentially years. I mean maybe he dropped the Fisherman for Curtis, but I can't see why a jumping neckbreaker would be dropped beyond maybe losing the mobility to do it.
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By all accounts, Savage always did the Savage voice. If you were just talking to him it was "Ooh yeah I gotta see this."
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