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The pilots have been crucified in the press and chances are that they spent their last moments on earth trying to save that plane.
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bonestructure posted:The pilots have been crucified in the press and chances are that they spent their last moments on earth trying to save that plane. Welcome to the media circus.
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Mar 25, 2014 01:32
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bonestructure posted:The pilots have been crucified in the press and chances are that they spent their last moments on earth trying to save that plane. Yeah but they had funny sounding Muslim names so who cares
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Mar 25, 2014 01:42
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I can't loving understand why they are choosing to handle it this way. At least wait until they can share the data that explains how they can come to this conclusion. Right now they are basically saying "hey brah chill, look that plane crashed, i got sources trust me brao" combined with how absolutely loving hilariously bad they handled the whole investigation to begin with........it's no wonder people are not believing it.
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Mar 25, 2014 02:32
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Dumb question: if there were some type of electrical fire would decompressing at 45k feet slow the fire? Or do people have a lot higher minimum oxygen level than a fire and fire does not care? The climb to 45k had to be intentional from what I've learned I think anyway. Captain decompresses/climbs to kill fire hopes everyone will be OK on oxygen masks for a bit but fire or smoke or low o2 kills everyone? (Or fire kills all comms and most controls and everyone's alive for their trip to the ocean) Vin BioEthanol fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Mar 25, 2014 |
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Mar 25, 2014 02:52
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Vin BioEthanol posted:Dumb question: if there were some type of electrical fire would decompressing at 45k feet slow the fire? Or do people have a lot higher minimum oxygen level than a fire and fire does not care? the climb to 45k may also not have happened at all due to uncertainty in the military radar. and i'd assume an experienced pilot would know whether or not a certain altitude would kill people.
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Mar 25, 2014 03:00
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The biggest mystery is why they went to the southern Indian ocean. What was the motive in going there? Maybe they were looking for that secret island in Dazed and Confused and kept going: http://imgur.com/zcnZGHt,ohhxe80,P6YhV5W#2 Because there is no other drat reason to go there. It doesn't matter how nutty a hijacker is, they just wouldn't head there.
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Mar 25, 2014 03:03
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What happened was the reverse of the Air France flight, the pilot was constantly pushing the stick forward which somehow made the plane fly up up up and now it's cruising around space.
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Mar 25, 2014 03:04
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ApexAftermath posted:I can't loving understand why they are choosing to handle it this way. At least wait until they can share the data that explains how they can come to this conclusion. Right now they are basically saying "hey brah chill, look that plane crashed, i got sources trust me brao" combined with how absolutely loving hilariously bad they handled the whole investigation to begin with........it's no wonder people are not believing it. Take a hit to your perceived competence now by giving up, and then one more time when they find 200 people loving on top of a pile of luggage on a deserted island vs. getting poo poo on continuously for the next 2 years as you continue to fail at everything. It's basically "We're sticking to one story because if we're wrong we're only wrong once". Tiny Timbs fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Mar 25, 2014 |
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Mar 25, 2014 03:13
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toe knee hand posted:
Fire has hosed up lots of things and this is the last chance effort he knows they'll be able to survive for a certain amount of time on oxygen masks, is it plausible? Could he have done that to try and kill a fire that had already knocked out all comms except the engine's transponders?
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Mar 25, 2014 03:26
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Vin BioEthanol posted:Fire has hosed up lots of things and this is the last chance effort he knows they'll be able to survive for a certain amount of time on oxygen masks, is it plausible? Could he have done that to try and kill a fire that had already knocked out all comms except the engine's transponders? sounds unlikely. more likely the military radar was wrong, no? that doesn't mean there wasn't a fire or some sort of equipment failure, just that the elevation gain which may not have even happened at all makes very little sense in any potential scenario.
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Mar 25, 2014 03:29
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how loving lovely is that radar "hey he climbed to 45,000 ft! woops now he's at -11,000 ft! now he's at NaN!"
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Mar 25, 2014 03:35
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Fallom posted:how loving lovely is that radar p much now you know if you ever want to invade southeast asia
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Mar 25, 2014 03:49
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Fallom posted:how loving lovely is that radar How loving lovely is all that tech from the 70s? I loved how hypothetical locations of that plane changed like the back and forth offers on Pawn Stars and now suddenly they're cutting it off like "ok gently caress it your loved ones are dead you have 15 minutes to get out of our hotel since we have a formula one event coming up sorry kthxbye". This would have been WAY more believable if they'd investigated one lead for a week or two at that point, but those leads changed every five minutes. Plus there are less tone deaf ways of dealing with the friends and relatives. Don't send a text message, fully explain your reasoning, address the need for further investigations and so on. I'm not going to consider using Malaysian airlines or going to that country for the next 20 years or so and I'm sure others won't either.
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Mar 25, 2014 03:52
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Zogo posted:I'm holding out hope that the pilots created a solar powered plane and it's still flying around. They're going to land in a few weeks to praise and adulation: Because when it crashes you've now spread radioactive materials over a couple square miles. The US already almost nuked itself in the 60s and was prevented from doing so by a single electrical switch that cost less than ten bucks. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/08/eric-schlosser-command-control-excerpt-nuclear-weapons
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Mar 25, 2014 03:57
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flavor posted:I'm not going to consider using Malaysian airlines or going to that country for the next 20 years or so and I'm sure others won't either. yea other countries are p much terrible you should just never leave the US that'll be better for
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Mar 25, 2014 03:57
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Fallom posted:how loving lovely is that radar He's all over the place! Nine hundred feet up to 1300 feet. What an rear end in a top hat!
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Mar 25, 2014 03:59
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toe knee hand posted:yea other countries are p much terrible you should just never leave the US that'll be better for You have no idea what country I'm from and what countries I'm visiting, you SJW.
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Mar 25, 2014 03:59
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Vin BioEthanol posted:Dumb question: if there were some type of electrical fire would decompressing at 45k feet slow the fire? Or do people have a lot higher minimum oxygen level than a fire and fire does not care? Low oxygen environs typically put out a fire before it knocks out a person, but if it's an electrical fire coming back to normal oxygen would possibly allow it to reignite if the electricity wasn't cut off, or if the fire had an oxidizer other than atmospheric air.
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Mar 25, 2014 04:00
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flavor posted:you SJW. 
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Mar 25, 2014 04:03
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literally everyone with some position of authority or technical expertise has basically attempted to show competency while actually just coming off looking like idiots its supremely hilarious in a way.
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Mar 25, 2014 04:06
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Well, you've been projecting your bullshit on me, so...
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Mar 25, 2014 04:07
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toe knee hand posted:now you know if you ever want to invade southeast asia yeah let's just file that under useful information
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Mar 25, 2014 04:07
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feel good event of the season
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Mar 25, 2014 04:08
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toe knee hand posted:p much John McCain still managed to get shot down
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Mar 25, 2014 04:24
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Zogo posted:PS why don't we have nuclear powered/solar powered planes anyway? We have nuke submarines but nuclear planes would be a lot cleaner and could fly in perpetuity. great idea let's have a nuclear powered ghost plane flying around the earth forever until it crashes in to some other nuclear plane and irradiates everyone for miles
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Mar 25, 2014 04:31
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Bubble-T posted:great idea let's have a nuclear powered ghost plane flying around the earth forever until it crashes in to some other nuclear plane and irradiates everyone for miles carbon neutral. But seriously if this radiation thing ever did get out of hand we could have nuclear powered other aircraft with big nets to catch the ghost planes and haul them up to space before they became a problem.
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Mar 25, 2014 04:47
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Okay so Malaysia said they're dead. This means what? The people who know what they're doing aren't going to stop, I would hope. I'm hoping this is just Malaysia saying, "gently caress it, we're out."
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Mar 25, 2014 05:21
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Party Plane Jones posted:Because when it crashes you've now spread radioactive materials over a couple square miles. Bubble-T posted:great idea let's have a nuclear powered ghost plane flying around the earth forever until it crashes in to some other nuclear plane and irradiates everyone for miles How much damage would be done compared to that of a nuclear power plant meltdown as recently happened in Japan? I have to wonder how long a plane could fly with nuclear power without making a pit stop.
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Mar 25, 2014 05:23
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Disconnecticus posted:Okay so Malaysia said they're dead. This means what? The people who know what they're doing aren't going to stop, I would hope. Searching can continue, but it is less urgent. It is a recovery mission, not a rescue mission. Mainly it seems to be telling the families to give up hope. Daddy isn't coming home. Hold your memorial services and get on with your lives. Also probably for legal purposes. If they are legally declared dead you can start collecting life insurance payouts. Widow's pensions. That sort of thing.
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Mar 25, 2014 05:28
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What the gently caress is it with the Malaysian Press and flashbulbs
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Mar 25, 2014 05:30
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*small asian man walks by in background wearing a duster, flash bulb pops and reflects off the press card tucked into his hat band*
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Mar 25, 2014 05:31
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Malaysian dudes just said they announced it via SMS to make sure that the families would get it from them instead of anyone else. Elphiem posted:The biggest mystery is why they went to the southern Indian ocean. What was the motive in going there? The likely scenario is that there was an on board fire, the pilots turned the plane southwest to head back to Malaysia, and then the pilots became incapacitated and the plane just kept flying on
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Mar 25, 2014 05:36
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bonestructure posted:The pilots have been crucified in the press and chances are that they spent their last moments on earth trying to save that plane. someone must be sacrificed for the sake of the masses
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Mar 25, 2014 05:38
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And default ringtones / text chimes that should be on mute. Total loving B team over there.
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Mar 25, 2014 05:54
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least surprising development thus far: it crashed into the ocean somewhere
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Mar 25, 2014 05:59
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I'd like to thank the news media for pushing conspiracy theories for weeks instead of listening to rather plausible theories by actual pilots as to what had probably happened.
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Mar 25, 2014 06:01
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Did the Indian ocean try to rape the plane?
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Mar 25, 2014 06:03
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Like a single white girl who fell down the well, also with tons of asians.
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Evil_Greven posted:I'd like to thank the news media for pushing conspiracy theories for weeks instead of listening to rather plausible theories by actual pilots as to what had probably happened. From a friend that flies for NorthWest: quote:Watched news of the Malaysia Air disappearance .... Has anyone considered the ELT's being activated? (Emergency locator transmitters). You cannot deactivate them from the cockpit , and they are set off due to hard impacts with ground or water. If the plane crashed these would have gone of and you could locate the wreckage .
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