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How soon is too soon to follow up on an application? I submitted a job application online on Saturday, how long should I give them before I give them a call asking about it? I would really like this job but I don't want to sound desperate. I was thinking about trying to contact them this Friday since I have a chance to call them during business hours without running the risk of getting caught doing so by my current job. Or is calling on a Friday afternoon not going to get me anywhere because they'll put it on their "to do" pile for Monday and never get to it?
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Mar 18, 2014 03:58
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I've been applying for jobs off and on for the last two years or so now, and haven't had much luck with my current resume. Could one of the smarty pants resume reviewers here take a look over it, see if there's anything I'm doing extremely wrong? I've tried to update it in accordance with some of the suggestions in this thread, but I am pretty loving stupid so I probably screwed something up. Here's a link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/dx54x42txialbdo/elderpostsman_resume.doc Also, if I have some little side projects that aren't related to my current position, where should those go, if they should be on here at all? Thanks!
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Mar 18, 2014 05:02
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Elder Postsman posted:I've been applying for jobs off and on for the last two years or so now, and haven't had much luck with my current resume. Could one of the smarty pants resume reviewers here take a look over it, see if there's anything I'm doing extremely wrong? I've tried to update it in accordance with some of the suggestions in this thread, but I am pretty loving stupid so I probably screwed something up. Here's a link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/dx54x42txialbdo/elderpostsman_resume.doc 
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Mar 18, 2014 07:58
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Unfortunately I found this forum after a phone screening for a job I really want and saw ways I can improve my resume. Is it poor form to adjust my resume in between the screen and the face to face interview? Not change anything as far as history but just enhance it giving my accomplishments rather then I worked at place the_american_dream fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Mar 18, 2014 |
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Mar 18, 2014 14:33
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You can, but many interviewers will have it already printed out. The purpose of the resume is to get you the interview.
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Mar 18, 2014 14:47
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Oh right no doubt they've seen it already but I figured since I was asked to bring copies anyway I could update it
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Mar 18, 2014 14:57
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Wow, thanks. I guess I have a lot of work to do on this.
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Mar 18, 2014 15:39
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Jesus Christ, I hate writing cover letters.
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Mar 19, 2014 01:25
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YF19pilot posted:There weren't too many specifics discussed at this interview. Like, I know the position is CAD work, but not what I will be designing (obviously I know what the company makes, their main product, but how will my work tie into that, I don't know). The company uses a kind of "in-house outsourced" staffing agency (the staffing agency's HQ is actually inside the company's HQ), and this interview was with their recruiter, more or less. (Basic goal of this interview was to prove that I was a functional human being, and could reliably show up to work on time in proper attire, pretty much). Though the interviewer did mention about the position/department growing, so maybe taking a bit from what you said to say something like "I was glad to talk with you about Company expanding their department. I'm excited to move forward in the process and to potentially be part of an industry leading team that is growing." Yes to the first part - that sounds fine and hopefully is what you sent. Literally mentioning anything you talked about immediately sets you apart. For the second part, yes again on your intuition - it would come across as naive. While it's cool and is something you could mention after you started, I wouldn't say it before the offer stage.
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Mar 20, 2014 04:36
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Is it bad to apply to a job at like 2am?
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Mar 20, 2014 05:11
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Halloween Jack posted:Jesus Christ, I hate writing cover letters. Tell me about it, I've had total writer's block now for at least two weeks.
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Mar 20, 2014 07:29
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the posted:Is it bad to apply to a job at like 2am? Depends on who will receive it, I suppose. If it's going through layers of bureaucracy before it gets to anyone who will actually evaluate it probably makes no difference. But why not just get up early and complete it at a more normal time, just in case.
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Mar 20, 2014 07:49
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I have a few quick questions; A year ago I interviewed with this organization for an assistant job and one of the questions I was asked was "what are three traits you like in a manager and what are three traits you dislike?" She said this was so they knew who best to pair people off with, but I'm also wondering if this is a way to identify flaws in a candidate? Am I reading too much into this? Reason I ask is because I applied for a different job but with the same organization, one that matches my skillset better and now I have more experience as well, I'm wondering if the same question comes up again what the appropriate answer is? Also if I am interviewed by the same person should I acknowledge that she interviewed me a year ago for a different job? I feel like being able to show I can remember those details are good, but acknowledging that I was a candidate they previously turned down might be bad unless I can spin it by saying something along the lines of "The position I'm interviewing for now is a better match for what my skillset is, not to mention over the past year I've acquired a far greater amount of experience within this field."
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Mar 20, 2014 17:30
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Can you go wrong with organisation, decisiveness, fairness and then the opposites?
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Mar 20, 2014 18:16
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the_american_dream posted:Is it poor form to adjust my resume in between the screen and the face to face interview? Not change anything as far as history but just enhance it giving my accomplishments rather then I worked at place Bring copies to the face-to-face. They'll have read (at least skimmed) the old version. Just say "here's the up to date version". They know you're job hunting, and will probably appreciate clarification or expanding on roles in the resume after your phone screen.
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Mar 20, 2014 19:35
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Xanderg posted:I have a few quick questions; I think being direct and stating your preference is what is ultimately the right idea here. Remember, you're not desperate for a job and you're interviewing the place too. You should be able to walk in proud and excited on the first day. Re: mentioning you were a reject, it will look super odd if it is the same person and you don't mention it. I'd just say something like "Oh, hi again - I interviewed with you a year ago for the Chocolate Teapot Apprentice job and you were right that it wasn't a fit for me at the time - I think this new role is exactly in line with where my strengths lie". While most of us interview lots of people, we will probably remember you if you came in for an in-person interview. If you had just done phone screens, you could probably have gotten away with it, but not if it's the same person in person again.
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Mar 21, 2014 01:05
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Right, so I'm currently in the waiting game. Had my interview Wednesday and that went very well. Good enough for the hiring manager to lay down the process to me and tell me I'll be interviewing next with next in line. So yesterday I get the call from the recruiter but was unable to pick up (was at my desk at the current job) no vm left. I called back about an hour later then 3 hours after that leaving a vm. Unfortunately I still haven't heard back and I was really hoping to schedule something today since i had a half day or Monday when I'll be off and it's not the easiest process getting time off. Is it appropriate sending a follow up email at this point or just be patient like a big boy?
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Mar 21, 2014 19:25
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the_american_dream posted:Right, so I'm currently in the waiting game. Had my interview Wednesday and that went very well. Good enough for the hiring manager to lay down the process to me and tell me I'll be interviewing next with next in line. Suck it up; there's no way they can throw together an interview with under 1 business days' notice unless they are desperate to hire you.
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Mar 22, 2014 00:54
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Bisty Q. posted:Suck it up; there's no way they can throw together an interview with under 1 business days' notice unless they are desperate to hire you. Yea good point and I managed to relax. It was really the missed call no vm that bothered me. So I just fooled myself into believing she somehow buttdialed me from her office phone and left immediately to enjoy a nice three day weekend 
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Mar 24, 2014 17:16
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So my mom recently lost her job as a nurse's aide, and she's asked me to help with her resume. Problem is I don't know the best way to word things, as I'm not a nurse's aide. I have asked her for clarification on certain aspects of her jobs. Most recent job was as a nurse's aide for a local hospital. She monitored patients by checking their blood pressures and blood sugar levels. Apparently she recorded the results in some computer database, but she doesn't know what sort of database. She also ordered meals, made beds, washed patients if necessary. Over the course of a day she'd be responsible for 15-20 patients. The patients could either be ones in observation, ones coming out of surgery, or walk-ins coming in for dialysis or other treatments. Her job before that was as a nurse's aide for a nursing home. Her duties there were similar to the ones above, with a few exceptions. All of the patients were live-in, as it was a nursing home. She'd was responsible for 20 regular patients. If any patients died or left the facility, she'd be given new ones so she'd have 20 again. There was also a greater emphasis on washing the patients and feeding them, as some were incapable of doing so on their own. Between those two jobs she has about 19 years of experience as a nurse's aide. Third job back was as a Shop Rite cashier. Cashier work and restocking is all she did there for about 4 years. Right now I'm using the same resume format as Resume to Interviews uses (don't have the cash to purchase the same service for her at the moment). So at the top I have the summary of qualifications, where so far I have "A Nurse's Aide with nineteen years of experience in patient care, specializing in" and then I'm not really sure what to emphasize. Below that I have her three jobs listed with the most recent first, but nothing else for those yet. I also added a Professional Certification section, as she has a certificate from our state that indicates she's enrolled in our state's nurse's aide registry. Not sure whether that section should go above or below her jobs. Not sure what else should or could go into the resume either. She has no real computer skills or any other applicable job skills that I know of. So if anyone has any ideas on how to help my mom get a job, I'd appreciate it!
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Mar 24, 2014 17:49
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I have an interview! However, it's for the exact same position in a different department that I currently occupy in my department. I know I don't need to give a reason for leaving a job in my cover letter, but should I have a response prepared if I'm asked why I want to make a lateral move? The true reason is that my dept. got me cheap and the salary band for this job starts at what I'm making now.
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Mar 24, 2014 18:08
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What's the current etiquette on calling to confirm the status of an application? How long to wait, etc? Some googling is telling me "don't" which is weird because I hear anecdotally that you do better if you show the initiative and call them.
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Mar 25, 2014 23:27
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Magnetic North posted:What's the current etiquette on calling to confirm the status of an application? How long to wait, etc? Some googling is telling me "don't" which is weird because I hear anecdotally that you do better if you show the initiative and call them.
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Mar 25, 2014 23:36
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I haven't seen this asked and I think I am in a somewhat unique situation. My school has an accelerated MSA program which is completed concurrently with a bachelors. I will be awarded both degrees when I complete the MSA requirements next December. I would have had my bachelors after this coming spring quarter but they hold it until the end of the program so I technically will have nothing until then. How would you recommend I note this on my resume?
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Mar 26, 2014 04:47
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So after two interviews I was called this morning with a "soft" offer. Meaning that no dollar amount was given, but the HR rep did say she was calling to offer me the job - the only caveat being that the title is something a little lower than what I'd expected. We never got through the dollar amount because I had to explain that the title was not good for my resume. I'm a senior level person, to take a perceived lower position would be damaging in my industry. She asked my current salary. I politely declined to answer (thanks thread) She asked what was my base salary expectation. I replied and asked if the title offered and the title I wanted overlapped pay grades (top of level A is actually middle of next level). She said yes. I threw out a six figure income that I'd be comfortable give-or-take a few percent. She needed to get back to me as this call was "only to see what my thoughts were". I'd accept a lower title at the top of the pay band or the higher title shy of midpoint. Honestly the title isn't that big of a deal to me, slightly insulting but I can be bought.
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Mar 26, 2014 04:53
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Magnetic North posted:What's the current etiquette on calling to confirm the status of an application? How long to wait, etc? Some googling is telling me "don't" which is weird because I hear anecdotally that you do better if you show the initiative and call them. If you want to check on an application, don't. If they haven't contacted you after you sent in the app to bring you in for an interview, they're not interested. It's not necessarily because you hosed anything up, there were just more people who were better for the position. Move on. If you wish to check on your candidacy after an interview, the appropriate way is to e-mail whoever interviewed you one week after the interview with a ONE OR TWO SENTENCE e-mail and then never contact the company again. E.g. "I enjoyed talking about <specific aspect of widgets> at Widget, Inc and was wondering if you had made a hiring decision yet". If you didn't get their business card that's your fault and correct it next time. If they refused to give you their business card after an in-person interview they are probably someone you don't want to work for. If you don't hear anything back after the one-week letter, you didn't get the job. Move on. For fucks sakes whatever you do, do NOT call anyone, HR or otherwise. It doesn't show initiative or whatever the baby boomer-era advice is, it just interrupts the hiring manager/HR in the middle of what you're doing and fucks up their day. If everyone who interviewed called to "check up" on the status of their candidacy they'd be fielding these calls all day. They can respond to your e-mail whenever they want but nobody in charge of hiring wants to be interrupted by a phone call. seacat fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Mar 26, 2014 |
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Mar 26, 2014 05:20
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I'm applying for a job that would have me contracted overseas, and they are asking for salary requirements in the cover letter... but there's no mention of exactly which country the job will be located in. Is putting something like "flexible on salary based on location" a good idea and acceptable?
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Mar 26, 2014 16:42
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Magnetic North posted:What's the current etiquette on calling to confirm the status of an application? How long to wait, etc? Some googling is telling me "don't" which is weird because I hear anecdotally that you do better if you show the initiative and call them. In the same vein, I got a business card from the CEO of a small company who told me to send him my resume, which I did last Thursday. Should I wait a week and call him to ask if he received it/had a chance to look at it?
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Mar 26, 2014 17:42
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I got an interview! But I forgot to save the job posting and its been removed from the site.  Is it alright to ask HR for a copy? I could really use it to prepare and show to my contacts there.V V Thanks Bisty! Pekinduck fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Mar 26, 2014 |
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Mar 26, 2014 18:24
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Claverjoe posted:In the same vein, I got a business card from the CEO of a small company who told me to send him my resume, which I did last Thursday. Should I wait a week and call him to ask if he received it/had a chance to look at it? Noooooooo. You should not call him at all. quote:I got an interview! But I forgot to save the job posting and its been removed from the site. Is it alright to ask HR for a copy? I could really use it to prepare and show to my contacts there. Yessssss. Bisty Q. fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Mar 26, 2014 |
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Mar 26, 2014 19:30
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megazord posted:So after two interviews I was called this morning with a "soft" offer. Meaning that no dollar amount was given, but the HR rep did say she was calling to offer me the job - the only caveat being that the title is something a little lower than what I'd expected. One point of concern is that if they give you the lower title at the upper end of the pay band, it may limit your opportunities for salary increases in the future.
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Mar 26, 2014 19:40
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Bisty Q. posted:Noooooooo. You should not call him at all. At least a followup email? There isn't exactly a posting or anything where the guy is going to get covered in resumes, just him talking with me and it coming out in conversation that my postdoc appointment was ending due to funding cuts. The Dipshit fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Mar 26, 2014 |
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Mar 26, 2014 19:57
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"Oh, you lost your job? You should send me your resume." is the business equivalent of "you moved back in town? We should totally hang out sometimes!" People actually mean it maybe ten percent of the time; if he actually meant it you'll hear back, otherwise there's no job to be had so no point in being that guy. Sorry, dude.
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Mar 27, 2014 00:47
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FrozenVent posted:"Oh, you lost your job? You should send me your resume." is the business equivalent of "you moved back in town? We should totally hang out sometimes!" Yeah, didn't want to say that so bluntly because you seemed so optimistic, but this. Again, if they're into you, they'll call you.
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Mar 27, 2014 00:49
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Well then, thanks.
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Mar 27, 2014 17:19
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FrozenVent posted:"Oh, you lost your job? You should send me your resume." is the business equivalent of "you moved back in town? We should totally hang out sometimes!" People actually mean it maybe ten percent of the time; if he actually meant it you'll hear back, otherwise there's no job to be had so no point in being that guy. It may not be all bad. He might not have a job for you but he might be holding your resume in case he hears something or things change. He might also have already reached out to other people on your behalf. You don't know what extent he can help or what effort hes put in but don't assume its just an empty gesture.
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Mar 27, 2014 17:28
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Backstory: recently married into the military, trying to find a job where my husband is stationed, currently live in another state. I had a phone interview for a job in the city I'm moving to and the interviewer asked why I was moving. I gave a vague answer about my husband moving there for his job and he point blank asked me if my husband was military and then said they don't hire people who won't be employees for life. I'm pretty sure that's illegal, but that aside how do I dodge that question in the future without it being obvious I'm hiding something?
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Mar 27, 2014 21:15
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I'm in my second year of college and currently filling out the application for an engineering coop program that I really want to get into. One of the questions asks "What is your most outstanding accomplishment to date? Why do you think so?" To me what immediately comes to mind is the fact that I spent my early twenties homeless and neck-deep in alcohol addiction and now after being sober for five years I'm maintaining a 3.99 GPA in an engineering program, leading a team in the robotics club and generally feeling healthy and happy to be alive. Would it be bad for me to mention that on the application? I'm really proud of having gotten my poo poo together after it being so bleak but I'm not sure if even the words "addiction" or "homeless" might make potential interviewers uncomfortable.
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Mar 27, 2014 21:57
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Aquatic Giraffe posted:Backstory: recently married into the military, trying to find a job where my husband is stationed, currently live in another state.
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Mar 27, 2014 22:11
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PlacidPanic posted:I'm in my second year of college and currently filling out the application for an engineering coop program that I really want to get into. One of the questions asks "What is your most outstanding accomplishment to date? Why do you think so?" To me what immediately comes to mind is the fact that I spent my early twenties homeless and neck-deep in alcohol addiction and now after being sober for five years I'm maintaining a 3.99 GPA in an engineering program, leading a team in the robotics club and generally feeling healthy and happy to be alive. Yeeeaaaaah, do not put either of those words on a job application ever. Think up something else.
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