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Believe nothing you hear in the months leading to the draft. Nothing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xVDyi4Wprg Coldforge fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Mar 25, 2014 |
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Mar 25, 2014 19:23
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PrinceRandom posted:ASJ is still looking nice. ASJ's problem has never been his ability to play football. It's mostly that he's kind of stupid and takes plays off and doesn't try real hard around the plays he's already taking off. Niklas looks really nice according to that breakdown while I am reinforced in my opinion that Amaro is far better than Ebron.
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Mar 25, 2014 19:26
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b0ng posted:Which QB's in the draft are known for their pre-snap reads and decision-making as much as Bridgewater is? Few, if any, but Bridgewater has some major question marks w/r/t his frame, weight, and deep accuracy. On top of all that, Clowney is the elephant (linebacker  ) in the room.
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Mar 25, 2014 19:29
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I don't buy into the ASJ is lazy argument as anything other than old dumb scouts don't like it when football players have any interest outside of football, i.e. Brennan Williams last year. Scouts like Lattimers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsFBYq_h_J0 I've seen a couple of Seferian-Jenkins' interviews and he definitely doesn't strike me as stupid, though that isn't necessarily relevant to his football IQ. ASJ isn't going to get great YAC, or force mismatches with his speed but he will be a good 3rd down/red zone target who can really help you as a blocker.
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Mar 25, 2014 19:34
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Eh I don't know how you can watch a Washington game without calling ASJ lazy. I also meant football stupid, not stupid stupid. As in he doesn't know when to come back to the QB or break off his route.
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Mar 25, 2014 19:40
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bhsman posted:Few, if any, but Bridgewater has some major question marks w/r/t his frame, weight, and deep accuracy. On top of all that, Clowney is the elephant (linebacker Again, this goes back to whether we believe O'Brien is telling the truth in this piece, even with the vagueness in the quotes of his. When O'Brien was first hired, the speculation was that he loved QB's with size and all that, and then it was he wants the team and the QB to be able to do a little of everything, now he is talking about pre-snap reads and adjustments specifically. You put it all together and the Texans are both interested and disinterested in every QB prospect in this draft but one will be drafted. I have no preference for whether they get Clowney, Bridgewater or Manziel but outside of those three at 1-1 I'd be a little disappointed.
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Mar 25, 2014 20:06
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b0ng posted:I have no preference for whether they get Clowney, Bridgewater or Manziel but outside of those three at 1-1 I'd be a little disappointed. Well get used to disappointment I guess.
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Mar 25, 2014 20:11
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quote:-ALLEN: We have a quarterback now that’s on par with the quarterbacks in this division. Don't even bother, KC already beat that bullshit by calling Alex Smith the best quarterback in football 
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Mar 25, 2014 21:29
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Is Colt Lyerla still on people's radars or did the cocaine/lovely person thing render him undraftable?
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Mar 25, 2014 21:31
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Declan MacManus posted:Is Colt Lyerla still on people's radars or did the cocaine/lovely person thing render him undraftable? hahahaha if you think cocaine/lovely person is an undraftable red flag Let me introduce you to one Jimmy Clausen.
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Mar 25, 2014 21:33
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And Ryan Mallett.
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Mar 25, 2014 21:45
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Declan MacManus posted:Is Colt Lyerla still on people's radars or did the cocaine/lovely person thing render him undraftable? Quitting Oregon in October probably torpedoed most of his draftability.
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Mar 25, 2014 21:52
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b0ng posted:Quitting Oregon in October probably torpedoed most of his draftability. Someone will take a chance on him in the 5th-7th.
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Mar 25, 2014 22:10
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Am I the only one who read college threads during the season that had a bunch of posts like "man that Bortles kid is doing well at UCF, that's pretty cool" then come draft time a whole bunch of NFL posters would rather slit their own throats then let him be their QBs
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Mar 25, 2014 22:27
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Alouicious posted:Am I the only one who read college threads during the season that had a bunch of posts like "man that Bortles kid is doing well at UCF, that's pretty cool" then come draft time a whole bunch of NFL posters would rather slit their own throats then let him be their QBs I'd be happy to let him be my QB at, say, the first pick of the second round
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Mar 25, 2014 22:29
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Alouicious posted:Am I the only one who read college threads during the season that had a bunch of posts like "man that Bortles kid is doing well at UCF, that's pretty cool" then come draft time a whole bunch of NFL posters would rather slit their own throats then let him be their QBs people in this thread don't watch college football There's been lots of stuff about the Steelers going with Ebron in the first and I really hope that's not the case. Just going to keep hoping one of Evans, Dennard, and Gilbert are available when they pick
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Mar 25, 2014 22:35
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And to be fair there are probably 20 or so college quarterbacks every year where both reactions would be correct in any round.
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Mar 25, 2014 22:36
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UCF was pretty under the radar for most of the year. They did not get any kind of national spotlight, and they play in a lovely conference with teams like Rutgers, SMU and South Florida. Honestly it was considered a joke conference for a while.
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Mar 25, 2014 23:36
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Quest For Glory II posted:UCF was pretty under the radar for most of the year. They did not get any kind of national spotlight, and they play in a lovely conference with teams like Rutgers, SMU and South Florida. Honestly it was considered a joke conference for a while. don't worry the American is still a joke
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Mar 25, 2014 23:46
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quote:quote: I think this is a smokescreen. I still think they grab Bridgewater and let him sit for a year or two behind Schaub in an ideal situation. Might be hard resisting Clowney or Mack if they are there though.
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Mar 26, 2014 00:33
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When is the last time a top 5 QB pick wasn't the day one starter?
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Mar 26, 2014 00:50
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Ehud posted:When is the last time a top 5 QB pick wasn't the day one starter? I think it might be Ringless Rivers?
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Mar 26, 2014 00:54
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Ehud posted:When is the last time a top 5 QB pick wasn't the day one starter? The highest I can think of was Ben who was drafted 11th and only started in the thrid game due to injury. Of course he ended being really drat good so he kept the job. Edit: oh yeah Rivers, but to be fair he held out until the last week of pre-season so Brees was going to have that job regardless. swickles fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Mar 26, 2014 |
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Mar 26, 2014 00:55
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Yeah...I don't think anyone is drafting a QB that high to sit for a year or two.
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Mar 26, 2014 00:58
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Ehud posted:Yeah...I don't think anyone is drafting a QB that high to sit for a year or two. Eli, Rivers, Carson Palmer. They didnt sit more than a year but they still sat.
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Mar 26, 2014 01:00
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I think the Raiders know Bridgewater will not drop to them.
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Mar 26, 2014 01:01
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Doltos posted:Eli, Rivers, Carson Palmer. They didnt sit more than a year but they still sat. Rivers sat two years
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Mar 26, 2014 01:15
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Doltos posted:Eli, Rivers, Carson Palmer. They didnt sit more than a year but they still sat. Those were all basically a decade ago. Things have changed a lot since then.
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Mar 26, 2014 01:44
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I think the Raiders have little enough talent that they'd rather go for players rated higher on their boards than grab a QB when they sort of have that covered next year.
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Mar 26, 2014 01:47
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Alouicious posted:Am I the only one who read college threads during the season that had a bunch of posts like "man that Bortles kid is doing well at UCF, that's pretty cool" then come draft time a whole bunch of NFL posters would rather slit their own throats then let him be their QBs I don't remember anyone really talking about him in any of the GDT threads. I would guess the only times he would be talked about would be vs. Louisville (and I think more people were talking about Teddy) vs. Penn State and vs. Baylor. I think in terms of draft stuff he was only really talked about in the Baylor game, and he looked really bad there. IMO his rise is kinda inexplicable. I don't really get it. Edit: Maybe the aftermath threads? I didn't really do much in those. PrinceRandom fucked around with this message at 02:50 on Mar 26, 2014 |
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Mar 26, 2014 02:47
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Ehud posted:When is the last time a top 5 QB pick wasn't the day one starter? Vince Young didn't start until week 4 after Kerry Collins took a dump on the field
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Mar 26, 2014 02:47
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Alouicious posted:Am I the only one who read college threads during the season that had a bunch of posts like "man that Bortles kid is doing well at UCF, that's pretty cool" then come draft time a whole bunch of NFL posters would rather slit their own throats then let him be their QBs I really root for Zach Mettenberger but I wouldn't take him with a top five pick.
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Mar 26, 2014 02:49
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bhsman posted:I really root for Zach Mettenberger but I wouldn't take him with a top five pick. No one would.
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Mar 26, 2014 02:50
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PrinceRandom posted:I don't remember anyone really talking about him in any of the GDT threads. I would guess the only times he would be talked about would be vs. Louisville (and I think more people were talking about Teddy) vs. Penn State and vs. Baylor. I think in terms of draft stuff he was only really talked about in the Baylor game, and he looked really bad there. IMO his rise is kinda inexplicable. I don't really get it. I remember the Fiesta Bowl GDT vividly, everyone was onboard the Bortmobile p hard
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Mar 26, 2014 02:52
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Alouicious posted:I remember the Fiesta Bowl GDT vividly, everyone was onboard the Bortmobile p hard There isn't a ton of cross-pollination despite sharing a forum
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Mar 26, 2014 02:53
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Declan MacManus posted:There isn't a ton of cross-pollination despite sharing a forum THAT MAKES ME VERY SAD
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Mar 26, 2014 02:53
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Nawid posted:I think the Raiders know Bridgewater will not drop to them. Relentlessboredomm posted:I think the Raiders have little enough talent that they'd rather go for players rated higher on their boards than grab a QB when they sort of have that covered next year.
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Mar 26, 2014 02:57
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Alouicious posted:I remember the Fiesta Bowl GDT vividly, everyone was onboard the Bortmobile p hard I remember posting  a bunch. Now, I've talked myself out of wanting him because I'm scared to love anyone.
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Mar 26, 2014 02:58
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MonsterWalk posted:I remember posting yeah that's a pretty good summary of that thread man that game owned
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Roasted Donut posted:No one would. No poo poo?
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