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Matt Striker dared William Regal to make as many Smiths references as possible during commentary on NXT. Regal, instead of trying to hide them within commentary, simply just started rattling off about twenty separate song titles during a match.
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I think he called him The Neon Genesis Evangelion, didn't he?
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Mar 26, 2014 04:55
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The most ridiculous Striker nickname for Yoshi Tatsu had to be "the Tokugawa Shogunate."
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Mar 26, 2014 04:59
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Psycho Mantits posted:The most ridiculous Striker nickname for Yoshi Tatsu had to be "the Tokugawa Shogunate." No Demon King of the Sixth Heaven? No Buys.
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Mar 26, 2014 05:06
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I didn't catch Striker on commentary, but that series of nicknames for Yoshi Tatsu are probably a bad way to demonstrate he's bad at commentary because I'm all up for stupid references during my wrestling.
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Mar 26, 2014 05:29
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John Cena genuinely likes anime so.
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epitasis posted:John Cena genuinely likes anime so. Listen, if he comes out for a wrestlemania entrance dressed like Kenshiro... I don't know what I'll do.
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Mar 26, 2014 05:34
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The problem with Michael Cole isn't his ability at doing the job of play-by-play commentary, it's that he's being constantly fed lines (most likely by Vince) and the content of these lines isn't all that great. It was on Colt Cabana's podcast with The Miz when they talk about doing commentary since at the time Miz had been doing it for Superstars or Main Event, one of the C-shows. Anyways, Miz points out that he holds Cole in the highest esteem for being able to keep about a million balls in the air and juggle them successfully while calling a show -- remembering where things start and end, building to it, hitting the commercial breaks, everything else that goes along with calling the match. And if you listen, yes, he's pretty drat good at making sure things hit their marks. But compare Raw commentary to NXT or other shows. Compare those also to the online shows or YouTube shows. In those, Cole is pretty personable, but on Raw, it's almost a coin flip as to whether it'll be good or intolerable. At least it's no longer 2011 or 2012, but it's still not at the standard it could be. I think this is predominantly due to Vince over micro-managing his A show, to its own detriment. You can see it in the commentary (fed lines, three announcers, etc) and as well in the writing of the show. There was the long-running joke about Vince not caring about SmackDown, and SD being all the better for it. Clearly Vince has done a lot and still does a lot, and that's great, but if the commentary was allowed to breathe better and some of the writing for promos on the shows weren't as over-produced, they'd feel more natural, less forced, less in the same voice and be much, much better. The three-man commentary team (and occasional clusterfuck that results from it) is pretty clearly what somebody in power wants, and behave the way is felt is best, and whomever has that opinion needs to listen to advice because I'm sure with the talent WWE has they'd be fine without the micro-management.
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Mar 26, 2014 06:34
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harperdc posted:The problem with Michael Cole isn't his ability at doing the job of play-by-play commentary, it's that he's being constantly fed lines (most likely by Vince) and the content of these lines isn't all that great. It was on Colt Cabana's podcast with The Miz when they talk about doing commentary since at the time Miz had been doing it for Superstars or Main Event, one of the C-shows. Anyways, Miz points out that he holds Cole in the highest esteem for being able to keep about a million balls in the air and juggle them successfully while calling a show -- remembering where things start and end, building to it, hitting the commercial breaks, everything else that goes along with calling the match. And if you listen, yes, he's pretty drat good at making sure things hit their marks. When Joey Styles was on Austin's podcast, one of the first things he said is that Cole needs to be in the Hall of Fame because the way he manages to juggle all the demands of his role shouldn't be humanly possible. They both agreed that they don't particularly like the content of the commentary, but the execution of it is beyond reproach, there isn't anybody who could do it better than Cole does.
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Mar 26, 2014 07:27
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Jerusalem posted:When Joey Styles was on Austin's podcast, one of the first things he said is that Cole needs to be in the Hall of Fame because the way he manages to juggle all the demands of his role shouldn't be humanly possible. They both agreed that they don't particularly like the content of the commentary, but the execution of it is beyond reproach, there isn't anybody who could do it better than Cole does.
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Mar 26, 2014 07:37
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Cole is good when he gets to play "real journalist", like with the HHH interviews that culminated in the in-ring segment this Raw. He's maybe not the best dude to be doing play-by-play (and definitely never let him be heel ever again for gently caress's sake), but he's competent if very bland. The one dude in the three-man team that REALLY pisses me off is JBL. Maybe it's the Vince effect, but his constant interruptions and nonsensical arguments hurt my head and ears, and distract me from the match that's happening.
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Mar 26, 2014 07:41
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Yeah but on the other hand Christian: I'm undefeated in my career. The only person who's ever beat me was me. JBL: Someone put a blue dot over his commentary.
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Dias posted:Cole is good when he gets to play "real journalist", like with the HHH interviews that culminated in the in-ring segment this Raw. He's maybe not the best dude to be doing play-by-play (and definitely never let him be heel ever again for gently caress's sake), but he's competent if very bland. The one dude in the three-man team that REALLY pisses me off is JBL. Maybe it's the Vince effect, but his constant interruptions and nonsensical arguments hurt my head and ears, and distract me from the match that's happening. Yeah, JBL is a problem right now. With The King still in the booth it means there's one voice too many, and if you compare to when JBL first started to substitute after Lawler's heart attack, he's clearly been directed to be different (re: shittier). It's like he's playing up his heel shtick too much, when the more natural way he spoke in the first couple weeks was a real breath of fresh air. Might have to go find it again to compare. He'll still come out with gems like the Blue Dot reference, but he's been really bad about talking over Cole and picking arguments that are actively distracting.
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Justin Godscock posted:Here's how the draft ended. The lines between the rosters had been blurred waaaaaaay before that though, which is mainly what I'm talking about. After the WWE/World Tag and Women's/Divas titles were merged the champions could appear on either show as of sometime in I think late 2009-2010, but starting right around the beginning of 2011 they kicked off the year with big matches, and exclusive roster members started showing up wherever. I remember this because the first couple weeks leading up to the Royal Rumble (well before Edge's retirement) they'd mention that so-and-so was the GM's "guest of honor" that night, and it built to the Rumble involving both rosters. But then they just sort of dropped ever explaining it and started having midcard champions show up and have matches on the other show, plus their #1 contenders, plus contenders for the floating titles, and also just kinda whoever they felt like. Dolph Ziggler was showing up on Raw regularly while he was a Smackdown guy, Sheamus would show up on Smackdown, The Corre showed up on Raw once or twice, etc. I remember it being weird because the commentary would say things like "You can see him on Smackdown" but apparently I could see them on Raw too. Raw seemed like Supershows more often than not from the beginning of the year all through the buildup to Wrestlemania 27 and beyond.
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Cole's line of questioning during the RAW interview with HHH was superb. I can't help but wonder if they shouldn't have been showing those wwe.com interviews on RAW all along, but I guess giving people a compelling reason to visit the website is a good idea.
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Dias posted:Cole is good when he gets to play "real journalist", like with the HHH interviews that culminated in the in-ring segment this Raw. He's maybe not the best dude to be doing play-by-play (and definitely never let him be heel ever again for gently caress's sake), but he's competent if very bland. The one dude in the three-man team that REALLY pisses me off is JBL. Maybe it's the Vince effect, but his constant interruptions and nonsensical arguments hurt my head and ears, and distract me from the match that's happening. The other problem is when he roots for every heel, all the time, because he's the heel announcer. That tends to happen to everyone put in that role.
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At this point the entire commentary is bad and the Michael Cole discussion is just mirroring the John Cena discussion now. Guy is good/talented/impressive but the company makes him lovely because lovely is what they want.
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ABOUT DRUGS posted:At this point the entire commentary is bad and the Michael Cole discussion is just mirroring the John Cena discussion now. Guy is good/talented/impressive but the company makes him lovely because lovely is what they want. There's a lot of talent in the WWE that isn't allowed to show because they don't want it to show.
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Joey Styles' comments of "Michael Cole always hits his marks" means he has baseline sportscaster competence, which I guess is impressive by wrestling standards. "This guy sounds phony, overly rehearsed, and has put in the same forgettable performance every week for seventeen consecutive years. But he really knows how to play us out to commercial!" I'm sure Kevin Dunn loves him.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:I'm sure Kevin Dunn loves him. Vince McMahon is the one huge on Cole so this goes without saying.
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Angular Landbury posted:Matt Striker dared William Regal to make as many Smiths references as possible during commentary on NXT. Regal, instead of trying to hide them within commentary, simply just started rattling off about twenty separate song titles during a match. I actually found a transcript of that amazing moment. "Maxine. She can talk a mile a minute. You wouldn't believe what she said to me. I just asked her how she was going, and she said...William, it was really nothing. What difference does it make? Heaven knows I'm miserable. I started something I couldn't finish. Stop me if you've heard this one before. Last night, I dreamt that somebody loved me. There's a light that never goes out. I feel like Shakespeare's sister, like the Queen is dead. This charming man, the boy with the thorn in his side. Showed up in my mind and I saw his girlfriend in a coma. Sheila, take a bow, he cried. Strangeways, here we come. These tears fell and I thought, my sweet and tender hooligans. Just ask how she is now. He looked in my eyes and it felt like a hand in glove. I began to panic and then Big Mouth strikes again. I blurted out, meat is murder. She said, that joke isn't funny anymore. I walked away and he stole my heart like so many others. So, Curtis Bateman and the mystery man: shoplifters of the world unite. That's what she told me. I had no idea what she meant, but she's in a proper hoop about it."
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Thanks for answering all of my questions. I have another one now. I was re-watching the Royal Rumble commercial that was a West Side Story parody (I think it was 2005's?). What are some good wrestling commercials?
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Funktastic posted:Thanks for answering all of my questions. Royal Rumble 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArbSULkWwqM Bonus blooper reel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaQc5IDvZj4
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Jay 2K Winger posted:Royal Rumble 2014 I actually should've mentioned that I saw that one. It is great though.
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Funktastic posted:Thanks for answering all of my questions. The movie parodies from Wrestlemania 21 were pretty good.
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Mar 27, 2014 03:09
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What were the best video promo's the WWE Production crew have ever put together?
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Onmi posted:What were the best video promo's the WWE Production crew have ever put together? http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xyj7cr_wrestlemania-x7-17-limp-bizkit-austin-rock-hype-preview-my-way_sport
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Mar 27, 2014 03:37
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Onmi posted:What were the best video promo's the WWE Production crew have ever put together? The opening of No Way Out 2000 is one of my favorite pieces of video they've ever made. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x15ba4a_wwf-no-way-out-2000-part-1_sport
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Watching WMX, working my way through nostalgia...who the hell is the ring announcer at the start? I have no recollection of this dude.
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JPrime posted:Watching WMX, working my way through nostalgia...who the hell is the ring announcer at the start? I have no recollection of this dude. He may have been the MSG house announcer, doing it until they introduce Sy Sperling & The Fink + toupee. Bill Dunn is his name, via wiki
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Mar 27, 2014 04:21
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Onmi posted:What were the best video promo's the WWE Production crew have ever put together? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC7V-ayjorg
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Onmi posted:What were the best video promo's the WWE Production crew have ever put together? edit: Blasmeister beat me to it. The "Running Up That Hill" video package was just the best, best, best ever. I mean, the Mania 17 "My Way" was drat good, but even something drat good is a distant second to the setup for Mania 26. It was pitch-perfect, everything up to and including the way Michaels was eliminated from the Rumble that year.
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Memento posted:edit: Blasmeister beat me to it. The "Running Up That Hill" video package was just the best, best, best ever. I mean, the Mania 17 "My Way" was drat good, but even something drat good is a distant second to the setup for Mania 26. It was pitch-perfect, everything up to and including the way Michaels was eliminated from the Rumble that year. That's not even the full package! Never seeing either matches, and knowing the ending, it nearly made me cry  .Full video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgauGnovoSE&hd=1 Abrasive Obelisk fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Mar 27, 2014 |
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Abrasive Obelisk posted:That's not even the full package! It's awesome song choice because it's both Shawn attempting to make a deal with God simply to wrestle the Undertaker again, and then there's the fact it's a song about someone having died and a person desperately trying to swap places with them due to grief. Now obviously, Shawn did not die, but his career did end. So as Vinny said once, it was basically the audience pleading with God to not take Shawns career, and God was not interested. Can never fault them for song choice. 'Legacy' the song they're using for Cena/Wyatt could very easily wind up the same way with a double meaning after listening to the full version, especially with the final segments of the song being pure rage. Guess we'll see Onmi fucked around with this message at 05:28 on Mar 27, 2014 |
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I think every video package they did for Shawn/Taker makes up the top 10 of best WWE video packages.
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I love this one for Punk/Taker at Mania 29. It's short and to the point, and although it barely goes over the feud or touches upon Paul Bearer, the tone of it is perfect: Punk thinks he's immortal and he's fighting Taker who in wrestling terms already is.
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JPrime posted:Watching WMX, working my way through nostalgia...who the hell is the ring announcer at the start? I have no recollection of this dude. Bill Dunn. He was mostly on SuperStars but did do a few RAWs and other PPVs, WrestleMania X as you noted and I believe KOTR that same year. Not a lot of info out there about him.
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Mar 27, 2014 09:37
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Onmi posted:then there's the fact it's a song about someone having died and a person desperately trying to swap places with them due to grief. That's not what the song is about. It's about men and women switching places to better understand each other. Kate Bush posted:I was trying to say that, really, a man and a woman, can't understand each other because we are a man and a woman. And if we could actually swap each other's roles, if we could actually be in each other's place for a while, I think we'd both be very surprised! [Laughs] And I think it would lead to a greater understanding. And really the only way I could think it could be done was either... you know, I thought a deal with the devil, you know. And I thought, 'well, no, why not a deal with God!' You know, because in a way it's so much more powerful the whole idea of asking God to make a deal with you. You see, for me it is still called "Deal With God", that was its title. The original version by her has a lot faster more upbeat tempo.
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JK! posted:That's not what the song is about. It's about men and women switching places to better understand each other. Huh, I stand corrected.
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That WM25 match is so good (obviously) but watching the promos is pretty funny. Good guy, white hat, HBK, the heel, vs. the night, dark hat, evil face Undertaker.
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