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DStecks posted:Wait, are there any landed Nestorians at any point? Or are you using the ruler designer? Because a "spread Nestorianism throughout India" could be a very interesting gimmick run. Just one, duke of Socotra. You start with a holy order and a religious head to far away to talk to, your only immediate neighbors are muslims. Its awesome. edit: also on an island with no boats second edit: if your son leaves to join the Order of Saint Addai, he... doesn't I just got 100 piety for letting my son lounge around the island. TaurusTorus fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Mar 27, 2014 |
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Bloodly posted:It depends what's actually been done, which everyone's actually been quiet on in terms of actual details. North Korea Ireland I actually found more tedious than not gaming the holding system in Ireland, mainly due to that a single war could very easily send your bank into the red. Ireland is a slow start, but that is cause everyone is near of equal power, no one count or duke outshines the other in a hurry and the island largely remains unchanged until England or Scotland decide to want some of that land
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Mar 27, 2014 03:53
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I can't play Ireland any more without Ruler Designing a heretic of some kind, it's just too drat boring.
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Mar 27, 2014 03:57
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Ugh. Had to start over. Went ruler designer, married a genius, and noticed at some time between marriage and the time I check she gone celibate. I had neither the money, or relations to request a divorce and not enough plot power to kill her.
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Mar 27, 2014 04:05
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DStecks posted:Wait, are there any landed Nestorians at any point? Or are you using the ruler designer? Because a "spread Nestorianism throughout India" could be a very interesting gimmick run. Pretty sure it said in the patch notes nestorians are no longer considered a heresy so there may be some landed somewhere
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Mar 27, 2014 04:19
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Zhaan posted:Is banishing supposed to give me a karma hit? I was doing it do avoid the 20 karma cost associated with execution since I'm trying to save up for holy wars, but my karma keeps dropping whenever I banish a peasant leader. Banishing has always given a karma hit, although it's weirdly hidden away compared to execution. I think it shows "(*) Has 20 piety" (or whatever) when you mouse over the send button for it, but doesn't tell you about it in the text above.
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Mar 27, 2014 04:31
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Thrasophius posted:Pretty sure it said in the patch notes nestorians are no longer considered a heresy so there may be some landed somewhere There's one on the island to the east of Abyssiana.
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Mar 27, 2014 04:35
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:I can't play Ireland any more without Ruler Designing a heretic of some kind, it's just too drat boring. Yeah my first game as Ireland was such a weird mess, where I somehow managed to form Britannia despite doing pretty much everything wrong, that I really want to give it another shot now that I know what I'm doing BUT I can't stand the thought of doing that heinous slog of slowly fabricating claims on everything and waiting out marriage claims. Really I don't play anybody that doesnt have some heathens close by anymore. Makes things interesting.
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Mar 27, 2014 04:45
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If all you want to do is become King of Ireland, then the easiest route is to play as Ivar the Boneless. With the starting event troops, you can steamroll through the island in just a couple years.
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Mar 27, 2014 04:52
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But then you'd have to play an unreformed pagan and deal with gavelkind.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:But then you'd have to play an unreformed pagan and deal with gavelkind. Rajas of India added a "convert to local religion" decision. It's awesomely expensive, but it exists.
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Darkrenown posted:I'm not sure, to be honest, I haven't worked on any of our games that have Ironman so it's not something I have dealt with. I thought this version of CK2 was meant to speed up the saving process a bit though? It's insanely long now, which is disappointing.
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Mar 27, 2014 05:06
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I swear I saw a "convert to local culture" button during my test run as the Solkani Rajput. That's a nice addition.
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Mar 27, 2014 05:07
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Any word on when we should expect a patch? I want to play but don't want to have to ditch my games when the patch is released.
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Eltoasto posted:Any word on when we should expect a patch? I want to play but don't want to have to ditch my games when the patch is released. The patch is out now.
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Allyn posted:Banishing has always given a karma hit, although it's weirdly hidden away compared to execution. I think it shows "(*) Has 20 piety" (or whatever) when you mouse over the send button for it, but doesn't tell you about it in the text above. I guess I just never noticed it before. The thirty peasant leaders I have can rot in their cells until they die then, I have India to subjugate.
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Mar 27, 2014 05:24
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Zhaan posted:I guess I just never noticed it before. The thirty peasant leaders I have can rot in their cells until they die then, I have India to subjugate. Or you can kill them, one one cares cause they are filthy peasants
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Knuc U Kinte posted:The patch is out now. He's probably talking about a hotfix for the stuff that went wrong in the expansion.
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Mar 27, 2014 05:40
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Oh, yeah I am thinking of the religious unrest issues and such.
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Mar 27, 2014 05:42
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DStecks posted:Wait, are there any landed Nestorians at any point? Or are you using the ruler designer? Because a "spread Nestorianism throughout India" could be a very interesting gimmick run. In either 1066 or Old Gods (I forget which) there's a Nestorian merchant Republic on a small island off the Coast of Somalia / South of the Arabian peninsula or thereabouts. Edit: Beaten. And also apparently wrong about it being a Republic.
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Talky posted:In either 1066 or Old Gods (I forget which) there's a Nestorian merchant Republic on a small island off the Coast of Somalia / South of the Arabian peninsula or thereabouts. Man, I wish that Socotra was a merchant republic, that would be hella cool. Having the only Indian Ocean merchant republic be a bunch of weird, isolated Christians would add a neat complication to playing on an Eastern coastline. It's just a titular duchy in the base game. EDIT: Oh yeah, Mongols have a small chance to convert to Nestorian still, right? 
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Speaking of bugs, I feel like I am getting the "I think X might fancy me" event an awful lot in the current release.
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Mar 27, 2014 06:02
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Had my first homosexual affair fire off. My king gets prodded to inspect a bridge and then falls through it, with his steward heroically saving him from certain death. Then my king falls in love with him and took a risk, and the steward accepted. 
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Mar 27, 2014 06:09
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This is game is on sale on Steam and I am considering getting it. I have heard good things. I have also heard the UI is really bad. How long does it take to get into it enough to actually be playing it and having fun instead of just flailing at menus? I have a lot of games on steam, so I am wary of buying a game that would take hours to get to the fun. On the other hand, LPs I've seen make it seem really cool.
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Mar 27, 2014 06:15
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Stevefin posted:Or you can kill them, one one cares cause they are filthy peasants  My Karma cares. They still cost if they're insigificant and I'm not wiping out 560 Karma to clear out my dungeons. That's a subjugation and some change.
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Mar 27, 2014 06:15
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Wittgen posted:This is game is on sale on Steam and I am considering getting it. I have heard good things. I have also heard the UI is really bad. How long does it take to get into it enough to actually be playing it and having fun instead of just flailing at menus? I have a lot of games on steam, so I am wary of buying a game that would take hours to get to the fun. On the other hand, LPs I've seen make it seem really cool. Play the demo and see for yourself: http://www.crusaderkings.com/media/demos
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Oh, I didn't realize there was a demo. Thank you! That's really helpful.
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It will take hours though, just a warning. I'm probably an outlier but it was like 10 hours before I even understood what all the buttons did.
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Zhaan posted:
odd mine costs no karma to just kill them off in my hindu game
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Mar 27, 2014 06:26
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It only costs piety/karma to do it to someone of your religion.
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Zhaan posted:
Are you Jainist? It wouldn't surprise me if the ahimsa-following Jainists have a Karma hit for executing anyone and everyone.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:But then you'd have to play an unreformed pagan and deal with gavelkind. Or just grab a province in Wales on your way through Ireland, and convert to Welsh. You get the awesome Longbow retinues, as well as the wonderful Tanistry succession law. Even as an unreformed pagan.
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There's a rather annoying bug as Muslims where it won't let you try and convince decadent members of your dynasty to change their ways. This wouldn't be so bad except that imprisoning them is always a ten point opinion malus to all your vassals and it never goes away. My God-Shah is keeping things afloat but he has -100 with literally everyone in the kingdom. Basically I've just been running non stop Furissiyah tournaments, since now you can do multiple per ruler? I guess that's a bug as well.
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Man, the new Jewish start in Ethiopia sucks so much. I spent ten years saving up gold and fabricating claims on a neighbor, then hired a mercenary band and smushed him, and as soon as I was done three different large Miaphysite countries declared holy wars on me for my new duchy. Now I'm thinking I'll restart, and instead of fabricating claims, I'll save up for both mercenary companies, declare a holy war for some Miaphysite duchy, and run my mercenaries in opposite directions to catch countries as they come in on me and destroy their armies before they can join together. Then I'll disband one merc company and use the other and my levies to win holy wars while everyone's manpower is exhausted. The tough thing is there isn't anything stopping the big duchies from holy war-ing you while you wait for gold. You only start with two counties and ~550 in levies (and no marriage options.)
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It's tough just trying to be little Romania in this large world of crazy kings who want all the land. Especially since I have to start over thanks to the new patch (yes, I know I can roll back but I don't want to). E: Yea, here it was in all it's glory. 
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Wittgen posted:Oh, I didn't realize there was a demo. Thank you! That's really helpful. I played the demo when I first heard about this game here and had no idea what the hell. A few months later I came back and sunk some hours into and now I've played over 500, so...be persistent, it's a great game.
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Randallteal posted:Man, the new Jewish start in Ethiopia sucks so much. I spent ten years saving up gold and fabricating claims on a neighbor, then hired a mercenary band and smushed him, and as soon as I was done three different large Miaphysite countries declared holy wars on me for my new duchy. I found it much easier than the Karnate start and starting at 1066 helps as you have many more lands under your control Abyss is the largest threat by far but even than they can only muster 2000-3000 troops, the lands to the north while looking huge only consist of 1-2 providence dynasty's with the largest being Alodia at 4. Once I clean this up just a matter of waiting for Fatimid to brake down, though cause of the new decadence system may not be as simple compared to before hand
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Are you Jainist? It wouldn't surprise me if the ahimsa-following Jainists have a Karma hit for executing anyone and everyone. Buddhist, currently the Emperor of Bengal. I don't know if Jains get a harder hit than 20, but it seems likely.
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Is the new ironman hilariously slow for anyone else? The autosaving is taking well over twice as long to the point where the initial autosaves are as bad as the "I've played 400 years of history" autosaves. I seriously can't see myself using this mode anymore.
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occipitallobe posted:Is the new ironman hilariously slow for anyone else? The autosaving is taking well over twice as long to the point where the initial autosaves are as bad as the "I've played 400 years of history" autosaves. I seriously can't see myself using this mode anymore. Yeah, I tried the game for a few minutes yesterday just to get that bugged cheevo (  ) and the autosaves were insane. It takes more time to autosave than to progress 1 month in the game. So it's like 5 seconds of game, 15 seconds of autosave. I tried both compressed and uncompressed saves but it didn't seem to make a difference.
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