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Arabia in the geographical sense usually refers to the Arabian peninsula. It is almost never used in the sense that you're suggesting.
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Phlegmish posted:Arabia in the geographical sense usually refers to the Arabian peninsula. It is almost never used in the sense that you're suggesting. Yeah, that didn't make any sense. Israel is in Levant.
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Mar 27, 2014 19:47
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Phlegmish posted:Arabia in the geographical sense usually refers to the Arabian peninsula. It is almost never used in the sense that you're suggesting. Yeah, (Greater) Syria has always been considered distinct from the Arabian peninsula. It makes as much sense to classify Morocco as Arabia as to lump Syria in with it.
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Mar 27, 2014 19:48
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Kamrat posted:Apparently this is from the United Nations Geoscheme which you can check out here No Central Europe, totally disqualified.
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Torrannor posted:Wait, you mean Israel is not in Arabia? Consider me surprised! Arabia can refer to - the Arabian tectonic plate - which consists mainly of the Arabian peninsula - the "Arab world" (Members of Arabic League + other Arabian-speaking countries) In neither of these definitions Israel or Turkey are included.
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Mar 27, 2014 19:49
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I think he's confusing Arabia and the Middle East. Although even then where would the Caucasus go? Central Asia?Torrannor posted:Oh and Europe annexed Siberia, nice! Siberia is overwhelmingly ethnically Russian. Koramei fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Mar 27, 2014 |
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Mar 27, 2014 19:51
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Koramei posted:I think he's confusing Arabia and the Middle East. Although even then where would the Caucasus go? Central Asia? Well the Caucasus and Anatolia are traditionally the lumped together geographically. quote:Siberia is overwhelmingly ethnically Russian And more to the point politically unless the Siberian regions have declared independence. Rumda fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Mar 27, 2014 |
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Mar 27, 2014 19:53
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Australia and New Zealand are just... Australia and New Zealand. I guess it sounds better than Southern Oceania.
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Mar 28, 2014 02:53
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I'm assuming the UN doesn't want to appear Eurocentric, so terms like "near east" and "middle east" were left out. Considering the majority of the world comes from some history and culture of european colonization though, those terms would make sense to a substantial majority. But yeah, Levant, Asia Minor/Anatolia, and Caucasia would make even more sense.
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Mar 28, 2014 02:55
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 Local politics, I guess.
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Mar 28, 2014 03:24
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Killer robot posted:
Needs "Youse" pointing to a circle around New Jersey.
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Mar 28, 2014 03:25
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Killer robot posted:
Coming from Idaho, it's just "you".
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Mar 28, 2014 03:26
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computer parts posted:Coming from Idaho, it's just "you". Yeah people seem to insist on there being a difference between the second person singular and plural when in most forms of English that distinction doesn't really exist
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Mar 28, 2014 03:39
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icantfindaname posted:Yeah people seem to insist on there being a difference between the second person singular and plural when in most forms of English that distinction doesn't really exist So you have literally never had a situation where you've had to specify that you're speaking about or to a group of people rather than a singular person? I guarantee you have and you said something different when you did. It was probably "you guys", "you all", or "all of you". The distinction absolutely exists in all dialects of English, most just don't have a dedicated pronoun for it.
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Mar 28, 2014 03:51
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Killer robot posted:
Keep going north and you get 'buddy' and 'hey b'ys'.
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Mar 28, 2014 04:34
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Need to put "Ihr/Sie" in the German-speaking regions in the Midwest.
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Mar 28, 2014 04:40
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Modern Day Hercules posted:So you have literally never had a situation where you've had to specify that you're speaking about or to a group of people rather than a singular person? I guarantee you have and you said something different when you did. It was probably "you guys", "you all", or "all of you". The distinction absolutely exists in all dialects of English, most just don't have a dedicated pronoun for it. Yes, those are used when emphasizing that there's more than one person but if it's not being emphasized 'you' by itself is common. as opposed to 'y'all' or other languages where the plural pronoun is used in all cases.
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Mar 28, 2014 04:45
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icantfindaname posted:Yeah people seem to insist on there being a difference between the second person singular and plural when in most forms of English that distinction doesn't really exist Yeah, it's the difference between "y'all" and "all of y'all"
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Mar 28, 2014 05:01
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El Scotch posted:Keep going north and you get 'buddy' and 'hey b'ys'. "ey bebes" --my terrible Chicago suburbs cousin
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Mar 28, 2014 06:03
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Even at the high end of 54 Million, that's actually not that much larger than China's Muslim population, which probably doesn't make the people who want to hype Chinese Christianity that excited. 
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Mar 28, 2014 10:07
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Tony Jowns posted:Yeah, it's the difference between "y'all" and "all of y'all" Does the fact that there's an "all of y'all" construction in the American South mean that "y'all" is simply becoming the second person singular, or is there a formality distinction between "y'all" and "you"? I mean, English used to have two second person pronouns, thou and you, and thou was the informal singular while you was both the formal singular and the plural. Thou fell out of use because it gradually became offensively informal, leaving us with just "you", but there seems to be some need for a formal second person for some reason, as working in a call centre in Scotland I have observed people saying "yourself" instead of "you" where it is not grammatically necessary when trying to be polite down the phone, and on rare occasion I have been addressed as Yous on occasions in my life when a stranger was having to be formally polite to me (resteraunts, for example).
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Mar 28, 2014 10:52
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http://qz.com/192440/where-everyone-in-the-world-is-migrating-in-one-gorgeous-chart/ A map of where people are migrating. If someone with more technical skill wants to rehost, it's a pretty cool image.
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Mar 28, 2014 16:10
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Reveilled posted:Does the fact that there's an "all of y'all" construction in the American South mean that "y'all" is simply becoming the second person singular, or is there a formality distinction between "y'all" and "you"? Y'all and All a y'all can both refer to a group, it just depends on the speaker. I usually hear all a y'all in reference to a large group and y'all as a small group. "Y'all wanna go out an eat?" "All a y'all in this town can go to hell"
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Mar 28, 2014 16:15
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It emphasizes that it is a larger group as opposed to a subgroup. I mean, it isn't really so much about the distinction as it is used for extra emphasis.
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Mar 28, 2014 16:31
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Reveilled posted:Does the fact that there's an "all of y'all" construction in the American South mean that "y'all" is simply becoming the second person singular, or is there a formality distinction between "y'all" and "you"? I don't know about recent studies, but usually the significance of a singular usage of "y'all" is given undue importance. Most of the time "y'all" is plural, but occasionally it can appear as singular, just like "you" in dialects with a "you"/"y'all" distinction. As Standard English shows, the singular/plural distinction isn't necessary as such (obviously basically no grammatical feature is necessary as such, but you know). "All y'all" is equivalent to "all of you", no? quote:I mean, English used to have two second person pronouns, thou and you, and thou was the informal singular while you was both the formal singular and the plural. Thou fell out of use because it gradually became offensively informal, leaving us with just "you", but there seems to be some need for a formal second person for some reason, as working in a call centre in Scotland I have observed people saying "yourself" instead of "you" where it is not grammatically necessary when trying to be polite down the phone, and on rare occasion I have been addressed as Yous on occasions in my life when a stranger was having to be formally polite to me (resteraunts, for example). Formality is a pretty rapidly changing feature, so it's not surprising that people occasionally pull out some unusual trick to avoid the perhaps overtly formal "Mr Reveilled, you are a right oval office" style.
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Koramei posted:here you go I like how with the countries that make up the former Soviet bloc the migration is all within them.
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Mar 28, 2014 16:36
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Interesting migrations map. Look at how many Indians go to the UAE!
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Count Roland posted:Interesting migrations map. Look at how many Indians go to the UAE! Who do you think built Dubai?
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Mar 28, 2014 16:39
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Torrannor posted:Turkey is a more difficult case, but when people are discussing Syria or Iraq or Israel they are not calling them Western Asian countries. When I was deploying to Iraq, my Army paperwork usually referred to the region as Southwest Asia.
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Mar 28, 2014 16:42
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TheImmigrant posted:Who do you think built Dubai? Oh I knew it was people from the sub continent, but I didn't realize they went there so overwhelmingly. What about Saudi Arabia and Qatar and the US and Canada and Singapore? UAE is the place to go though, apparently.
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Mar 28, 2014 17:02
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Proximity is a virtue all its own. Especially if you are poor.
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Peanut President posted:Y'all and All a y'all can both refer to a group, it just depends on the speaker. I usually hear all a y'all in reference to a large group and y'all as a small group. We're just looping back around to the Indo-European singular/dual/plural forms that have stood the test of time 
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TheImmigrant posted:Who do you think built Dubai? Still, a million migrant laborers is a LOT in a country as small as the UAE. It's unsustainable for them to be there for a protracted period, unless some permanent infrastructure is built for them and there is some effort to integrate them into the society. They have huge numbers of young men who have absolutely no prospects for marriage or advancement, in a society that treats them like dirt, and they easily outnumber the police and military combined. It doesn't take a genius to predict what's going to happen, and there really isn't anything the natives can do about it other than start shooting, which will cause way more problems than it solves.
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Killer robot posted:
In very, very rural southern appalachia people say "you'uns'es". I've never heard it mentioned outside of hearing it in a couple of towns in northern Georgia near Clayton. Sheng-Ji Yang fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Mar 29, 2014 |
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Mar 28, 2014 23:48
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Konstantin posted:Still, a million migrant laborers is a LOT in a country as small as the UAE. It's unsustainable for them to be there for a protracted period, unless some permanent infrastructure is built for them and there is some effort to integrate them into the society. They have huge numbers of young men who have absolutely no prospects for marriage or advancement, in a society that treats them like dirt, and they easily outnumber the police and military combined. It doesn't take a genius to predict what's going to happen, and there really isn't anything the natives can do about it other than start shooting, which will cause way more problems than it solves. I'd be very surprised of many Indian and Pakistani laborers went to the UAE thinking they would become permanent immigrants there. The Emiratis know what they are doing, which is importing an underclass of temporary workers (often more like indentured servants), and deporting any who cause trouble. This is truly one of those situations where the locals won't do the work, since few of them need to. Emirati citizens comprise only about 20% of the population of their country.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:In very, very rural southern appalachia people say "you'uns'es". I've never heard it mentioned outside of hearing it in a couple of towns in northern Georgia near Clayton. You actually hear "yous'uns" and "yuse" used a lot in Northern Ireland, usually in dialects with close connections to Ulster-Scots. Maybe the Applachian form is a remnant of Ulster-Scot (Scotch-Irish to you heathen Americans) influence?
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kustomkarkommando posted:You actually hear "yous'uns" and "yuse" used a lot in Northern Ireland, usually in dialects with close connections to Ulster-Scots. Maybe the Applachian form is a remnant of Ulster-Scot (Scotch-Irish to you heathen Americans) influence? Scots-Irish, actually. Scotch only refers to a kind of whiskey here. And yeah, the Appalachians were basically colonized by those murderous protestant nutjobs and they never left.
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Koramei posted:here you go Israel's on the chart but doesn't appear to have anything going to or from it?
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Bloodnose posted:Israel's on the chart but doesn't appear to have anything going to or from it? I'm guessing Israel doesn't count those who make Aliyah as immigration. And, according to Israeli statistics, yordim almost always come back so the portion that actually emigrates isn't large enough to show on the map. (?)
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