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I don't think the cannibal prediction is unrealistic, I just think it's interesting that some people don't want to consider any alternative.Dezztroy posted:It's a common trope in zombie fiction. So what's an example that isn't The Walking Dead comics or video game? Someone earlier in the thread mentioned it was in those, and to be fair that's probably enough to indicate it might make it on the show as well. I'm not trying to be a dick, I honestly can't think of any zombie fiction that features cannibalism prominently.
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JEEVES420 posted:Human sized grill man For a self-sustaining colony, absolutely. Though it'd have been hilarious if she just had a little Weber BBQ that could barely fit a single 20 oz steak on it. I know cannibalism is the popular theory, but I really hope it's not that. It's too cliche, especially for a supposed large society of survivors; I could buy a small faction like Daryl's bandit group doing it though. There's a shitload of fruit and vegetables, but people of Terminus are going to go through the trouble of venturing out for miles to put up signs and run a hail mary of a radio signal, assuming people can even hear it? Just for meat? There's got to be a deeper purpose there, and clearly it's something very off, but making cannibalism the main driver of effort just seems too forced. I'm hoping for a cult of some kind.
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Dezztroy posted:It's a common trope in zombie fiction. Can you provide some examples? I did a quick google search but didnt find any. I am honestly curious sine I cant think of any.
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Mar 28, 2014 21:15
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JEEVES420 posted:Can you provide some examples? I did a quick google search but didnt find any. I am honestly curious sine I cant think of any. It's a common trope in post-apocalyptic fiction. The vast majority of zombie fiction is outbreak fiction. It never goes long enough for cannibalism.
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Mar 28, 2014 21:25
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The book version of World War Z heavily implies that people who tried to escape north turned to cannibalism when food started to become scarce. It is also present in many of the old, more gory types of zombie b-movies, like Zombie Holocaust. Then there are other non-zombie, but postapocalyptic stories that include cannibalism, like the road.
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Mar 28, 2014 21:37
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Presumably, if you had a large community to feed, you'd need a large grill to get it done in any timely manner. So the whole "grill size" argument still seems kind of bunk to me.
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Mar 28, 2014 21:38
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Is there anyone who thinks that solely because of the grill size? Lot's of strawmanning here. The idea that they may be a cannibal group comes from the fact that: - it is the first outwardly friendly place we've encountered in the entire series, while every other group we've encountered has been hostile to strangers and fortified. - Beth was recently kidnapped, and it is unlikely that that story would be unrelated. - The place that is trying hard to recruit people from all over the place is also mostly deserted. - In a world where even experienced hunters fight over scraps of rabbits and the like, they have enough to have a grill going, regardless of size - Lack of food has been a plot point frequently reinforced this half of the season. - every other version of the TWD universe includes a cannibalism storyline. It may be cannibals, it may not be. But this derail to complain that it is all based on grill size or that it is in any way similar to thinking that Andrea was attacking her friends is ridiculous.
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Mar 28, 2014 21:49
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Yeah, it's probably Beth.  I really hope not, but someone's gotta die.
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Mar 28, 2014 22:07
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Frankensteined walkers aside, I would like to see some more of the walker applications. Like the armless, jawless slave walkers Michonne had. Also how come the walkers didn't attack her on this half of the season while she was wandering in the woods with her new slaves? Like, is this some established thing that if you have a walker on a leash, other walkers have no interest in you? On that same note, they just dropped the whole "drench clothes in zombie gore and they wont care anymore" thing after trying it once. You know guys, it seemed to worked, maybe you should take that idea further. Like, I don't know, get some overalls or a cape or whatever and dip it in some gore, see if it works out. You are behind fences, in safety, and you had the time. Also you are constantly going on supply runs, I think it would be pretty useful if it worked. Although I think they also said in the beginning of the season that the stench from the zombie corpses on the fence lures more of them in there, so who knows how it works. I mean, that was the reason they started burying them? But at the same time though, the walkers don't attack each other, they want the living. ??????????
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Mar 28, 2014 22:32
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Maybe their dark secret is they're at a railway junction and can use hand powered rail cars to go to distribution centers and get lots of supplies easily?
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Mar 28, 2014 22:34
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Gortarius posted:Frankensteined walkers aside, I would like to see some more of the walker applications. This was noted and explained in the episode where the Governor's men investigated her old walkers.
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The REAL Gtab Fan posted:Maybe their dark secret is they're at a railway junction and can use hand powered rail cars to go to distribution centers and get lots of supplies easily? Actually it bothered me the last couple episodes that there was no activity even as they got quite close to Terminus. No foraging parties? Patrols? Building up the fortifications?
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Mar 28, 2014 23:03
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Terminus is a virtual reality operated by the Senator.
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boom boom boom posted:
Boom Boom Boom knows from experience! I'm not arguing about the cannibalism thing. Just thought the post was funny. escape artist posted:Actually it was said that Terminus was "no good for people like them" - so, no good for creepy, post-apocalyptic rapists. That was my interpretation at least. Yep. I like the creepy wickerman cult idea. Cannibalism would also be funny. Whoever explained the kuru thing in "The Book of Eli", thank you. I had no loving clue why the protagonists would be concerned about the old people shaking and why that proved that they had turned to cannibalism. I'm pretty sure they didn't mention it in the movie and I never read the book. Bored fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Mar 29, 2014 |
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canuckanese posted:So what's an example that isn't The Walking Dead comics or video game? Someone earlier in the thread mentioned it was in those, and to be fair that's probably enough to indicate it might make it on the show as well. I should have said post-apocalyptic fiction instead of zombie fiction. The Road, Book of Eli, World War Z are a couple.
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Don't get me wrong it wouldn't surprise me if it was cannibalism, just the "grill size" argument is not very good.
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Mar 29, 2014 00:27
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Wizard of Smart posted:Don't get me wrong it wouldn't surprise me if it was cannibalism, just the "grill size" argument is not very good. But it's something and they didn't give us much else. Let us wildly speculate dammit!!
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Mar 29, 2014 00:34
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People are getting really serious over simple speculation. I think it's probably cannibals, but maybe not! Who knows?!
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Mar 29, 2014 01:07
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We will find out soon!
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EXTREME INSERTION posted:We will find out soon! You sure about that? There are still some people that have to make it to terminus... Wouldn't surprise me if we got a good three to five minutes of terminus, and they show something quick as the final scene.
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Mar 29, 2014 01:57
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xxEightxx posted:You sure about that? There are still some people that have to make it to terminus... Wouldn't surprise me if we got a good three to five minutes of terminus, and they show something quick as the final scene. That would make me angry, I would actually get angry over a tv show
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Mar 29, 2014 01:59
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That's the recipe TWD used for every episode for a long time. I hope they don't return to it, because it was the worst.
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xxEightxx posted:You sure about that? There are still some people that have to make it to terminus... Wouldn't surprise me if we got a good three to five minutes of terminus, and they show something quick as the final scene. This would be lovely so that's probably how here going to go.
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VDay posted:Yeah like I said there are definitely people who just need to watch the god drat show, but even in your example the confusion was caused by the driver of the van wearing a helmet for some reason. The natural and understandable reaction is 'Who is that and why are they hiding her face?' Now obviously any normal person would think about it for 2 seconds and realize that it's obviously not Andrea, but it's little poo poo like that that is completely unnecessary and only helps to confuse a (admittedly stupid) portion of the audience. You mean it was completely unnecessary to wear full armor while delivering a truck load of zombies known to have a thing for chewing on any part of exposed flesh? No, that's not the show's fault, that's retards watching the show and thinking that andrea would completely 180 in the snap of a finger and attack some group of people without reason JEEVES420 posted:maybe they have a cattle car train in the train yard. Cause we all know how cows love to live in spaces the same size as them.... Seriously? Now you're just being stupid SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Mar 29, 2014 |
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Wizard of Smart posted:Don't get me wrong it wouldn't surprise me if it was cannibalism, just the "grill size" argument is not very good. Ya know, it's almost like everyone's listed other reasons along with that one, so considering the idea trashed because you think "grill size doesn't matter" is "not very good"
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Mar 29, 2014 03:01
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Why weren't there anyone at Terminus aside from the woman? Even if it's not cannibals, it's something, especially from the preview at the end of the episode. There's no way in hell Terminus is actually a good place.
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SocketWrench posted:You mean it was completely unnecessary to wear full armor while delivering a truck load of zombies known to have a thing for chewing on any part of exposed flesh? When there's a full-mask motorcycle helmet on television, it's means one of two things: A massive twist reveal when it comes off, or somebody hosed up and left the personification of a question mark onscreen.
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SocketWrench posted:You mean it was completely unnecessary to wear full armor while delivering a truck load of zombies known to have a thing for chewing on any part of exposed flesh? I think you're missing my point. I am in no way trying to defend the people who thought it was Andrea, or deny that that entire "theory" was idiotic and made zero sense to anyone who is actually watching the show. My point is that on any other well-produced/directed show, it is a complete non-issue because the director or whoever just has the person take their helmet off as they run away from the truck. It's like how in any action movie if the good guy and the bad guy are about to have a fight but are wearing helmets/masks/hats, they'll either throw them off or find a convenient reason to not wear them before their big showdown. It's just something you do when you make a TV show or movie, precisely because there are idiots out there who will immediately start to come up with dumb theories if you don't. There are plenty of shows out there that convey much more complex and subtle ideas than anything on TWD, but their viewers aren't just constantly lost because most of those shows are well directed and the writers understand how to write for television. TWD writers constantly write some scene that they obviously thought would be cool without fully thinking out how it will actually play on TV to an audience that doesn't have the script in front of them. It's not so much about spelling everything out and keeping things super simple so that idiots never get confused, it's about writing/directing/editing scenes in such a way that any confusion can only come from the things that the writers intend to be mysterious or confusing. Again, not actually defending any of the ridiculous poo poo that's come from people not watching the show, just saying that the show itself could help alleviate a lot of those "issues". And like I said earlier, I think it's gotten a lot better about that compared to even season 3, so hopefully they'll continue to improve.
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Austrian mook posted:Why weren't there anyone at Terminus aside from the woman? Even if it's not cannibals, it's something, especially from the preview at the end of the episode. There's no way in hell Terminus is actually a good place.
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Austrian mook posted:Why weren't there anyone at Terminus aside from the woman? Even if it's not cannibals, it's something, especially from the preview at the end of the episode. There's no way in hell Terminus is actually a good place. Was the voice on the radio hers? It's been so long now I can't even remember if it was male or female.
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Philip J Fry posted:Was the voice on the radio hers? It's been so long now I can't even remember if it was male or female. If the voice is the same one as over the preview then it was here's.
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Philip J Fry posted:Was the voice on the radio hers? It's been so long now I can't even remember if it was male or female.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I have to assume it's a trap, and the next episode is going to start with them getting knocked out or held up at gunpoint or something. They're pretty boxed in. We also have to assume that Rick, Michonne, and Carl got there first, and they are nowhere to be found either. Why in the world would you assume that? I assume rick has a date with a group of very bad men before he gets to terminus. My assumption is that if there is a dark underbelly to Terminus, that will literally be the last shot if the season.
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Are we allowed to talk about the previews for the next episode in our theorizing? Or is that spoiler territory?
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Just put it in spoiler tags.
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Austrian mook posted:Why weren't there anyone at Terminus aside from the woman? Even if it's not cannibals, it's something, especially from the preview at the end of the episode. There's no way in hell Terminus is actually a good place. Yea, the place didn't even look secure. I mean a chain on a gate with no lock to keep the gate closed and the colony secure? No guards or anyone else to be seen watching the perimeter Something is off with Terminus and while I'm leaning towards cannibalism like most others there is definitely a probability of some other hidden plot.
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