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For you filthy, casual plebs (like me) that may not know how to proceed with all this new content: http://imgur.com/SmlaEky
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Why are people surprised with the instance lag and confused by the source? They specifically noted in the patch that they were completely re-working how the instancing servers work, including dynamic allocation, which means the routing tables for specific instances are no longer fixed. It's not your network, it's not something mysterious, they're working on the guts of the instancing system and I'm sure they'll patch it out (or roll it back) when they figure out where it's barfing rather than have people unable to play the new content properly.
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Mar 29, 2014 19:00
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Maybe when you release a big content update, leave infrastructure changes for a maintenance update further down the road once the content has had a chance to be played a few times? I'm not surprised by it, but a combination of shiny new things to do + crippling lag that makes said things impossible is pretty frustrating.
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Mar 29, 2014 19:04
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URL grey tea posted:Maybe when you release a big content update, leave infrastructure changes for a maintenance update further down the road once the content has had a chance to be played a few times? I'm not surprised by it, but a combination of shiny new things to do + crippling lag that makes said things impossible is pretty frustrating. I never said it wasn't frustrating or was a good implementation decision. Having my abilities barf 25-50% of the time as a BLM is extremely frustrating... But I don't understand why people think it's some mysterious network lag. Square was clear that this change was the main reason they needed a 25 hour downtime.
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Mar 29, 2014 19:09
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Does anyone have a link to videos of the different racial animations? I'm considering changing from a catboy to either a roegadyn or a lalafell, but I'm not sure who has better monk and warrior animations. The catboy ones are so good but sometimes you just wanna be a little/big person in a world full of felines.
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Mar 29, 2014 19:11
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Now is the time to level your DPS classes folks. Queue times for roulette are 5-10 minutes.
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Mar 29, 2014 19:34
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Countblanc posted:Does anyone have a link to videos of the different racial animations? I'm considering changing from a catboy to either a roegadyn or a lalafell, but I'm not sure who has better monk and warrior animations. The catboy ones are so good but sometimes you just wanna be a little/big person in a world full of felines. Combat animations don't vary a whole lot between races. At most, the idle battle pose is different.
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Mar 29, 2014 19:48
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Square Enix posted:Currrent Known Issue Regarding the Delay Experienced in Certain Instances (Mar. 29) I'm honestly glad to see them announcing that they're aware there's an issue. Sadly they don't have a timeline on a fix, but - hey, they're working on it.
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Mar 29, 2014 20:30
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Mar 29, 2014 20:41
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ilifinicus posted:
Shouldn't have ground out those atma then. 
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Mar 29, 2014 20:55
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Klades posted:Combat animations don't vary a whole lot between races. At most, the idle battle pose is different. That being said Lalafell is always the answer to "What race should I change to?". They're the best.
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Mar 29, 2014 21:00
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So, Big Fishing. It seems it works something like unspoiled nodes in that you have all these fish that can only be caught at certain times, with certain lures, in certain weather, in certain locations, however there seems to be absolutely no hints anywhere as to what goes where. Is there anybody anywhere compiling information on these to better hunt them down?
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Mar 29, 2014 21:26
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I knew I would hate myself if I tried to sit down and do the Atma grind all at once, so once I got the quest I figured I'd just get the Atma for any areas I happened to pass through and not worry about it too much otherwise. I went to Outer La Noscea for the kobold quest and now a good two or three hours later I still don't have the drat thing. It's the worst. It may be the first time I've looked at something in this game and thought "who the hell thought this was a good idea?" (Except maybe for the insane cutscene bloat during the last two story dungeons.)
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Mar 29, 2014 21:31
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seannykun posted:lovely connection. I don't have any issues avoiding aoe or anything. A lot of people with that problem use battleping or wtfast. And, for the love of all that is unholy, install Leatrix.
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Mar 29, 2014 22:50
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Line Feed posted:When I realized that was the same fucker I oiled up back at those hot springs so many levels ago I flipped. Never thought I'd see him again. WAIT, THAT WAS HILDEBRAND?!
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Mar 29, 2014 22:51
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SwissArmyDruid posted:WAIT, THAT WAS HILDEBRAND?! No. It was his dad.
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Mar 29, 2014 22:55
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You just didn't know he was Hildibrand's dad at the time. He was just that creepy old guy at the hot springs.
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Mar 29, 2014 23:12
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Mar 30, 2014 00:27
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Okay I'm seriously starting to think my zenith being Prismed IS preventing me from getting Atmas...
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Mar 30, 2014 00:31
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Celador posted:Died 4 times tanking Halitali normal last night because the healers cures weren't landing on me despite his MP dropping and his claim that he was spamming me with Cure. Instance servers are hosed right now. Dungeoning right now is suffering. Ended up in a 70 minute Longstop normal mode run yesterday because everybody in the party kept teleporting all over the place, heals and abilities not landing, tank was having issues generating threat, DPS couldn't DPS, it was pretty awful. And that's even without me and tank buddy being silly and running the dungeon in the nude. (Running longstop as an undergeared white mage is suffering in of itself, there are not enough ethers in the world.) Just got out of an Ifrit run as a Scholar where it would take 20 seconds between me hitting any ability, and the ability actually hitting. The general strategy ended up being to stand around, and facetank all of the AOEs, because basically nobody could avoid those either. Glad that SE is addressing the problem though. OWLS! fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Mar 30, 2014 |
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Mar 30, 2014 00:33
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Volt Catfish posted:Okay I'm seriously starting to think my zenith being Prismed IS preventing me from getting Atmas... Nope. It's just because atmas are hard to get.
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Mar 30, 2014 00:36
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Volt Catfish posted:Okay I'm seriously starting to think my zenith being Prismed IS preventing me from getting Atmas... I prism'd my gae bolg to a mog fork and got an atma after about an hour and half.
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Mar 30, 2014 02:16
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2.2 made me get back on my Monk and i got just enough myth from trading philo to get zenith and i was wondering is it worth my time to get Atma on a Monk with zenith and 2 myth pieces? Like i tried fates for a few hours yesterday and got nothing to show for it is there any chance SE will increase the drop chance or is it safe to say it'll always be pure rng?
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Mar 30, 2014 03:38
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Smornstein posted:2.2 made me get back on my Monk and i got just enough myth from trading philo to get zenith and i was wondering is it worth my time to get Atma on a Monk with zenith and 2 myth pieces? Like i tried fates for a few hours yesterday and got nothing to show for it is there any chance SE will increase the drop chance or is it safe to say it'll always be pure rng? Theres a 60+ page thread on the english forum and a 91 page thread in the japanese forum complaining about the poo poo atma drop rates. I imagine we'll learn very soon if it will change considering how responsive the dev team is.
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Mar 30, 2014 03:47
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Ohtsam posted:Theres a 60+ page thread on the english forum and a 91 page thread in the japanese forum complaining about the poo poo atma drop rates. I imagine we'll learn very soon if it will change considering how responsive the dev team is. Plus all the other smaller threads. If they don't change it we can assume they are trying to take the game in an FFXI direction.
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Mar 30, 2014 03:58
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AlmightyBob posted:Plus all the other smaller threads. If they don't change it we can assume they are trying to take the game in an FFXI direction. That or they felt that giving an incentive to do a bunch of FATEs is conducive to the long term health of the game since it provides a better experience for new people  There's a lot of reasons, many of them quite rational if potentially misguided, to do what they did that aren't "I'M TAKING YOU BACK TO THE BLASTED HELLSCAPE OF FFXI HAIL TANAKA HAIL SATAN"
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Mar 30, 2014 04:11
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Captain Oblivious posted:That or they felt that giving an incentive to do a bunch of FATEs is conducive to the long term health of the game since it provides a better experience for new people There's basically zero chance that it doesn't get changed to, at the bare minimum, some variant of the same grind length with a clearer indicator. Five hours of fate grinding without having anything to show for it, or any idea of how much closer you are is absolutely inexcusable.
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Mar 30, 2014 04:14
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Ultimately the problem with the Atma drops right now is the sheer, absurd variability of the experience. Of the three atma I have now, two of them I managed to get within three FATEs; the other one took three hours. In theory having the weapon upgrades as a long-term goal for players to work towards and a way to incentive running FATEs makes sense, but right now it doesn't really work as a long-term goal you can just casually work on (because making any progress at all requires you to do something you would never have a reason to do otherwise until the RNG blesses you with a random drop, which can take hours) and while it does encourage running FATEs it also kind of makes you hate them.
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Mar 30, 2014 04:21
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The hell is this 8 person requirement for Moogle and Leviathan extreme? How's a guy supposed to practice without random pugs? 
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Mar 30, 2014 05:16
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AlmightyBob posted:Plus all the other smaller threads. If they don't change it we can assume they are trying to take the game in an FFXI direction. <developer> did <thing> I don't like, they're steering this game towards <other game I don't like>
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Mar 30, 2014 05:46
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All aboard the Atma train! Couldn't have done it without my little buddy's heals along the way.
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Mar 30, 2014 05:55
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Atma is working exactly as designed, its so shutin losers who do all the content in the first 6 hours its up have something to do instead of whining. It's supposed to take a ridiculous amount of time. Normal people can get their Atma in a couple of patches.
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Mar 30, 2014 06:09
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Whizbang posted:Atma is working exactly as designed, its so shutin losers who do all the content in the first 6 hours its up have something to do instead of whining. It's supposed to take a ridiculous amount of time. Normal people can get their Atma in a couple of patches. Except, in my social groups, it's mostly the more casual players who have given up. If you're not a super hardcore player, there's only so long you can do things with no tangible reward before you log off and go play something else. Hell, i'm disabled and don't get out much, so I was definitely planning to be one of the early adopters, but after 60+ fates in East Shroud with nothing to show for it, i'm done trying to actively acquire the drat thing. Niton fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Mar 30, 2014 |
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Mar 30, 2014 06:33
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So it really is faster to just wipe until you hit 25% to do primals. Garuda went down soooo fast. You can also just survive the shrieks without even getting in the bubble. So much HP.
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Niton posted:Except, in my social groups, it's mostly the more casual players who have given up. If you're not a super hardcore player, there's only so long you can do things with no tangible reward before you log off and go play something else. That's what he said. It's for the hardcore people who go all out and poopsock, and those that don't want to do that will probably be able to get it in a reasonable time in a few patches (when they change it)
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Mar 30, 2014 06:51
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Ibram Gaunt posted:So it really is faster to just wipe until you hit 25% to do primals. Garuda went down soooo fast. You can also just survive the shrieks without even getting in the bubble. That fight sure was fun as melee, though at 25% echo buff was doing some pretty sweet damage on the boss and adds.
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Comic posted:That's what he said. It's for the hardcore people who go all out and poopsock, and those that don't want to do that will probably be able to get it in a reasonable time in a few patches (when they change it) I am normally that kind of person. However, this grind is so bad that i've found myself aligning with more casual players in simply not caring. Of the more hardcore players I know, 3 or 4 people who have finished it (the fastest being 17 hours), and a decent amount of people in the 4-8 Atma range. Many of those people have either already stopped focusing on FATEs, or are about to. In that sense, he's correct - the hardcore players are the ones still making their initial push - but most of those simply went on to do other things instead, just like more casual players. And everyone i've talked to who's stopped has roughly the same opinion: "I'll give it another shot if they change it." But he's saying that the change is an "if", not a "when", and even among those who have finished, "this is a good design" is a very minority opinion. Niton fucked around with this message at 07:05 on Mar 30, 2014 |
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Mar 30, 2014 07:03
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I know a lot of people who are enjoying the time killing while they wait on someone to make it through the various coils and make some guides. It makes me kindof sad because I really enjoy pioneering things and tactics when stuff first pops, but I'm not in the right groups to be in on that. I remember when 2.1 came out and we nearly got Ultima within a few hours of the patch. None of us had a clue what to expect and we drat near beat it. That was a blast.
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Mar 30, 2014 07:08
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To make a statement that this makes the game like XI, a game that sets you back XP when you die, that for the longest time almost required a leveling party, that had people using item swapping programs, that had a group fighting a boss for multiple days because it was "Working as intended", that had an almost random crafting system where you could get the item you were aiming for or somehow craft something stupidly expensive and then have to give it to the person for the initial trade amount, and going about by being pissed off and unsubscribing from it is really the most childish thing that I can think of. You've seen the slides from GDC recently where they've said that they need to listen to the players and make them happy, and changes will be made accordingly. That's what will happen, but it won't happen right away, as you have the hardcore people who wanted the grind there doing it. Will the hardcore people bitch about it when it's changed, yes. Will they keep on playing? As long as there is new things to kill and gear to acquire, yes.
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Apropos of nothing else, you owe it to yourself to do the Battle on Big Bridge raid. Holy poo poo, I've never laughed so hard in my life, that was delightful. Whomever worked on that obviously played and loved FFV Advance.
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