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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Oh my god, I actually never looked at it that way (which is to say 'normally'). I didn't think for a second, 'hey, didn't that judge see Stay Puft? The interdimensional portal? The mass ghost exodus from the firehouse?'. My response to people who don't understand the judge, the politicans, etc. is always this: In your experience, do government officials and courts always act in a fashion that reflects reality and common sense? Since we were talking about inflation, after my most recent viewing of the movie, I decided to look up what $5000 in 1984 would be today. The answer is $11,502.91. You know, if I were the hotel manager, I wouldn't consider that unreasonable for ghost removal—this is a nice hotel catering to rich clientele, not a Motel 6. I realize he's probably mad about all the damage they caused, but that is why God made insurance.
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Icon-Cat posted:My response to people who don't understand the judge, the politicans, etc. is always this: In your experience, do government officials and courts always act in a fashion that reflects reality and common sense? Insurance companies will try to get out of paying for the poo poo they supposedly cover and you think they're going to hand over money for ghosts?
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Timby posted:It's actually Ray, not Janine, who reads it off (this is one of those cases of ad-libbing). From the script: What is it he thought they really did in that script?
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Vicissitude posted:What is it he thought they really did in that script? I'm guessing he thought they were full of poo poo.
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Vicissitude posted:What is it he thought they really did in that script? It goes straight from Winston's line to the scene with Peter and Dickless.
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Ghostbusters is my absolute favourite film. That said, I'm totally on board with a third one helmed by the guys who did 21 Jump Street. I can totally see it working with the right talent like Jonah Hill, if they keep to the same mood of the first, like a sort of throwback to 80s film aesthetics. Everyone will treat Ghostbusters really respectfully I'm sure. They wouldn't even need the original guys in it to work, but obviously I'd love to see them back. And if it all goes wrong and sucks horribly? Well Ghostbusters will still be the best film ever made. I love this plan, I'm excited to be a part of it!
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Tezcatlipoca posted:Insurance companies will try to get out of paying for the poo poo they supposedly cover and you think they're going to hand over money for ghosts? True, true. Well, no one has to know the Ghostbusters caused all that damage. Maybe the Eastside Theatre Guild just throws an exceptionally rowdy party.
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Alan_Shore posted:Ghostbusters is my absolute favourite film. That said, I'm totally on board with a third one helmed by the guys who did 21 Jump Street. It will suck badly. The hard part will always be keeping with the original while trying to do things in modern time. Quite frankly without the cast that the movie stumbled on, it wouldn't have been near as good as it was. That's going to be like aligning planets at a certain time to do it again
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Icon-Cat posted:True, true. Well, no one has to know the Ghostbusters caused all that damage. Maybe the Eastside Theatre Guild just throws an exceptionally rowdy party. It was a Midnight Buffet, so I'd imagine there was a lot of pre-gaming. That Mrs van Houten looked like a lush.
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SocketWrench posted:It will suck badly. The hard part will always be keeping with the original while trying to do things in modern time. Quite frankly without the cast that the movie stumbled on, it wouldn't have been near as good as it was. That's going to be like aligning planets at a certain time to do it again That's more than half of it: cosmic luck to have assembled the team they did. The other aspect is that Ghostbusters was such a perfect product of its time, as a satire of the vaguely-libertarian zeitgeist of the Reagan era. I mean, it all still works and is entertaining today, but there was something very period-appropriate and politically incisive about what the movie does: cynically comments on social class and economic inequality in 80's New York, by placing it into this absurd horror genre setting. It's Secret of My Success, with ghosts. For contrast, look at something like Men in Black. It's an essentially similar narrative - an absurdist genre film that's a thinly-veiled social satire - but one reflecting resonant themes 13 years later, in the late 90's. So, it's less about class, but heavily about race. It's very much a product of the Clinton era, as an exploration of race and identity politics in a multicultural America. In that sense, making a new Ghostbusters is a difficult task because the entire humor of it is 35 years and 5 administrations ago. You'd have to make it about different things to stay resonant today, while somehow making it feel continuous with the original. A difficult task, and one that might not be worth it.
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Xealot posted:In that sense, making a new Ghostbusters is a difficult task because the entire humor of it is 35 years and 5 administrations ago. You'd have to make it about different things to stay resonant today, while somehow making it feel continuous with the original. A difficult task, and one that might not be worth it. Ghosts as Terrorists, then?
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I would actually say it might not be as hard as it sounds modernizing the humor since the cultural consciousness seems to have looped back around to nutty libertarianism in the last few years. So, ghosts as bitcoin?
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The starting point for a Ghostbusters 3 would have to be the nature of the apocalypse at the end, because that is ultimately what the libertarian politics are presented as a solution to. Obviously the heroes are at odds with the decadent rich, like when they gleefully obliterate the hotel dining room. The manager who hires them is too unskilled - too effeminate - to kill a ghost. So, how do these parasites become so rich? Above the stuffy guy at the hotel, much higher rank, there is the illuminati-style occult conspiracy. It's these 'international bankers' who hold our heroes back. In other words, ghosts did 9/11 - but they were hired by Reptilian Dick Cheney. SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 05:10 on Apr 3, 2014 |
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:In other words, ghosts did 9/11 - but they were hired by Reptilian Dick Cheney. I would watch the gently caress out of this, holy poo poo.
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7thBatallion posted:I would watch the gently caress out of this, holy poo poo. Google Loose Chughrghhgfh
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Google Loose Chughrghhgfh Not... Not a single result?
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mr. stefan posted:I would actually say it might not be as hard as it sounds modernizing the humor since the cultural consciousness seems to have looped back around to nutty libertarianism in the last few years. So, ghosts as bitcoin? There's something to this, I think. The way the first movie pokes fun at this 80's cowboy businessman style of bootstrapping, they could shift the idea to a parody of structureless tech startups. Ghostbusting as Snapchat, something like the way Arrested Development made fun of Facebook. But would it actually be satisfying? Honestly, I'd rather they kind of let Ghostbusters be. I really can't see a situation where a new sequel comes out decades later, and it's awesome and lives up to the mountain of expectation that's piled up.
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Xealot posted:I really can't see a situation where a new sequel comes out decades later, and it's awesome and lives up to the mountain of expectation that's piled up. If Phil Lord and Chris Miller make it, I am in. I expected to dislike every one of their movies, and all three times, I loved them. They seem to know how to turn terrible ideas into something great.
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There will be so much fan service crammed into one two hours(come on, you just know its going to be 2 hours or more) it will make you sick. The Ghostbusters game went too far with that stuff, but nobody cares because its just a video game. Nobody wants to see Ghostbusters 3 featuring the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man, Gozer, and a big set-piece in that Library. But somehow I have a feeling all three of those things will make it into any sequel.
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I hope someone says "that's a big Twinkie" whilst trying to drill into their head in a library
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Looke posted:I hope someone says "that's a big Twinkie" whilst trying to drill into their head in a library Sounds like a porno to me.
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Aleph Null posted:Ghosts as Terrorists, then? mr. stefan posted:I would actually say it might not be as hard as it sounds modernizing the humor since the cultural consciousness seems to have looped back around to nutty libertarianism in the last few years. So, ghosts as bitcoin? Ghosts are an unseen presence capable of watching, and possibly (in)directly interfering with, your everyday lives Ghosts as the NSA
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I wonder what kind of film we would have gotten if GB3 had been written and produced 5 years after GB2.
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# ? Apr 4, 2014 03:52 |
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Special effects on par with the Mask, and Stantz sporting a mustache. poo poo that would be great.
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Boomerjinks posted:Special effects on par with the Mask, and Stantz sporting a mustache. Yeah but it also would've been based on Aykroyd's GB: Hellbent fever dreams.
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Icon-Cat posted:My response to people who don't understand the judge, the politicans, etc. is always this: In your experience, do government officials and courts always act in a fashion that reflects reality and common sense? And eleven-five a year is about $23,400 now. The Ghostbusters apparently don't pay poo poo.
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Pope Guilty posted:And eleven-five a year is about $23,400 now. The Ghostbusters apparently don't pay poo poo. It's all they can spare, the rest is tied up in mortgage payments. 19%?!
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Everybody has three mortgages these days.
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Pope Guilty posted:And eleven-five a year is about $23,400 now. The Ghostbusters apparently don't pay poo poo. well you get room and board. It just happens to, you know, be sitting on top of a literal hell on earth.
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Soulwrangler posted:Yeah but it also would've been based on Aykroyd's GB: Hellbent fever dreams. What, you don't like humorous puns like "ManHELLtan," the kind of puns that filled the first two movies and were part of what made them great?
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Soulwrangler posted:well you get room and board. It just happens to, you know, be sitting on top of a literal hell on earth. Tribeca wasn't THAT bad then I cannot believe how much the neighborhood has changed, incidentally. Spengler's "demilitarized zone" speech is drat close to my favorite joke in the flick, but it's, as Vizzini might say, inconceivable to me that Tribeca was once a bad neighborhood. I grew up near the city but I never visited Tribeca until the mid-to-late 90s when it was already quite spruced-up. It really is amazing. This is why I love watching older movies that shot in New York. It's like looking into another time.
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Boomerjinks posted:What, you don't like humorous puns like "ManHELLtan," the kind of puns that filled the first two movies and were part of what made them great? Hopefully someone, somewhere, has saved Harold Ramis' notes on Aykroyd's drafts and the first one is "Manhelltan? Really?".
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Icon-Cat posted:It really is amazing. This is why I love watching older movies that shot in New York. It's like looking into another time. This is one reason why The Warriors is amazing. Apparently, some of New York's most notorious street gangs are based in the W 80's, and in Gramercy. They don't say if the gang leader has keys to the park...maybe their HQ is behind that artisan coffee shop at 18th & Irving.
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Icon-Cat posted:Tribeca wasn't THAT bad then I think the joke was that there was a ridiculous amount of unholy ... things residing in the basement of the firehouse.
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Timby posted:I think the joke was that there was a ridiculous amount of unholy ... things residing in the basement of the firehouse. Which I was then turning around to refer to the neighborhood being bad at the… ah, forget it :p Xealot posted:This is one reason why The Warriors is amazing. Well, a lot of it takes place around 96th as I recall. That used to be the boundary between "safe" and "unsafe". Ah me! I regularly take out-of-towners on walking tours in the Villagey areas, and I explain to them how below 14th used to be the unsafe territory… what a different time that must have been.
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Well, the only hope I had for this movie has been extinguished. BadassDigest, via some guy at The Wrap's tweet:quote:Jeff Sneider @TheInSneider
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I just remembered that GB2 used 'diaper bag' as an insult. Also, something that always amused me from the first film... Venkman: Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider, huh? Slimer: (vocal fart)
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Icon-Cat posted:It really is amazing. This is why I love watching older movies that shot in New York. It's like looking into another time. C.H.U.D. and The Exterminator are also great "New York...what a poo poo hole," movies but the Warriors is definitely the fan favorite. People today can't even conceive of trains having that much graffiti on them. There were a lot of boundaries in Brooklyn like that when I was growing up where my older brothers would just tell me straight up that if you cross the street into this block or that avenue you're on your own.
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Neo Rasa posted:C.H.U.D. and The Exterminator are also great "New York...what a poo poo hole," movies but the Warriors is definitely the fan favorite. People today can't even conceive of trains having that much graffiti on them. Wasn't that back when Times Square was known for it's peepshows and cases of crabs more than it's giant screens and getting blown up in movies all the time? The only time I've been there was in 2004 but my mom grew up there in the late 60s early 70s so she would tell me all kinds of fun/hosed stuff that happened there.
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MrJacobs posted:Wasn't that back when Times Square was known for it's peepshows and cases of crabs more than it's giant screens and getting blown up in movies all the time? The only time I've been there was in 2004 but my mom grew up there in the late 60s early 70s so she would tell me all kinds of fun/hosed stuff that happened there. Yeah, the cinematic reputation of Times Square is super fascinating. Because when your mother was there, it was Taxi Driver. Now, it's...some sort of Blade Runner nightmare of 100-foot video billboards. I literally can't fathom New York City prior to the 90's. In the years I lived there (2008-2011), I can't think of a single place I walked that struck me as particularly dangerous, including Harlem, Crown Heights, Bushwick, or Bed-Stuy...and that's become even more the case since. I assume that by 2035, it will be the crimeless future of Minority Report.
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