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TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

ActionZero posted:

does anyone know if the HG Freedom or Justice is any good?

They are rear end. If she likes Build Fighters then get her a kit from that line. She'll thank you later.

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BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn

ActionZero posted:

does anyone know if the HG Freedom or Justice is any good?

They're really old. I'll save Nerdy Seagoon the trouble and just dig up his review:

Neddy Seagoon posted:

This is basic shot of the HG


:eng101:Note that stickers are used for most of the fine detail jobs, and that both the rifle and hip-mounted gauss rifles are a bland gunmetal grey. This is a Sad Thing.



The wings... are pretty disappointing - All four are fixed pieces of blue plastic. The hip guns fold out though. The rifle's just hanging loose in the 'hold things' hand, it's not anchored with a tab or anything.



What's that? You want Full Burst Mode? Well gently caress you AND the Zoid you rode in on - these bastards swivel on the wing's axis and don't tilt.

If she wants a Freedom, I would actually recommend the MG. It's a fairly simple kit all things considered. If you want the best version out there, that would be the RG, and needless to say that's a little tough. If you can find the time to build it with your sister it'd be great though.

ActionZero
Jan 22, 2011

I act once more in
imitation of light
Okay wow if they look that lovely then the HGs are off the table. I guess I'm spoiled by the HGs I have being relatively recent (GN Archer and Ahead Smultron) and pretty decent.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



ActionZero posted:

Okay wow if they look that lovely then the HGs are off the table. I guess I'm spoiled by the HGs I have being relatively recent (GN Archer and Ahead Smultron) and pretty decent.

HGs really improved with the 00HG line. Anything before that is really hit or miss.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
HG SEED is when the HG line stopped being poo poo entirely, and HG 00 is when we started to reach modern levels of engineering. HG 00 S2 is when we hit it.

I mean poo poo, if you think that looks bad, go look at that 1/144 V2 I reviewed a while back.

muike
Mar 16, 2011

ガチムチ セブン
Is there a term for when the plastic kind of peels like, i don't know, dead skin on a blister. not the whole piece, just a tiny shred

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

BlitzBlast posted:

They're really old. I'll save Nerdy Seagoon the trouble and just dig up his review:


If she wants a Freedom, I would actually recommend the MG. It's a fairly simple kit all things considered. If you want the best version out there, that would be the RG, and needless to say that's a little tough. If you can find the time to build it with your sister it'd be great though.

HEY! :argh: You should've at least shared the rest so they can get a look at the difference between them;

Neddy Seagoon posted:



Already you can tell this thing is better - All the small detail bits are actual pieces instead of stickers, and the rifle's actually the right colour. (The little shoulder thrusters move as well, rather than being fixed in place)



The wings are gorgeous, if a little fiddly. The lowest two are a little loose, but it's just a simple matter of pinching the join holding them with friction into place.



This looks much better. I like the little detail of the handles on the hip-guns - they fold out for the hands to hold (They're also not Generic Grey). I also love the tiny movable fingers on this thing. It came with a whole load of detail stickers, and I might do them at some point for the hell of it, but not any time soon.


ActionZero posted:

So after watching episode six of Build Fighters with my younger sister (she was so into the Zaku Amazing fight, I feel so proud right now) I'm thinking of getting her a gunpla for her birthday. I'm not sure if I want to throw her into the deep end with a MG and I know what her current favourite gundams are, does anyone know if the HG Freedom or Justice is any good?

The HG Freedom is an utter piece of poo poo (some of the stickers don't even stick properly), but on the off chance she likes the Strike Gundam as well, there's an excellent new release of the Aile Strike from the HG All Gundam line.

This is it compared to the original. The only detail stickers are the red on the Aile Pack's main wings and the small white band on the shield;


And here's the box to look for (beware because there is also an HG Strike in the Remastered SEED line, and that's just the same awful kit from ten years ago)


The Build Strike's just as good (the new Aile Strike's built off the same mould), and the Zaku Amazing is a moderately simple and solid kit if she wants either of those. Just don't expect much in the way of big dynamic poses from the Zaku Amazing though.

Ignimbrite
Jan 5, 2010

BALLS BALLS BALLS
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BlitzBlast posted:

If she wants a Freedom, I would actually recommend the MG. It's a fairly simple kit all things considered. If you want the best version out there, that would be the RG, and needless to say that's a little tough. If you can find the time to build it with your sister it'd be great though.

Seconding this, Strike Freedom MG is a great kit. It's simple but actually quite elegant, and no really fiddly bits asides from maybe the mechanisms in the wings but even then it's not hard. It's also a really impressive kit when you have the wings all extended and it comes with a stand so you can really show it off. I would be very wary about the RG since the parts are so much smaller than the MG version and much more fiddly.

(I bought the Full Burst version to get the free action base that comes with it :v:)

E: v durr I always do that, I'm a dummy.

Strike freedom still owns

Ignimbrite fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Mar 30, 2014

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

Ignimbrite posted:

Seconding this, Strike Freedom MG is a great kit. It's simple but actually quite elegant, and no really fiddly bits asides from maybe the mechanisms in the wings but even then it's not hard. It's also a really impressive kit when you have the wings all extended and it comes with a stand so you can really show it off. I would be very wary about the RG since the parts are so much smaller than the MG version and much more fiddly.

(I bought the Full Burst version to get the free action base that comes with it :v:)

Wrong Gundam there buddy. Freedom =/= Strike Freedom. :v:

These two have entered their final pose:



I might grab one of those 1/100 beam sabers off ebay that actually look cool for Wing Zero.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

TaurusOxford posted:

I might grab one of those 1/100 beam sabers off ebay that actually look cool for Wing Zero.

What's the difference between those and and the standard MG ones, out of curiosity? Just a longer energy blade?

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021
They're molded with bumps and jagged edges, so they actually look like an intense beam is shooting out of the saber handle. This is what i'm referring to.

Babysitter Super Sleuth
Apr 26, 2012

my posts are as bad the Current Releases review of Gone Girl

TaurusOxford posted:

Wrong Gundam there buddy. Freedom =/= Strike Freedom. :v:

These two have entered their final pose:



I might grab one of those 1/100 beam sabers off ebay that actually look cool for Wing Zero.

I'm still mad as hell at myself for breaking my MG Epyon's heat rod.

DamnGlitch
Sep 2, 2004

TaurusOxford posted:

Wrong Gundam there buddy. Freedom =/= Strike Freedom. :v:

These two have entered their final pose:



I might grab one of those 1/100 beam sabers off ebay that actually look cool for Wing Zero.


I have ew wing gundam and ew epyon and I have to say, epyon looks waaaay better in the air like that. The transformation (which was a pretty lovely alternate mode anyway and barely got any screen time because of it) makes it difficult to do anything interesting on the ground. And the hands / forearms are really terrible.

EW Epyon also has the most baby birthing hips I ever saw on a gundam.

This is the best I've come up with in the limited space I have:

DamnGlitch fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Mar 30, 2014

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn

Oh my god I've been reading your name wrong this entire time. :aaa:

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
If she's really into Gundam Build Fighters, why not just get her a Zaku Amazing? You can still find them in stock at decent prices in some places.

I got my Plavisky-Wing Star Build Strike on Amazon for like $20. Was here in 3 days flat (with the 5-9 shipping you get free with +$35 orders). You wanna grab her and yourself a couple of kits (which would definitely be enough to hit the free shipping), and build them together, you'd probably have a lot of fun.

New HGs are very forgiving, I've been assembling mine with very little but an X-Acto knife & some nail clippers for segmenting thick runners, and some Future for the translucent pieces, and it's coming together quite nicely, despite my complete lack of experience. You may need to help her with the smaller stickers, though, there's a couple that are way too easy to gently caress up and lose forever. I had to adjust most of the head stickers on my Star Build with the X-Acto knife. (Especially that loving tiny back-of-the-head camera! :argh:)

Edit HobbySearch and Amazon both still have the Zaku Amazing in stock.

Edit2 You may also wanna find somewhere to pre-order the Bearguy-III, because she is going to be willing to kill for one.

Edit3

Apologies for potato picture, it's currently 6:30 AM, so phone pics are the best I can do. Working on better ones.

Progress report on previously-mentioned SBS. I'm about halfway through, got the base body built. It's been a fun build, has taken about 6-8 hours, between cutting pieces, removing sprue nubs, and trying to sand what I can of what's left away, then scrambling to pick up the pieces I keep dropping with my big fat fingers before the dog eats them. The model itself is fairly nice, though the right thigh's pivot joint has stubbornly insisted on staying very loose despite several dips in Future. It's not a huge deal during posing, since gravity keeps things together nicely, it's only really during moving it around and flying it through the air making space ship noises with my mouth that it's an issue.

You can't really tell, but I also dunked the red head 'gem' in future for a gloss coat, and the contrast looks very good against everything else. I hope I can figure out a way to preserve that (as well as the translucent bits on the sides of the shins) once I eventually give everything else a matte coating.

girl dick energy fucked around with this message at 11:52 on Mar 30, 2014

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
Easiest way is to just take those parts off when you do the flat coat. If they're not removable, or if you just can't do it, plan B is to mask them.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

The Leper Colon V posted:

Edit HobbySearch and Amazon both still have the Zaku Amazing in stock.

Just a note that if HLJ's anything to go by, something funky's going on with the Zaku Amazing because they're listing it as "Discontinued". If you're considering getting one, get it now.

TARDISman
Oct 28, 2011



Neddy Seagoon posted:

Just a note that if HLJ's anything to go by, something funky's going on with the Zaku Amazing because they're listing it as "Discontinued". If you're considering getting one, get it now.

Bandai never fully discontinues from what I've heard. They'll throw the production on the backburner for a while but they don't discontinue, especially with a series that's still fresh like Build Fighters. I think something's up with HLJ.

GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI
So I made a couple more MGs...



I'm thinking I might go for the God Gundam and Master Gundam next.

TARDISman
Oct 28, 2011



Gammatron 64 posted:

So I made a couple more MGs...



I'm thinking I might go for the God Gundam and Master Gundam next.

The Burning/God Gundam MG is pretty good, and it has a really sturdy frame for its time. Only real drawback is that it requires screws to assemble so that's a pain to put in.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
They're both ridiculously cheap so why not. The HGs are arguably better though!

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?
I'm just happy an HG Turn A's coming out. Hopefully an HG Turn X will follow. :shobon:

also bandai gently caress off I don't have the money for this bullshit

GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI

BlitzBlast posted:

They're both ridiculously cheap so why not. The HGs are arguably better though!

They are pretty cheap and I want to try and get some more non-UC suits for my shelf as the only MGs I have that aren't UC are the Turn A and Deathscythe. I've also thought about the Heavyarms, Proto Zero and Gundam X. I know those are all better and more recent kits, but I love G Gundam a lot. I wish they would do a MG Nobel or Maxter (will never happen.)

I actually have a HG God Gundam but I sorta hosed up the paint job and I'll have to wait for nicer weather before I fix it.

hallo spacedog
Apr 3, 2007

this chaos is killing me
💫🐕🔪😱😱

Kitfox88 posted:

I'm just happy an HG Turn A's coming out. Hopefully an HG Turn X will follow. :shobon:

also bandai gently caress off I don't have the money for this bullshit

Edit, never mind, I have never read Sentinel some how so that explains that.

hallo spacedog fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Mar 30, 2014

muike
Mar 16, 2011

ガチムチ セブン

finally

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine
I'm only into Muv-Luv for the robots

muike
Mar 16, 2011

ガチムチ セブン
same but also the hilarious looking aliens

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine
Yes, and also the pornography.

muike
Mar 16, 2011

ガチムチ セブン

add the brazzers logo

skippin jokes tho it looks like it'll let me sidestep the biggest problem i had with the base f-15 kit: the shoulder armor fit. the seams along the top of them are pretty uneven

muike fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Mar 30, 2014

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
You know what blows? Remembering that you told your club to bring their finished models to the next meeting and that you hadn't actually finished decaling your kit yet. :suicide:

On a related note, gently caress waterslides you have to wrap around circular pieces. I have spent so god drat long on the 3.0's magnetic coating parts, it's ridiculous.

Monaghan
Dec 29, 2006

BlitzBlast posted:

You know what blows? Remembering that you told your club to bring their finished models to the next meeting and that you hadn't actually finished decaling your kit yet. :suicide:

On a related note, gently caress waterslides you have to wrap around circular pieces. I have spent so god drat long on the 3.0's magnetic coating parts, it's ridiculous.

Just be like me and only put on like 5 decals.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"
The Crossbone Maoh's finally gotten some fully-stickered pictures. I was worried the standard holdy-hands were going to sag with those huge cutter/beam gun weapons, but it looks like they skipped that by just making the wrist joints too short to tilt. Though I have no idea why anyone would use anything but those "V" hands :allears:.

Dj Meow Mix
Jan 27, 2009

corgicorgicorgicorgi
rockin everywhere


Neddy Seagoon posted:

The Crossbone Maoh's finally gotten some fully-stickered pictures. I was worried the standard holdy-hands were going to sag with those huge cutter/beam gun weapons, but it looks like they skipped that by just making the wrist joints too short to tilt. Though I have no idea why anyone would use anything but those "V" hands :allears:.

Yep, gonna have to preorder that. Especially after seeing it in action in the final episode, god drat it's so awesome. I haven't bought an HG in a while but Ms. Sazabi and Crossbone Maoh are going to break the streak :swoon:

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

It's all fun and games when you get a sharp new knife until you forget just how sharp and new it is. Good job the Sengoku Astray is mostly red anyway.

Also, I probably shouldn't be Gunpla-ing after only having three hours sleep.

Doc Quantum
Sep 15, 2011
Blitz, thanks for those tips a while back about brushpainting. Especially the one about natural vs synthetic fibre brushes. Paint just flows off the natural hair brush I got in a set of 5 at the art shop for 2bux compared to the pain that is synthetic Tamiya brush I got at the hobby store for 6 dollars.

Also, now that I'm applying paint in the proper thicknesses, I've been experimenting with sanding down the layer a little with 2000 grit sandpaper, then polishing the surface back to a shine with wet toothpaste. The result is less shiny than the untouched paint, but it also looks more like an actual piece of metal. Untouched paint has this glasslike surface that just doesn't look right for some reason..

On the other hand, it's going to be a long week polishingthe rest of my HG Nu...

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
I have a friend who speeds up polishing with an electric toothbrush. He says it kills your wrist though.

hallo spacedog
Apr 3, 2007

this chaos is killing me
💫🐕🔪😱😱


Japanese people, you are not allowed to name things anymore...
I guess it's supposed to be 'Excalibur' (Caledfwlch, apparently) in Welsh but still.

...Also Zeta Honoo is ugly.

SethSeries
Sep 10, 2013



So I think I may go for my first major custom paint job and airbrush work. After the new episode, I really want to make a Gunbuster themed Miss Sazabi. Will this be an adequate airbrush tool? Also what else will I need?

http://www.amazon.com/Hobby-Supplies-Citadel-Air-Brush/dp/B001B9CZRU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396304104&sr=8-1&keywords=Citadel+airbrush

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
Oh god no. That's a single action, which is pretty much a glorified spraycan. It's made by Games Workshop too, who pretty much don't deserve your money. If you want to get into airbrushing, don't cheap out. Get a solid double action Iwata or something and a compressor to go with it. Fauxtool can probably tell you more.

As for what you need, assuming you're starting from scratch you want:
1. Something to paint with, and all of the accompanying equipment.
2. Paint. If you're intent on airbrushing, go with either acrylic or lacquer.
2a. If you're going with lacquer you want a respirator pronto.
3. Paint thinner.
4. Masking tape.
5. Gloves.
6. Some way of holding your pieces up while you blast them. Alligator clips on top of bamboo skewers stabbed into styrofoam are a popular option.

BlitzBlast fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Mar 31, 2014

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girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Neddy Seagoon posted:

The Crossbone Maoh's finally gotten some fully-stickered pictures. I was worried the standard holdy-hands were going to sag with those huge cutter/beam gun weapons, but it looks like they skipped that by just making the wrist joints too short to tilt. Though I have no idea why anyone would use anything but those "V" hands :allears:.
Oh my god, those under-arm blade holders alone are enough to make me want to buy the kit, so I can kitbash it with a Sengoku Astray, and have a Gundam Shiva it up with six blades.

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