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peak debt
Mar 11, 2001
b& :(
Nap Ghost
Nope, by the frame of reference of the ship, the trip has really only taken a single year. They started a one light year trip one year ago. Therefore it is 2101, and they still have three years to get their bet in before 2104 happens.

Note that what would happen in reality is that Earth sends out the lottery result in 2104 by radio, so they arrive in 2108 (four years after the ship arrives). By the reference of the ship itself, the numbers arrive in 2105 so no violation of causality can happen, even if the two frames still disagree on the simultaneity of events. This only creates impossible situations if faster-than-lightspeed communication is allowed.

peak debt fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Apr 1, 2014

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Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

anthonypants posted:

There's a Toshiba one here and a few more in this old reddit thread.

Yup, got it... last time I did this I had a few bites. :getin:

Antioch
Apr 18, 2003
I have those posters up in HR, Marketing and C-Level Copy rooms. I figure if I'm going to get any bites, those are the 3 most likely areas.

sfwarlock
Aug 11, 2007

peak debt posted:

Nope, by the frame of reference of the ship, the trip has really only taken a single year. They started a one light year trip one year ago. Therefore it is 2101, and they still have three years to get their bet in before 2104 happens.

But they can't by any method get their bet back to Earth before the numbers are drawn. Yes, if they get the numbers by ansible as soon as the draw happens and then buy a ticket by return ansible, their purchase is datestamped 2101... but it still happened after the numbers were drawn.

It's like time zones writ large; even though I can send the winning lottery number from California (drawn at 19:00) at 19:30 California time to Hawaii (local time 16:30), that doesn't mean that my buddy in Hawaii can buy a ticket for the California Lottery at 17:00 his time and have it honored.

(And yes, I understand the science, but to me it feels like something our language/everyday practices haven't yet evolved to deal with, instead of time travel.)

God of Mischief
Oct 22, 2010

nexxai posted:

Just a reminder that tomorrow is April Fools Day, so if you haven't thought of anything to do to your users, these are pretty harmless.



This is going on the printer at work. :colbert: Considering how often the printer gets used, it may be a week or two before anyone notices.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.
A ticket came in.

And VPN software came out.


We've already caught this guy once using Tunnelbear and utorrent. I even found his stash of illgotten movies (and kept the decent ones, he didn't have very good taste though).
Brought it up to my lead, he said warn him but don't escalate. If he was smarter about his :filez: nobody on desktop would have noticed or even cared really, but he got that computer infected with a virus.

Go in to the same department today. It's been month or two since that incident. What do I find? Same loving VPN software, but no utorrent or goodies. Browser history is wiped clean. He's getting smarter about it. Again, I don't really care unless the computer gets broke. It did get broke. The internet settings were all messed up. Clever, but not clever enough. Got the go ahead to escalate. I don't necessarily want to get anyone fired, but we were nice enough to let it slide the first time and you really should count your blessings and watch your back if we do you a solid like that.

Also, my lead's policy of second chances is starting to get irritating. I've found porn on a computer and he likes duuhhh ohhhh just watch the computer to see if he keeps doing it. One of these days I'm going to say gently caress the chain of command and go over his head. I only do it this way out of respect for the rank and the proper way of doing things, but there's nothing stopping me from going over his head. Indeed, what he's doing is against policy, but I go through him hoping he'll make the right call, and I'm disappointed that he has no stomach for escalation.

chin up everything sucks
Jan 29, 2012

Porn on a work comp is a major LEGAL issue. If he's downloading porn, you have to make sure it's nothing hugely illegal or it can bite your company in the rear end. I used to work with a guy who had done network security for a big company for years... when he did that job, every time somebody got caught with porn on their comp, this guy was required to sit down and watch every minute of it to make sure no kiddie porn or snuff porn was inserted inside a seemingly normal porn vid. He finally quit that job because he had to watch too much lovely porn.

Apparently the company can be considered an accessory to the crime if company property is used for downloading kiddie porn and the company itself doesn't report it before the person gets caught, or some weird thing like that. I don't know the details, I just answered emails and imaged comps for new hires, so it was never something I dealt with directly.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
Besides a general sense of professionalism, I can't imagine looking at porn on a work computer. I don't want to look at anything that I wouldn't want discussed openly in front of the whole department.

FireSight posted:

every time somebody got caught with porn on their comp, this guy was required to sit down and watch every minute of it to make sure no kiddie porn or snuff porn was inserted inside a seemingly normal porn vid.

Basically this, do you really want record in your file that has a big list of all the porn they found you looking at?

Dr. Arbitrary fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Apr 1, 2014

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

FireSight posted:

when he did that job, every time somebody got caught with porn on their comp, this guy was required to sit down and watch every minute of it to make sure no kiddie porn or snuff porn was inserted inside a seemingly normal porn vid.

That's insane and they make hardware/software that does this for people.

chin up everything sucks
Jan 29, 2012

Inspector_666 posted:

That's insane and they make hardware/software that does this for people.

This was years ago, so they probably use software instead of a dude now.

blackswordca
Apr 25, 2010

Just 'cause you pour syrup on something doesn't make it pancakes!
So a voicemail came into my clients after hour line

I haven't listened to it yet, and i didn't recognize the phone number so I looked it up. It was a 45 minute voicemail from the psychiatric ward at a downtown hospital.

Should be a good way to kill part of the morning tomorrow.

Emushka
Jul 5, 2007

skooma512 posted:

Tunnelbear and utorrent


Don't know what kind of policies your company enforces, but I assume no local admin rights/running executables from desktop&mydocuments and maybe block >10000 and all the obvious ports from the company firewall? Of course you as the admin can take it only so far, if someone still wants to gently caress around I guess that is a big enough cause to fire them on the spot?

peak debt
Mar 11, 2001
b& :(
Nap Ghost

sfwarlock posted:

But they can't by any method get their bet back to Earth before the numbers are drawn. Yes, if they get the numbers by ansible as soon as the draw happens and then buy a ticket by return ansible, their purchase is datestamped 2101... but it still happened after the numbers were drawn.

It's like time zones writ large; even though I can send the winning lottery number from California (drawn at 19:00) at 19:30 California time to Hawaii (local time 16:30), that doesn't mean that my buddy in Hawaii can buy a ticket for the California Lottery at 17:00 his time and have it honored.

(And yes, I understand the science, but to me it feels like something our language/everyday practices haven't yet evolved to deal with, instead of time travel.)

Your error is that you think relativity changes timestamps. It doesn't. Time dilation changes time itself. On the ship, it _is_ 2101 when it passes α Cen. On Earth, it _is_ 2104 when the ship passes α Cen. Both of these claims are equally true.

Our minds have not evolved to deal with relativistic movement. Especially the idea that simultaneity can be relative is something we have never experienced and are not equipped to handle intuitively.

And this is what's happening there. For an Earth observer, the 2104 New Years Fireworks are simultaneous to the arrival of the spaceship. For the ship observer, they happen three years later.

A similar such "paradox" is the pole and barn paradox, where two people each have indisputable proof that what they see is correct, but they saw two different things that are not reconcilable with each other.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

peak debt posted:

Your error is that you think relativity changes timestamps. It doesn't. Time dilation changes time itself. On the ship, it _is_ 2101 when it passes α Cen. On Earth, it _is_ 2104 when the ship passes α Cen. Both of these claims are equally true.

Our minds have not evolved to deal with relativistic movement. Especially the idea that simultaneity can be relative is something we have never experienced and are not equipped to handle intuitively.

And this is what's happening there. For an Earth observer, the 2104 New Years Fireworks are simultaneous to the arrival of the spaceship. For the ship observer, they happen three years later.

A similar such "paradox" is the pole and barn paradox, where two people each have indisputable proof that what they see is correct, but they saw two different things that are not reconcilable with each other.

Except when they get to their destination, they change all their clocks to match the local time. It's the same thing as timezones. When you fly from California to New York, you don't say "It may be 10 here but it's actually 6 for me." You adjust to the local time and get on with it. So yes, it will technically be 2101 for the ship when they get there, but when they get off the ship, it will be 2104.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Cojawfee posted:

Except when they get to their destination, they change all their clocks to match the local time. It's the same thing as timezones. When you fly from California to New York, you don't say "It may be 10 here but it's actually 6 for me." You adjust to the local time and get on with it. So yes, it will technically be 2101 for the ship when they get there, but when they get off the ship, it will be 2104.

No, it won't.

evol262
Nov 30, 2010
#!/usr/bin/perl

Cojawfee posted:

Except when they get to their destination, they change all their clocks to match the local time. It's the same thing as timezones. When you fly from California to New York, you don't say "It may be 10 here but it's actually 6 for me." You adjust to the local time and get on with it. So yes, it will technically be 2101 for the ship when they get there, but when they get off the ship, it will be 2104.

Please read the twin paradox if you believe this. Local time on Alpha Centauri would still be 2101.

Baby Town Frolics
Mar 21, 2008

It's like we've got each other's backs.

nexxai posted:

Just a reminder that tomorrow is April Fools Day, so if you haven't thought of anything to do to your users, these are pretty harmless.

Thank you. I always forget to post these on April Fools day.

slightpirate
Dec 26, 2006
i am the dance commander
Today, Management has enacted a new email policy. 90 days on inbox/sent items. 30 days on deleted items, and infinity on .pst files. Oh, and if you had anything in those folders prior to 90/30 days - its all gone, and unrecoverable. This policy is in place today, so pretty much any mail not in a .pst that is older than the first of the year is toast.

Also not an April Fools Joke.

kensei
Dec 27, 2007

He has come home, where he belongs. The Ancient Mariner returns to lead his first team to glory, forever and ever. Amen!


An email came in:

Our Hosted Exchange Vendor posted:

(user@re-sold-email.com) has sent out a mass mailing (75,529 messages), violating our TOS. Please remind (user@re-sold-email.com) of our TOS and that our system is not intended for mass mailing. The account has been disabled in AD and prevented from sending.

That's pretty impressive, and I have no idea how they managed to even get that started, let alone sent out. Needless to say, our vendor is pissed, and this user is in a serious time out.

EAT THE EGGS RICOLA
May 29, 2008

what did they send?

kensei
Dec 27, 2007

He has come home, where he belongs. The Ancient Mariner returns to lead his first team to glory, forever and ever. Amen!


EAT THE EGGS RICOLA posted:

what did they send?

Waiting to find out, it's a marketing company so it may have been a hack, or it could have been them being really stupid.

sfwarlock
Aug 11, 2007

kensei posted:

An email came in:


That's pretty impressive, and I have no idea how they managed to even get that started, let alone sent out. Needless to say, our vendor is pissed, and this user is in a serious time out.

I managed to do something similar to that once. Never put a disk write or a network action in a loop that could become infinite unless you're absolutely sure of what you're doing.

Meanwhile, regarding FTL chat:

Assume the ship, upon arriving at Alpha Cent (ship's time 1/1/2101), picks up some guy named Zefram Cochrane, turns around and heads right back. When they get back, their calendar reads 2102, but that doesn't change that 8 years have passed on Earth and that 2104 lottery they hope to enter to fund Z's 'warp drive' was four years ago.

Yeah, what breaks is the whole "Year (current year minus x) was x years ago in my personal timeframe", but by the nature of spacetime, that has to break.

peak debt
Mar 11, 2001
b& :(
Nap Ghost

sfwarlock posted:

Assume the ship, upon arriving at Alpha Cent (ship's time 1/1/2101), picks up some guy named Zefram Cochrane, turns around and heads right back. When they get back, their calendar reads 2102, but that doesn't change that 8 years have passed on Earth and that 2104 lottery they hope to enter to fund Z's 'warp drive' was four years ago.

Yep, but by turning around, they "broke" special relativity because they accelerated and special relativity's "all frames of reference are equal" rule is only valid in acceleration free environments. By turning around, they invalidate their status. They do indeed return to Earth with the ships clock showing 2102 but it is not a "true" time anymore. From the point of view of the ship, during the time of deceleration/acceleration, Earth will catch up the 6 years of lost time due to general relativity so they will see the true time on Earth be 2108.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_paradox

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



blackswordca posted:

So a voicemail came into my clients after hour line

I haven't listened to it yet, and i didn't recognize the phone number so I looked it up. It was a 45 minute voicemail from the psychiatric ward at a downtown hospital.

Should be a good way to kill part of the morning tomorrow.
It's you from the future, sending FTL data transmission back in time to tell you to :frogout:

e: but somehow forgets to gather and put some winning powerball numbers in the message

KoRMaK fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Apr 1, 2014

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
Oh users.

Nah we can't send you logs because of regulations, but you need to explain what went wrong.
Yes, we know you (the vendor) haven't seen this issue before, but you need to fix it right now with no data other than a description of what happened.
No, we won't run the commands you suggest, even if they're published KB articles, we think you're trying to hack us. The PLA have probably hacked all our systems anyway, but whatever.

Here, let me wave my magic wand of problem fixing that just repairs every problem with every configuration on every version of our software.

It's my dick and I'm waving it in your face.

Lum
Aug 13, 2003

scroogle nmaps posted:

Oh users.

Nah we can't send you logs because of regulations, but you need to explain what went wrong.
Yes, we know you (the vendor) haven't seen this issue before, but you need to fix it right now with no data other than a description of what happened.

Argh! I get this one all the time from one customer, when I did eventually get logs out of them, they'd hand edited out all computer names, all IP addresses, all usernames and all record numbers. They also sent me a one month log file when I only asked for today and yesterday.

No wonder they didn't want to send me logs, but what I have is basically useless.

A Frosty Witch
Apr 21, 2005

I was just looking at it and I suddenly got this urge to get inside. No, not just an urge - more than that. It was my destiny to be here; in the box.

larchesdanrew posted:

Does anyone else have supervisors that have intimate knowledge of everything that is going on, but refuse to let you in on the secret so you can do your loving job, then swoop in at the last minute to interfere with every single loving thing you end up working on and take all the credit? Do you first find out about every single project, big or small, three days after it's supposed to have been finished? Are your repeated inquiries related to how things are set up and operate completely ignored, only to have said reaction come back to bite you in the rear end?

Is it just me or is this basically IT in a nutshell, because I think I'm beginning to understand this whole :yotj: thing.

Quoting my earlier post, because suddenly (since, like, last week) this no longer applies. I'm not really sure what's going on, but all of a sudden my supervisor and general manager are asking my input on all issues great and small, I seem to have been given a certain level of autonomy on certain issues, and I was even asked to be a part of yesterday's super-important and ultra-secretive visit with our virtual studio representatives, which consisted of me, my supervisor, and the general manager. Just now, my supervisor nominated me to be in charge of our recent mass tablet purchase, making me responsible for setting them up and training users. Later, I have rotating meetings with all departments to prepare for a new backup storage solution.

It's all really weird. Since August, I've lived under my supervisor's thumb and most of my job has been spent sitting at my desk and twiddling my thumbs while he did everything, and all of a sudden I'm being treated like a competent employee. Maybe he finally realized I can be a greater asset than "guy that holds the ladder and hands me tools." Whatever it is, I'm really liking it, and for the first time since I started I'm kind of excited about my job. I'm almost positive this feeling will pass quickly, but for now it's new and exciting :shrug:

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

peak debt posted:

Yep, but by turning around, they "broke" special relativity because they accelerated and special relativity's "all frames of reference are equal" rule is only valid in acceleration free environments. By turning around, they invalidate their status. They do indeed return to Earth with the ships clock showing 2102 but it is not a "true" time anymore. From the point of view of the ship, during the time of deceleration/acceleration, Earth will catch up the 6 years of lost time due to general relativity so they will see the true time on Earth be 2108.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_paradox

You're all missing the point that if you can afford FTL travel, you probably don't need to win the lottery.

I mean, if we're even doing FTL, we're probably (loving hopefully) post-scarcity anyway.

chin up everything sucks
Jan 29, 2012

Inspector_666 posted:

You're all missing the point that if you can afford FTL travel, you probably don't need to win the lottery.

I mean, if we're even doing FTL, we're probably (loving hopefully) post-scarcity anyway.

Hahahaha.

No, scarcity is what will drive us to develop FTL.

Kuros
Sep 13, 2010

Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.
A ticket came in...

Or to be more precise, someone walked up to my desk and thought they had a virus as they were getting email bombed. Turns out a few people were getting email bombed from a single source. The first email in the bomb stated "Happy April Fools! You're inbox is going to get bombed!" I got our Network Operations team involved and with some teamwork, we found out who the culprit was and my co-worker got a message from the culprit when he tried to remote into the offending machine.

Paraphrased, the culprit asked if he should stop his shenanigans and how we caught him. This was over our chat client, so screenshots were taken.

Our head of IT got wind of this and was extremely pissed off and went to talk to the guy directly along with our IT Security Manager. I overheard talk of getting the culprit's manager, his manager's manager and his VP involved.

Said culprit has had his equipment taken away from him and walked out the door.

April Fools indeed.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Wow, drat.

chin up everything sucks
Jan 29, 2012

April Fools isn't "do random poo poo and laugh" it's "trick people with something silly and harmless". I don't know how some people screw it up that badly.

DrAlexanderTobacco
Jun 11, 2012

Help me find my true dharma
There's always one person who assumes April Fools is just a day where you can be a oval office.

BOOTY-ADE
Aug 30, 2006

BIG KOOL TELLIN' Y'ALL TO KEEP IT TIGHT

Sonic Dude posted:

A spam email came in, complete with a warning from the mail server about the attachment containing "W32/Trojan.MNWL-4927." Our first-tier guy then forwarded it individually to almost everyone in the company asking "is this attachment something you were expecting? I don't know what it is."

God drat it.

One of my coworkers had a similar issue with a client - someone received one of those spoof messages that contains the Cryptolocker virus attachment, and forwarded it to her boss. The email apparently said something about a message that was sent to one of their outside reps and got rejected by the mail server. Boss opens the message, opens the ZIP attachment, proceeds to run it and gets the virus on his PC. Which spreads to all the network drives he has access to. :doh:

The kicker? Coworker had told people with this particular client about the virus, and basically said "if you see anything that looks suspicious, especially anything with a ZIP attachment that contains an EXE file, send it to me and then delete it immediately". The idiot boss had opened the file right before the client office closed, didn't say anything to anyone about it, and by the time everyone came back they couldn't access 2 of their shared network drives because the virus had been spreading all night long. Thankfully they had offsite backups so data could be restored, but unfortunately, my coworker had to spend a good chunk of his day restoring almost 500GB of data that got hit.

In short, even the managers/bosses/supervisors can be just as half-wit retarded as some of the users. :downs:

chin up everything sucks
Jan 29, 2012

Ozz81 posted:


In short, even the managers/bosses/supervisors can be just as half-wit retarded as some of the users. :downs:

"More" retarded. And then they blame everyone else.

SopWATh
Jun 1, 2000
Some tickets came in:

Multiple people got locked out of their email this morning.

Multiple people got a suspicious email today, telling them to "Click this link" with no description of what said link contained or where it directing them or what it was for.

Multiple people clicked the link, which promptly sent the same message to everyone in their Google OU.

Multiple tickets came in saying, I clicked this link, but it didn't do anything and now my email doesn't work! Weird!

SopWATh
Jun 1, 2000
Multiple tickets came in today:

Multiple people "accidentally" deleted files from their network shares.

Multiple people "accidentally" deleted files from different group shares.

Multiple people "accidentally" moved files from different group shares to their desktop and promptly "lost" the files.


What is going on today?

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

:jpmf:

Kuros posted:

A ticket came in...

Or to be more precise, someone walked up to my desk and thought they had a virus as they were getting email bombed. Turns out a few people were getting email bombed from a single source. The first email in the bomb stated "Happy April Fools! You're inbox is going to get bombed!" I got our Network Operations team involved and with some teamwork, we found out who the culprit was and my co-worker got a message from the culprit when he tried to remote into the offending machine.

Paraphrased, the culprit asked if he should stop his shenanigans and how we caught him. This was over our chat client, so screenshots were taken.

Our head of IT got wind of this and was extremely pissed off and went to talk to the guy directly along with our IT Security Manager. I overheard talk of getting the culprit's manager, his manager's manager and his VP involved.

Said culprit has had his equipment taken away from him and walked out the door.

April Fools indeed.

These stories warm my heart. Some people are nowhere near as funny as they think they are.

Prosthetic_Mind
Mar 1, 2007
Pillbug
Today for april fools we had some rear end in a top hat put goldfish in one of the toilets, (saved by our receptionist) and our resident slimy salesdouche put a tarantula in our facility manager's headphone case before leaving for a flight out, with a camera set up to record his reaction.

I don't know what happened to the goldfish but I know that the tarantula is going to a good home. I held it for a bit and it was pretty cool.

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kensei
Dec 27, 2007

He has come home, where he belongs. The Ancient Mariner returns to lead his first team to glory, forever and ever. Amen!


EAT THE EGGS RICOLA posted:

what did they send?

Update: there was an exploit on the user's machine, and it was spamming the world. :jihad:

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