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Oh Oh Oh, if this thread is going to devolve into mindless drivel lets do WR comparisons. That's my favorite brand of non-content poo poo. Sammy Watkins or Julio Jones? I actually heard someone say that Watkins was the superior prospect and that's obviously bullshit, right?
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Doltos posted:Hey Texans fans: who do you think should go #2 overall? If the Rams don't trade out of it? Greg Robinson. I think he's going to be a fantastic LT for the next 10-12 years, and could be a dominant RT right out of the gate. The Puppy Bowl posted:Oh Oh Oh, if this thread is going to devolve into mindless drivel lets do WR comparisons. That's my favorite brand of non-content poo poo. It's bullshit.
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Doltos posted:Hey Texans fans: who do you think should go #2 overall? Michael Sam
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Watkins and Julio Jones are nothing alike
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Doltos posted:Hey Texans fans: who do you think should go #2 overall? I don't think the Rams will want to invest in a speedy WR after taking Austin (at least as long as they are keeping Schotty); they'd be best-suited taking a guy like Matthews or Robinson.
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Apr 1, 2014 20:38
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The Rams also just signed Kenny Britt Not that this should be a deterrent from taking a WR
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Intruder posted:The Rams also just signed Kenny Britt Also true. Maybe Aaron Donald to pair with Brockers?
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Oh Oh Oh, if this thread is going to devolve into mindless drivel lets do WR comparisons. That's my favorite brand of non-content poo poo. Ehhhhh, depends on what you're looking for. People are obviously going to say Jones was a better prospect because we have the benefit of hindsight now with Jones becoming a top-flight WR. Watkins doesn't have Jones' ridiculous size-speed combo but he's probably more polished than Jones was coming out of school and definitely more dangerous after the catch. Jones went at 6 and I wouldn't blink an eye if Watkins went by that pick as well, if not even before. Of course, Jones was in the same draft class as AJ Green, so circumstances are different.
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I think body control and catch radius are huge in the modern NFL. Julio Jones has that in spades. Watkins really strikes me as an upgraded version of Torrey Smith, which is great but probably not worth such a high pick in this loaded class. Kirios posted:If the Rams don't trade out of it? Greg Robinson. I think he's going to be a fantastic LT for the next 10-12 years, and could be a dominant RT right out of the gate. I like Matthews better than Robinson. You can talk about ceiling as much as you'd like but Jake Matthews is just ridiculously pro ready.
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I'm just preparing myself for the big 4 (Clowney, Mack, Matthews, Robinson) being gone by pick 6 and it will make me very sad  If the drat Redskins would have just completed that 2 point conversion... 
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I'd bet one of those four will be there at six. At least one QB and probably Watkins are going to go in the top 5
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Intruder posted:I'd bet one of those four will be there at six. At least one QB and probably Watkins are going to go in the top 5 I really hope so, and I think you are right, but I just have this feeling poo poo is gonna go down and Atlanta will be on the outside looking in. There are lots of rumors of them trading up to 2, and with Dmitrioff anything is possible, I am not a fan of that with such a deep draft from what I understand in positions of need for them.
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Watkins compares favorably to Torrey Smith physically but he's much, much better than Torrey Smith.
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Coming out of college most definitely. I just don't think Watkins matches up to previous top tier WR prospects like Green, Johnson, Johnson, and Fitzgerald.
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Apr 1, 2014 21:27
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I view him like a much better Blackmon but it's because I think they both play bigger than they are.
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Yeah if a guy isn't 6'5 245 lbs you can't really fault him for it. We're living in a freaky age of WRs but 6'1 215 is still great size for a guy running down field trying to catch a ball. Excluding the size element of it, I see that Watkins compares very favorably with guys like Reggie Wayne, Chad Johnson, Jerry Rice, etc. 6'1-6'2 with feet as crisp as Watkins terrorize the league for a long time. He does seem a bit underwhelming to the big names, but he's by far the best WR in this draft. Mike Evans looks like a league standard big man, which isn't a bad thing either, just not HoF worthy like Calvin or AJ2000.
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The only question we need to ask about #2 is who is going to trade up into that spot once Houston passes on Clowney.
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Shath Hole posted:I'm just preparing myself for the big 4 (Clowney, Mack, Matthews, Robinson) being gone by pick 6 and it will make me very sad Go BPA and take Watkins. 
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Parmesan Basil posted:The only question we need to ask about #2 is who is going to trade up into that spot once Houston passes on Clowney. Browns, but to draft the second-best QB left.
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Atticus Finch posted:Falcons. I'm resigned to it being the Raiders and having him gently caress us up twice a year for fifteen years or so.
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What's this Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 7m Source: Johnny Manziel spotted in New England, set for a visit with the #Patriots tomorrow. Agent @ErikBurkhardt would not confirm.
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Vertical Lime posted:What's this They need a WR
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How about a healthy mix of criticism AND confirmation biasquote:NBC Sports' Shaun King expressed concern with Texas A&M QB Johnny Manziel's "extracurricular activities" and mechanics.
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Vertical Lime posted:What's this Get the gently caress in.
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Feisty, I like itquote:Fresno State QB Derek Carr told Cleveland.com that he's the best QB in the draft and he welcomes competing with Brian Hoyer for the Browns' starting gig.
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Chilichimp posted:He should have taken the Eli route and demanded to be traded from the awful, awful Chargers. I don't think you understand the difference between the top overall pick and a 2nd round QB who was a hair over six feet tall.
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This is the  look of a guy who doesn't even put Bridgewater in the 1st round. http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/mock-drafts/bryan-fischer/200651
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Shath Hole posted:I'm just preparing myself for the big 4 (Clowney, Mack, Matthews, Robinson) being gone by pick 6 and it will make me very sad Seriously, how loving terrible is that team... they turned the ball over like 15 times and Atlanta let them back in... and Cousins still hosed it up.
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ROSS MY SALAD posted:I don't think you understand the difference between the top overall pick and a 2nd round QB who was a hair over six feet tall. It was a joke, and... apparently the joke is on the Draft Guru's, because Brees is so much better than Eli. Chilichimp fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Apr 2, 2014 |
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Chilichimp posted:It was a joke, and... apparently the joke is on the Draft Guru's, because Brees is so much better than Eli. maybe in terms of owning fast food franchises but not in terms of Super Bowls
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Brees was Russell Wilson before Russell Wilson came along, and Purdue isn't exactly a QB factory. It's not hard to see why he fell to the 2nd round.
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Purdue...sort of is a QB factory though? Historically at least they punch way above their weight. This is probably less true by the time Brees came around but you've heard of a lot of Purdue quarterbacks whether you realize it or not. e: None of them have been hall of famer good (or outside of Orton even arguably good) since the 60s other than Brees of course, but it always surprises me how many have had long NFL careers. Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Apr 2, 2014 |
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Purdue is called the cradle of QBs for a reason: http://www.purduesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/craddle-of-quarterbacks.html Doltos fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Apr 2, 2014 |
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Albert Breer @AlbertBreer 31m The idea of Gronk and jff being on the same team just hit me ... Wow. Gonna take a while to process that. Please god, do not deny us this.
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Intruder posted:Curtis Painter Was pretty good in college and played in the NFL. Most colleges would kill to say they had that many NFL QBs.
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Curtis Painter shouldn't count. Being The Manning's personal assistant isn't the same as being an NFL QB, and I don't care how many "starts" you get while the real QB is injured.
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Oh contraire, being Eli's backup means you have a shot at playing next year when he's benched I wanna see Nassib though, not Painter.
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Butthead posted:Curtis Painter shouldn't count. Being The Manning's personal assistant isn't the same as being an NFL QB, and I don't care how many "starts" you get while the real QB is injured. Three (eventual) hall of famers, Jim Rome favorite Jim Everett, Sophia favorite Kyle Orton and TFF favorite Jeff George say that you don't need to count Painter if you don't want to. I mean seriously this is Purdue we're talking about.
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