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QuiteEasilyDone
Jul 2, 2010

Won't you play with me?

Malkar posted:

My company has a Chief Technology Evangelist. And an evangelism team. But, it's a start-up, so evangelism is kind of important?

It's what put the GoP to Greatness(?)

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Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster
Pillbug

Sickening posted:

Lets talk about titles again. Here is one I saw today for a vmware webinar.

Ben Goodman
Lead Evangelist, End-User Computing

It screams to me "please look at how big of a douche I am".

My last gig had a CIO "Chief Innovations Officer". After 10 years with the title he still hasn't delivered that first innovation yet. :smith:

Was he a vExpert by chance? I do see that intermingled sometimes.

https://twitter.com/benontech

Oh yeah that guy looks like a vExpert but I have no idea why he is wearing Evangelist on it.

Dilbert As FUCK fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Apr 2, 2014

slightpirate
Dec 26, 2006
i am the dance commander
Not pissing me off: I've been given the green light to find a replacement for our Avocent 1016 KVM all because, near as we can tell, it doesn't allow us to hotkey switch between attached devices. Any suggestions on replacing / upgrading this beast so I can attach our new Win 7 deployments to it as we start to roll them out?

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Malkar posted:

My company has a Chief Technology Evangelist. And an evangelism team. But, it's a start-up, so evangelism is kind of important?

Are you drinking the coolaid too?

evol262
Nov 30, 2010
#!/usr/bin/perl

Malkar posted:

My company has a Chief Technology Evangelist. And an evangelism team. But, it's a start-up, so evangelism is kind of important?

If you have to evangelize it to get people to use it, it's a bad product, honestly. Evangelists are almost always the ones trying to convince me that "no, Node.js is a better systems programming language than Python. Look at the concurrency! That's why you should use dump all your stuff into our webservice that does the same thing as iCloud, because it's written in ${cool_javascript_framework}!"

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

If you have a problem Yo, I'll solve it

Malkar posted:

My company has a Chief Technology Evangelist. And an evangelism team. But, it's a start-up, so evangelism is kind of important? where else will the ceo's frat buddies work?

This is worse than a "Chief Strategy Officer"

Mr. Clark2
Sep 17, 2003

Rocco sez: Oh man, what a bummer. Woof.

sfwarlock posted:

But... but I had stuff open! You destroyed my stuff! WAAAAAAH!

We sent out an email pretty much saying "Users need to reboot in order to complete the upgrade process, any that dont will have it done for them automatically and may lose data. Too bad so sad"

Lum
Aug 13, 2003

Bob Morales posted:

Our dress code is company-wide but enforcement is really by department. Most of the girls wear black yoga pants and big droopy shirts but I came on casual Friday without a collared shirt and got an email from my boss.

It's one of the few advantages we get, though as a method of protest against the lack of aircon and non-openable windows it does tend to backfire if your boss is a bit of a perv. (Turned up wearing something like this only shorter and white, and a pair of sandals, only to get a comment that we're definitely not getting aircon fitted now.)

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

If you have a problem Yo, I'll solve it

Lum posted:

It's one of the few advantages we get, though as a method of protest against the lack of aircon and non-openable windows it does tend to backfire if your boss is a bit of a perv. (Turned up wearing something like this only shorter and white, and a pair of sandals, only to get a comment that we're definitely not getting aircon fitted now.)

If you didn't storm out to contact HR right then and there, at least tell us you went on a 15 minute tirade berating the commentor in front of the entire office for that.

Orcs and Ostriches
Aug 26, 2010


The Great Twist
Last summer they decided to keep the A/C off here for cost savings. For a while it wasn't terrible for anyone with a window (the IT department doesn't have windows). It didn't help matters that I usually had a stack of computers getting imaged all the time, so add that to a hot room with no airflow. Eventually we opened the back door, which brought it down below 32C again. That pissed off people from the other side of the building, because they're afraid of snakes, so we had to keep the door closed again.

I was getting ready to bring a laptop, earplugs, and a coat, and just move into the server room, but they gave in and turned the A/C on again.

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.

Malkar posted:

My company has a Chief Technology Evangelist. And an evangelism team. But, it's a start-up, so evangelism is kind of important?

"Evangelism" seems to begetting more and more common in titles. Same with Innovation. I was part of my last job's "Innovation"team. They broguht ina VP that slashed the budget and locked down all of our computers. Yay!

Lum posted:

It's one of the few advantages we get, though as a method of protest against the lack of aircon and non-openable windows it does tend to backfire if your boss is a bit of a perv. (Turned up wearing something like this only shorter and white, and a pair of sandals, only to get a comment that we're definitely not getting aircon fitted now.)
I'm a woman and this pisses me off. Have some goddamn pride. One of my previous colleague used to wear her Ugg boots to client meetings. It was pretty hard to take her seriously.

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
FREE TIBET WEED

Orcs and Ostriches posted:

I was getting ready to bring a laptop, earplugs, and a coat, and just move into the server room, but they gave in and turned the A/C on again.

I wonder how long you would have to leave the AC off to offset the cost of one developer or network admin slumped in his chair unable to think of anything but, "nope. nope nope nope. nope. nope.," for one day.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Orcs and Ostriches posted:

That pissed off people from the other side of the building, because they're afraid of snakes, so we had to keep the door closed again.

Do you work in a jungle?

Orcs and Ostriches
Aug 26, 2010


The Great Twist

Bob Morales posted:

Do you work in a jungle?

Prairie. To be fair, there was a little garter snake that would sun itself on the concrete steps outside of the door, but why the hell would he come inside onto cold tile when he's got a nice hot pad to lay on?

We couldn't even shove a bit of plywood in the door to block the bottom, incase it was the vertical climbing variety of harmless yard snake.

stevewm
May 10, 2005

Wiggly posted:

Close (except for the power supply): http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/desktops/thinkcentre/m-series-tiny/m73/

We just bought a bunch of these to replace the last of our XP machines. The SSD makes deploying them so much faster and the users love them.


We just opened a branch location using these. I bought the VESA mounting bracket (http://www.provantage.com/lenovo-0b47374~7LEN93E3.htm) and mounted them to the back of the monitors.

I love them, users love them. They are fast, silent, and out of the way. They do use a external power brick, but its no bigger than your average laptop brick, I just hid it under the desk.

mewse
May 2, 2006

stevewm posted:

I love them, users love them.

Are you running windows 8.1 on them?

SyNack Sassimov
May 4, 2006

Let the robot win.
            --Captain James T. Vader


peter banana posted:

I'm a woman and this pisses me off. Have some goddamn pride. One of my previous colleague used to wear her Ugg boots to client meetings. It was pretty hard to take her seriously.

Not that Lum needs whiteknighting or anything, but this seems like a textbook reaction of "don't dress unprofessionally and make sure to hide the fact that you're a woman"?

mewse
May 2, 2006

Potato Alley posted:

Not that Lum needs whiteknighting or anything, but this seems like a textbook reaction of "don't dress unprofessionally and make sure to hide the fact that you're a woman"?

Yep. People need to make sure they avoid commenting on women's clothing. They are the fairer sex and can't really handle the criticism.

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

If you have a problem Yo, I'll solve it

The way to ultimately resolve Lum's situation is to have the neckbeard two desks down come in the day after the white sundress incident in a kilt and tubetop. "She gets to do it, and please let me start this video camera while you tell me I can't dress in the same manner of other employees because of my gender. MY GENDER DOES NOT DEFINE ME"

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

If you have a problem Yo, I'll solve it

mewse posted:

Yep. People need to make sure they avoid commenting on women's clothing. They are the fairer sex and can't really handle the criticism.

"Let's keep the temperature artifically high so that women expose more skin" is not really criticism, in fact it's not criticism at all.

EAT THE EGGS RICOLA
May 29, 2008

oh good this is a good place for this thread to go

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

If you have a problem Yo, I'll solve it

It's not terribly off topic, lack of gender diversity is a massive problem in the industry that's well documented, as is misogyny. Interestingly enough, there's not too much of a wage gender gap recent studies are showing, and that's almost exclusive to computer professionals.

EAT THE EGGS RICOLA
May 29, 2008

Can I stop Win XP machines from connecting through VPN to a cisco asa?

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

EAT THE EGGS RICOLA posted:

Can I stop Win XP machines from connecting through VPN to a cisco asa?

Yep, you are going to need to point it at a radius server and install nap. You can enforce computer account authentication and then separate the xp computer accounts accounts. Only let the windows 7 ones in.

evol262
Nov 30, 2010
#!/usr/bin/perl

Paladine_PSoT posted:

there's not too much of a wage gender gap*

*one year after graduation

The gender gap still widens considerably as careers lengthen. Nothing about IT and gender relations is good, really.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?

evol262 posted:

*one year after graduation

The gender gap still widens considerably as careers lengthen. Nothing about IT and gender relations is good, really.

Yeah, there are 4 girls who work in support where I am. One is amazing and has started making sexist and racist jokes about English guys (which is going get to someone in trouble someday, as it was in response to some of my workmates doing it to her), one is an old lady who creeps me the gently caress out, one is a bit dumb who asks me for help constantly and one is a manager who just bitches at people not writing up their tickets while running commands on someones pc (which is loving stupid, let me write up what I did after, rather than stopping every minute to jot down notes).

So basically, i've only met one woman in IT that I actually like and the only way she's gotten on without the blokes disliking her is because she's just started making sexist and racist jokes back at them. This makes me sad as hell, because I used to know a lot of IT students who were all really, really good, but they ended up getting admin roles at companies, because companies seem to only hire girls to do admin work and guys to do support. Its loving dumb.

Fake edit: Tell a lie, I know one more, who had a massive problem with self esteem and tried saying that I was being both sexist and talking down to her because of her age (which is dumb, she's like 10 years older than me). I have a feeling she's defensive as hell because of the attitudes of people in the industry.

VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV

Honestly, when it comes to workwear, i'm just pissed I have to sit in a hot as gently caress room, taking calls in a shirt and suit trousers. Let me wear loving shorts and a t-shirt dammit! :argh:

dogstile fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Apr 2, 2014

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.

Potato Alley posted:

Not that Lum needs whiteknighting or anything, but this seems like a textbook reaction of "don't dress unprofessionally and make sure to hide the fact that you're a woman"?

Nothing's going to hide the fact that you're a woman, though. I was called "sweetie" in a an interview yesterday, sort of by accident. Wearing Ugg boots isn't inherently feminine, just poor judgement around the people who pay you. Also, I like looking nice, so, maybe I'm biased.

SyNack Sassimov
May 4, 2006

Let the robot win.
            --Captain James T. Vader


peter banana posted:

Wearing Ugg boots isn't inherently feminine, just poor judgement

Absolutely agreed 100% on that. I don't know, obviously Lum didn't post what exactly she was wearing, but the thing she posted didn't seem like the dress equivalent of wearing Uggs - just seemed like a dress.

Anyway, although the inequality issue is certainly a big one in our industry it's probably not where the thread should go, so apologies for dragging things off course.

poo poo that pisses me off - people who don't listen to us, pay experts to come in and have those experts tell them the exact same things we've been telling them, and then refuse to listen to the experts. That they paid. Guess what, wireless is a collision domain. Trying to get 150-200 devices in a 60x30 foot space to all connect at high speed and with heavy usage patterns in the insane wireless environment of downtown SF (literally hundreds of SSIDs show up when you look), will cost money. A lot of money. Trying to get by on almost consumer-grade equipment just won't cut it, and no amount of configuration tweaking will change that. How about you plug the gently caress in when you're sitting at your desk, like every single expert you've hired has told you to do.

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster
Pillbug
poo poo not pissing me off? Lunch is 30 minutes at my new job, I know it sounds weird but I hate 1 hour lunches, I'd rather just come in at 8:30 and not 8.

poo poo that is pissing me off? Dealing with HP bullshit firmware update process. Holy poo poo does it suck.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair
Oh God, I think the thread title may have come true. Apparently my company is switching up how cases get assigned (nobody has told me poo poo about the details and I don't really care until it actually effects me) and we were all asked how things have been going since they implemented it and I was the only one who answered "Nothing has changed for me, I get jobs added to my schedule and I go to them." and I'm not sure if my boss was kidding when he kind of quizzically when "Hmmmmmmmm, ok then."

TWBalls
Apr 16, 2003
My medication never lies

Dilbert As gently caress posted:

poo poo not pissing me off? Lunch is 30 minutes at my new job, I know it sounds weird but I hate 1 hour lunches, I'd rather just come in at 8:30 and not 8.

poo poo that is pissing me off? Dealing with HP bullshit firmware update process. Holy poo poo does it suck.

The places that offered 1 hr lunches made you take the full hour? We get the option of up to 1 hr, but most of us only take 30 mins, so that we can go home that much earlier. Still nice to have the option though, on days that we have some quick errands to run during lunch break.

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster
Pillbug

TWBalls posted:

The places that offered 1 hr lunches made you take the full hour? We get the option of up to 1 hr, but most of us only take 30 mins, so that we can go home that much earlier. Still nice to have the option though, on days that we have some quick errands to run during lunch break.

Not all, my last place did, but none of them had the option of heading out 30 minutes early or come in 30 minutes late.

Alliterate Addict
Jul 10, 2012

dreaming of that face again

it's bright and blue and shimmering

grinning wide and comforting me with it's three warm and wild eyes
Ugh, hourly IT always sounds lovely to me. I've got a friend working as a dev for a company that's giving him crap because his weeks tend to look like "7.97, 7.96, 7.98, 7.97, 8.5", and his boss gave him a "low" rating for "Being at work during core hours".

Of course, I guess that requires the company be good about work/life balance and not forcing unpaid overtime explicitly or implicitly, but filing hours has always been one of those things that just leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go

TWBalls posted:

The places that offered 1 hr lunches made you take the full hour? We get the option of up to 1 hr, but most of us only take 30 mins, so that we can go home that much earlier. Still nice to have the option though, on days that we have some quick errands to run during lunch break.
My wife (this isn't IT so I don't even know why the gently caress I'm still typing) works as a contractor, where they shoot for the best of both worlds - you must absolutely without exception take a 1 hour lunch, buuuuut we're going to forget you're on lunch about 35 minutes in and hit you up for a meeting/project/group think/yada yada.

It's the kind of thing you want to screen in a job interview when they ask if you have any questions, but it's so hard to bring it up. "Yes, do you require timesheets broken down meticulously by project in 15 minute increments as well as mandatory and scheduled lunch times as well as rigid times for the day to start and stop, or do you hire adults?"

e: I should talk, though. I have to do timesheets broken down by project. I've turned in the same 53 hour timesheet something like 36 consecutive weeks and no one has said a word.

e2: Found footage, MC Fruit Stripe turning in time sheets: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v38lu0Bi0Kk&t=38s

MC Fruit Stripe fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Apr 3, 2014

evol262
Nov 30, 2010
#!/usr/bin/perl

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

e: I should talk, though. I have to do timesheets broken down by project. I've turned in the same 53 hour timesheet something like 36 consecutive weeks and no one has said a word.
I loved getting emails every two weeks telling me my project allotments. Oh, I worked 13.4 hours on project X, 6.1 on Y, and so forth? None of which I've ever heard of? And I have to dump those numbers into Oracle self-service every two weeks so some random budget looks right? Awesome.

Dilbert As gently caress posted:

poo poo not pissing me off? Lunch is 30 minutes at my new job, I know it sounds weird but I hate 1 hour lunches, I'd rather just come in at 8:30 and not 8.
If I worked at a company that required 9-5 (instead of 7-3, arbitrarily, but 10-6 or whatever is equally valid) I'd :suicide:

I get working together as a team and all that. But schedule meetings late morning/early afternoon, don't force me to take a lunch or meet some notion of "office hours", et al.

Partycat
Oct 25, 2004

Monday 9 am meetings are playing with fire. Meetings in general are scheduled around hour blocks, never 20 minutes or whatever is needed.

the time thing, we used to have to do that with CA Clarity for general process attribution but I think they figured out that we just guessed or whatever when.we had time to do it.

Orcs and Ostriches
Aug 26, 2010


The Great Twist

TWBalls posted:

The places that offered 1 hr lunches made you take the full hour? We get the option of up to 1 hr, but most of us only take 30 mins, so that we can go home that much earlier. Still nice to have the option though, on days that we have some quick errands to run during lunch break.

I thought most places we're like this. I basically have my start time, my end time, and I'm entitled to an hour lunch in the middle. If I skip or can't go to lunch, I still officially have to stay until the end. I think it's mostly to prevent petty office politics and whining, because people can't understand that not all jobs are equal.

Lum
Aug 13, 2003

Paladine_PSoT posted:

If you didn't storm out to contact HR right then and there, at least tell us you went on a 15 minute tirade berating the commentor in front of the entire office for that.

peter banana posted:

I'm a woman and this pisses me off. Have some goddamn pride. One of my previous colleague used to wear her Ugg boots to client meetings. It was pretty hard to take her seriously.

Welp, this one caused a bit of a shitstorm.

To put this into context, it's a small satellite office, a handfull of developers and a boss who is an ex developer, it's a roughly 50/50 mix of Welsh and English people. We're warned in advance by the boss on the rare days a visitor is coming but beyond that dress code is pretty easygoing (Don't go topless and don't wear shorts.) The banter from all of us (including me) would probably see us all fired if HR got wind of it. I think my description kind of made the bosses comment sound worse than it actually was. I took it as humour which is how it was intended.

Also I wasn't joking about how badly the heat effects me. I also have this wonderful thing where if I sweat I have an allergic reaction to the salt in the sweat that triggers an eczema flare up which raises skin temperature which... you get the idea.

The point I was making was that it was impossible for me to be productive in the temperatures the office was reaching. The next day someone was in to fix the windows so that they actually opened! The boss also relaxed the no shorts thing too, possibly as a result of me being smug at him while he was overheating!

edit:

Paladine_PSoT posted:

The way to ultimately resolve Lum's situation is to have the neckbeard two desks down come in the day after the white sundress incident in a kilt and tubetop. "She gets to do it, and please let me start this video camera while you tell me I can't dress in the same manner of other employees because of my gender. MY GENDER DOES NOT DEFINE ME"

Oh god if one of the guys was going to do that to add to my point I would have lent him the bloody dress! (and then washed it in bleach when I got it back).

And yeah it's just a white sundress. Not like I turned up in one of my Black Milk bodycon dresses that have ridiculous prints and barely cover my arse since they're designed for women 4-6" shorter than me..

Lum fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Apr 3, 2014

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster
Pillbug

Ursine Asylum posted:

Ugh, hourly IT always sounds lovely to me. I've got a friend working as a dev for a company that's giving him crap because his weeks tend to look like "7.97, 7.96, 7.98, 7.97, 8.5", and his boss gave him a "low" rating for "Being at work during core hours".

Of course, I guess that requires the company be good about work/life balance and not forcing unpaid overtime explicitly or implicitly, but filing hours has always been one of those things that just leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

I'm salaried, but I'd much rather take the come in at 8:30, or leave at 4:30 and take a 30 minute lunch, than do 8-5.


E: And yeah most places I've worked at have been you forget you went to lunch after 30 minutes so I am going to email/text/call/ask you to do X.

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Prosthetic_Mind
Mar 1, 2007
Pillbug
In terms of responding to emails after hours, I'm probably part of the problem but I'll send out emails while I'm working as I think of them because other times I tend to forget.

And I tend to like to front load my hours in a week, last week was a bit of an extreme example where I worked 16 hours monday and 6 or so for the rest of the days that week, and my boss answered some of the emails I sent out at around 1 am and I told him to go to sleep.

I thought the whole point of email was supposed to be that it's asynchronous. I don't even check mine when I'm not in the office, if someone emails me I read it first thing when I come in. If it's an emergency they can call my manager who's the only person in the company that has my cell phone number.

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