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Dacap posted:I disagree. That faceplate is kind of the defining physical characteristic of the character, it just doesn't seem right without it. Oh come on, let's not pretend Deathlok is some high profile character, fans longed for years to see in live action. The preview pictures were disappointing because they looked cheap, not because they didn't adhere to the comic book look.
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I still wish they would show him arguing with 'Puter
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Apr 3, 2014 15:15
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e X posted:Oh come on, let's not pretend Deathlok is some high profile character, fans longed for years to see in live action. The preview pictures were disappointing because they looked cheap, not because they didn't adhere to the comic book look. He was pretty fun in X-force, and Wolverine and the X-Men recently. Humbug Scoolbus posted:I still wish they would show him arguing with 'Puter I'm pretty sure Shield's going to get him back at some point, maybe he'll get an argumentative AI then.
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Apr 3, 2014 15:40
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Hey, that wasn't a terrible episode of AoS! Of course, mashing Titus Welliver, Bill Paxton, Brad Dourif's crazy eyes and Deathlok together in one episode is going to be hard not to enjoy on some level.
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Apr 3, 2014 15:43
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redbackground posted:Hey, that wasn't a terrible episode of AoS! Of course, mashing Titus Welliver, Bill Paxton, Brad Dourif's crazy eyes and Deathlok together in one episode is going to be hard not to enjoy on some level. But why bring in Brad Dourif for a one-shot red herring? At least give him something to do, for pete's sake!
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Apr 3, 2014 16:09
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Dacap posted:I disagree. That faceplate is kind of the defining physical characteristic of the character, it just doesn't seem right without it. They can always save it for a big reveal (ie when their budget allows for it) and have him get burned Terminator style or something
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Apr 3, 2014 16:27
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Opopanax posted:They can always save it for a big reveal (ie when their budget allows for it) and have him get burned Terminator style or something I'm kinda hoping they go this route, make him a comic'ed up Terminator, and have his skin/human bits continue to atrophy/rot off. Edit: I do think the faceplate is lame on its own, though.
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Apr 3, 2014 16:35
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Actors and directors love lengthy make up processes where you have to work your shooting schedule around it.
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Apr 3, 2014 16:38
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greatn posted:Actors and directors love lengthy make up processes where you have to work your shooting schedule around it. Well it's a necessary evil for genre productions. See also: every sci-fi, fantasy, and horror production ever.
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Error 404 posted:Well it's a necessary evil for genre productions. And a necessary evil for television is it has to be fast and can look cheap as hell.
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Apr 3, 2014 16:42
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If Ron Perlman spent 6 hours a day in 1989 to be a lion in a soap opera you would think making a dude look like a robot for the foundation of the TV branch of a multi-billion dollar franchise in the year of our lord 2014 wouldn't be out of the question.
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Apr 3, 2014 16:47
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Mr. Maltose posted:If Ron Perlman spent 6 hours a day in 1989 to be a lion in a soap opera you would think making a dude look like a robot for the foundation of the TV branch of a multi-billion dollar franchise in the year of our lord 2014 wouldn't be out of the question. For fucks sake they even did it on Star Trek in the 60s. It's not like it's a controversial idea here.
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Apr 3, 2014 16:50
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I don't understand why someone who isn't on the production team should ever factor in the production process when judging if the finished product is fun or not. Even if there's a very good reason the show looks cheap and has no fun visuals, the show still looks cheap and has no fun visuals.
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Apr 3, 2014 17:23
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I cants imagine a solid metal faceplate is any harder to put on than all the burn make up
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Apr 3, 2014 17:26
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Gaz-L posted:But why bring in Brad Dourif for a one-shot red herring? At least give him something to do, for pete's sake! When I saw his name in the credits, I was "oh great, there's the Clairvoyant" and was really disappointed, but nope red herring. I preferred that actually.
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Apr 3, 2014 19:48
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Yeah it's sneaky as all hell and takes advantage of the fact that people like us will read the credits and make assumptions based on that. I too was snowed in by the Dourif credit and it was a nice surprise when things didn't work out the way I expected.
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Apr 3, 2014 20:15
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Hahaha, I had the same reaction when I saw his name in the opening credits. Good on them for pulling that one off.
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As someone who only has a passing familiarity with the comics, is all this leading to the civil war stuff, or is this going in another direction?
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Apr 3, 2014 20:48
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LorneReams posted:As someone who only has a passing familiarity with the comics, is all this leading to the civil war stuff, or is this going in another direction? Other direction. You need superheroes to do Civil War.
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Apr 3, 2014 20:51
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LorneReams posted:As someone who only has a passing familiarity with the comics, is all this leading to the civil war stuff, or is this going in another direction? Nah, Shield didn't really play a big role in Civil War, asides from Iron Man being the director at that time. Shield is generally not really a big factor in the comics, asides from being a pain in the rear end for the heroes and a convenient explanation for the day-to-day administration stuff.
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LorneReams posted:As someone who only has a passing familiarity with the comics, is all this leading to the civil war stuff, or is this going in another direction? If anything, its leading to Dark Reign. Victoria Hand was a fairly major character in that. I'll spoil it just in case you or others don't want to know what happened in the comics, and based on some of TWS spoilers Essentially, Shield and the Avengers become discredited though a bunch of poo poo, like a Skrull invasion and other events, that heals to Norman Osborn, the Green Goblin, to become the new Nick Fury with his own version of SHIED, HAMMER, which is really just elements Hydra and Aim mashed together. His avengers all have regular Avenger names, but instead have Villains filling the Rolls; Osborn is Iron Patriot, Bullseye is Hawkeye, Venom is Spiderman, Daken (wolverines evil son) is wolverine, Moonstone (a Ms Marvel Villain) is Ms Marvel. Eventually they get exposed and Fury and the Avengers get back to where they are supposed to be.
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Apr 3, 2014 21:18
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It's funny that while never reading any of this, I ended up learning about it from the Marvel Bejeweled clone.
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Apr 3, 2014 21:22
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Honestly Dark Reign was a pretty great idea, but pretty much like all Marvel events, it was pretty lackluster in its execution. Well, at least we got a pretty great Ares mini out of it.
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Apr 3, 2014 21:24
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e X posted:Honestly Dark Reign was a pretty great idea, but pretty much like all Marvel events, it was pretty lackluster in its execution. Well, at least we got a pretty great Ares mini out of it. Dark Avengers was awesome.
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Apr 3, 2014 21:25
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bobkatt013 posted:Dark Avengers was awesome. I really liked the Ms Marvel issues focusing on Moonstone. Moonstone is kinda the Marvel version of Harle Quinn I just realized.
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twistedmentat posted:I really liked the Ms Marvel issues focusing on Moonstone. Moonstone is kinda the Marvel version of Harle Quinn I just realized. Except the comics are more consistent that Karla's a good shrink, just really amoral. Harley ping-pongs between 'talented but naive' and 'dumb as a plank and hosed her way to a degree'.
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Apr 3, 2014 22:39
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bobkatt013 posted:Dark Avengers was awesome. Agreed. 
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The Dark Avengers talking about how loving hard it is to hero all the time and wondering if they get vacation days is one of the greatest moments in comics, but there's no way to transfer that to AoS.
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Civil War was a great loving idea ruined by the pro reg side being evil as gently caress about it
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Mr. Maltose posted:Really, they should just say gently caress it and turn Agents into Joss Whedon's Marvel Sentai. The Helicarrier can turn into a guy in a rubber suit and box Fin Fang Foom. You're closer to the truth than you think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gInrQl-Z30 
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That's not sentai, that's Pokemon. It looks like the better kind of ridiculous, too.
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Dexo posted:Civil War was a great loving idea ruined by the pro reg side being evil as gently caress about it And when they are forced to face it directly it makes them feel really lovely, well, at least Ms Marvel felt like crap with tracking down a woman to separate her forcibly from her daughter.
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Lars Blitzer posted:You're closer to the truth than you think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gInrQl-Z30 That's loving terrible. This is so much worse. Remember to read right-to-left!(Slightly  for sexy talk)
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I thought Civil War was fine. This site says they've read the Constantine pilot and here's how they break it down: quote:
Nothing there stands out as particularly egregious, unlike the leaked Gotham pilot script that had Alfred telling Bruce to stop playing silly buggers.
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Civil War could have been great if most any of the authors were capable of maintaining a little moral ambiguity, vigilantism should be illegal after all, but going from "you can't run around trying to arrest people without any legitimated authority" to "If you have powers and you don't willingly join our fascist hierarchy we will send you to torture prison in another dimension (also murderous clone robots)"
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zoux posted:Nothing there stands out as particularly egregious, unlike the leaked Gotham pilot script that had Alfred telling Bruce to stop playing silly buggers. Eh, all Chas should know about the supernatural is that it exist and the dark art of the tire iron.
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Dr. MonkeyThunder posted:Eh, all Chas should know about the supernatural is that it exist and the dark art of the tire iron. Also his mom had an evil monkey that John took care of.
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That monkey story 
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Dr. MonkeyThunder posted:Eh, all Chas should know about the supernatural is that it exist and the dark art of the tire iron. Chas not knowing anything was part of what kept him alive. Ignorance wasn't just bliss in vertigo magic it was armor.
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