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Ringo Roadagain
Mar 27, 2010

Guyver posted:

It ended a couple months ago, after 15 years spanning 20 volumes.
Nope. Still not over

Washizu just had some sort of near death experience and has come back. He appears to be super hosed up through.

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Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

The Black Stones posted:

Nope. Don't do it. Especially if you plan to read stuff at work.

Can you elaborate a bit more like other people have on why, at least?

Tangents
Aug 23, 2008

Captain Invictus posted:

Steins Gate is something I've got on my watch list, yeah. Don't have much time to actually watch things though, which is why I prefer manga, since it's something I can read on my tablet at work.

If you'd rather read there's an LP of the visual novel in the lp archive. I seem to remember it getting criticism for being edited but I don't know if that got resolved. It's still a pretty good read either way, minus some iffy bits.

jonjonaug
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax

Gils posted:

If you'd rather read there's an LP of the visual novel in the lp archive. I seem to remember it getting criticism for being edited but I don't know if that got resolved. It's still a pretty good read either way, minus some iffy bits.

Please don't do this. Edited down, no video for important scenes when Miyano's doing some of his best work ever, no showing off different ways scenes can play out or how the game systems work, didn't show any of the alternate endings, didn't show the TIPS, etc.

It was A Bad Let's Play. The game itself is coming out officially in about one week (or a week and a month if you don't want to buy the Limited Edition version), so there's no point in reading a Let's Play of it (which for a visual novel is practically akin to piracy anyway) when you can go through the actual thing for yourself really soon.

jonjonaug fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Mar 25, 2014

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
ProfessorProf didn't even seem to like Steins;Gate, which kind of ruined most of the actual discussion in that thread.

Tangents
Aug 23, 2008

jonjonaug posted:

Please don't do this. Edited down, no video for important scenes when Miyano's doing some of his best work ever, no showing off different ways scenes can play out or how the game systems work, didn't show any of the alternate endings, didn't show the TIPS, etc.

It was A Bad Let's Play. The game itself is coming out officially in about one week (or a week and a month if you don't want to buy the Limited Edition version), so there's no point in reading a Let's Play of it (which for a visual novel is practically akin to piracy anyway) when you can go through the actual thing for yourself really soon.

Well, I wish I had known about this before reading it a while back. I hate reading visual novels compared to just a page of text, but since I did love what I saw, maybe I'll look at the full thing.

sparksbloom
Apr 30, 2006
I'm looking for a new show to start watching. I've really liked Madoka, FMA: Brotherhood, and once I got over my aversion to the fanbase, the LP of Dangan Ronpa - basically, ensemble casts with at least a few dynamic characters, and plots with depth but at least a little levity. (I liked Death Note in high school, too.) The first season of Princess Tutu hit the right spots for me, too, though I haven't really felt much need to watch the second season. Got about 9 episodes into Attack on Titan, but I dropped it because the only character I cared about was Armin.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

To be fair, editing down a VN to LP it isn't really a bad thing if done well.

Not showing off all the story/features though, that's a bad LP.

E: To clarify, let's say I were to LP Clannad (great VN, much better anim). I'd bloody well take an axe to the walls of text it throws at you at times, however I'd make sure to show off all the routes, the bad ends, all the possibilities for that girl's love trick. You'd get the clannad experience, even if you didn't get all the words.

Liking the VN helps, but is not essential

Namtab fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Mar 25, 2014

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Steins;Gate is pretty well paced and doesn't have much dead air (that I remember at least, it's been like two years since I read it) I'm not quite sure what could have been edited or cut that didn't add something to the narrative.

The Black Stones
May 7, 2007

I POSTED WHAT NOW!?

Captain Invictus posted:

Can you elaborate a bit more like other people have on why, at least?

It's incredibly fanservicey and not in a tolerable kind of way (from what I can remember for example it shows a girl a guy getting a blowjob and while it doesn't show any parts it's probably not something others would find appropriate.)

Other than that. The story is just really creepy and it's not like Monogatari where the story and characters make up for it. It's about a "Roman" club where all these guys vow to not have sex/do something with a girl and
if they don't they will get great jobs from previous members. The other members have weird perversions (one guy is fascinated with anal) and if I remember right the main character actually develops a little bit of a piss fetish. I will say that there are VERY VERY few moments that are actually kinda funny and nice, but it's not worth pretty much everything else.

Thanks for making me type all of that.

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

Bleusman posted:

I'm looking for a new show to start watching. I've really liked Madoka, FMA: Brotherhood, and once I got over my aversion to the fanbase, the LP of Dangan Ronpa - basically, ensemble casts with at least a few dynamic characters, and plots with depth but at least a little levity. (I liked Death Note in high school, too.) The first season of Princess Tutu hit the right spots for me, too, though I haven't really felt much need to watch the second season. Got about 9 episodes into Attack on Titan, but I dropped it because the only character I cared about was Armin.

You'd probably like Steins;Gate and Code Geass.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

Bleusman posted:

I'm looking for a new show to start watching. I've really liked Madoka, FMA: Brotherhood, and once I got over my aversion to the fanbase, the LP of Dangan Ronpa - basically, ensemble casts with at least a few dynamic characters, and plots with depth but at least a little levity. (I liked Death Note in high school, too.) The first season of Princess Tutu hit the right spots for me, too, though I haven't really felt much need to watch the second season. Got about 9 episodes into Attack on Titan, but I dropped it because the only character I cared about was Armin.
Nothing says "ensemble cast" better than Baccano! and/or Durarara!!.

Namtab posted:

E: To clarify, let's say I were to LP Clannad (great VN, much better anim). I'd bloody well take an axe to the walls of text it throws at you at times, however I'd make sure to show off all the routes, the bad ends, all the possibilities for that girl's love trick. You'd get the clannad experience, even if you didn't get all the words.
This seems a bit unfair, because CLANNAD the VN is such a god drat mess when it comes to obtuse structure and pacing problems. Even more so than a typical VN. Obviously they'd have to edit it down, because as-is it's just not LP-able.

ViggyNash
Oct 9, 2012

Nate RFB posted:

Nothing says "ensemble cast" better than Baccano! and/or Durarara!!.

Seconding, there's no show that fits "ensemble cast" better than those two.

Nate RFB posted:

This seems a bit unfair, because CLANNAD the VN is such a god drat mess when it comes to obtuse structure and pacing problems. Even more so than a typical VN. Obviously they'd have to edit it down, because as-is it's just not LP-able.

It really depends on the game. I don't think there was anything in Steins;Gate that needed to be cut out (though there was one bit, the low point of the VN, which the show replaced with something far better). The side routes aren't particularly necessary, but they aren't bad and are worth experiencing once at least.

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Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Nate RFB posted:

This seems a bit unfair, because CLANNAD the VN is such a god drat mess when it comes to obtuse structure and pacing problems. Even more so than a typical VN. Obviously they'd have to edit it down, because as-is it's just not LP-able.

I did pick an extreme example to make a point, but even so I'd imagine (having not actually got round to playing it) that the translation of Steins;Gate used for the LP in question contains times where the text is too flowery or just an arseload of ellipses.
It's not about cutting things out, it's about cutting down to make things less clunky, and to make things readable. You improve the flow a little for the reader, because you're presenting static text with a handful of images.

A better example may be the sister title Chaos;Head. There would be ways to improve the flow of the text for the reader. You'd also expect the LP to show off all three (iirc) endings, and the alternative red/green choices at appropriate intervals. I remember there being a few other things that have a minor effect, but iirc most of them are cosmetic.

Either way this fascinating discussion of how I'd LP a VN is prob better off in the VN thread.

Grenadier
Oct 15, 2004

As long as these commoners keep coming, the mountain of corpses will keep growing!

Captain Invictus posted:

no comments below yet:

Himizu(no idea)

Himizu is very well written. Caveats: pulpier than a fresh orange and bleak to the point of masochism. This coming from someone who enjoyed Oyasumi Punpun.

runawayturtles
Aug 2, 2004

Captain Invictus posted:

Alright! New list of series I've been recommended, seen being mentioned on here and was curious about, or saw in the random/popular list on Kissmanga. I'd like to know if they're good/bad/crimes against humanity, whether they're good all the way through or jump the shark at some point, etc:

no comments below yet:
Sundome(no idea)

Hah, this had to be a troll if it was mixed in with all those normal manga recommendations. As far as I know it's a fetish ecchi manga of some sort.

If you read it at work, I'd love to hear how that goes. :allears:

edit: To be fair, I don't know a few of the others in your list, so maybe they're similar.

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Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

TheEye posted:

Hah, this had to be a troll if it was mixed in with all those normal manga recommendations. As far as I know it's a fetish ecchi manga of some sort.

If you read it at work, I'd love to hear how that goes. :allears:

edit: To be fair, I don't know a few of the others in your list, so maybe they're similar.
It was a random find digging through the "most popular" pages one day, I believe. Or maybe someone linked it to me, or it was on the front page of Kissmanga? I don't remember how I found it, just that it was on a list of things to check out. It's also hilarious how misleading the summary of it on Kissmanga is:

quote:

Sundome is the story of an apathetic young man whose dull existence is forever changed when an assertive young woman wants to join the same after-school club in which he is a member. If only all after-school clubs were as hands on as this!
Indeed.

The Black Stones posted:

Thanks for making me type all of that.
Thanks for elaborating like everyone else had about their recommendations, at least, to give a better understanding of why! Doing some digging for reviews on it, and it seems all I'd need to know about it would be told by visiting the Baka-Updates page for it, with that wonderful list of categories. It's also apparently been licensed in English according to that page, which surprises me since googling it is absolutely :nws: and might as well be porn, even moreso than Prison School is, it seems. Yen Press, for your Yotsuba and Sundome needs.

And checking the comments on the BU page, it seems that (ending spoilers if you even care) the main girl is dying slowly throughout the series of Unnamed Bloody Cough Disease that so many side anime characters are afflicted by, except she's a main character and dies from it in the final chapter. So basically from spoilery summaries I've seen it actually might have been a good, sad and thoughtful story if they had cut out all of the really weird fetish poo poo. Instead it's nipples-through-shirts-a-go-go piss-fetish party time. A shame.

Grenadier posted:

Himizu is very well written. Caveats: pulpier than a fresh orange and bleak to the point of masochism. This coming from someone who enjoyed Oyasumi Punpun.
Wait, it's more bleak than Punpun? I've not read Punpun but everything I've heard is that it's possibly The Biggest Bummer.

Guyver
Dec 5, 2006

Ringo Roadagain posted:

Nope. Still not over

Washizu just had some sort of near death experience and has come back. He appears to be super hosed up through.
Really? Goddamn Fukumoto. I guess it's been going on long enough there's just no way to end it right.

DamnGlitch
Sep 2, 2004

I liked sundrome; it's very fetishistic and voyueristic and the characters are huge losers but it looks great and if you aren't afraid of the sex stuff (which is pervasive) the arc of the story is pretty nice.

It's not something to read at work. But really, don't read manga at work that's weird.

Really it feels more like a bizarre coming of age autobiography that got exaggerated more than say that manga about the guys who go to fetish highschool prison with the dean who loves asses.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

I think it's the sort of thing that can be lumped next to Onani Master Kurosawa, based on what I saw of it.

DamnGlitch
Sep 2, 2004

The payoff isn't quite as extreme but the backend is surprisingly touching so that's probably a decent comparison.

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Is Nobunaga The Fool worth watching? I tried giving it the 3-Episode Test™, and while it does seem cool (me am like the mecha :downs:), it does seem kind of bland outside the mechs.

Blhue
Apr 22, 2008

Fallen Rib
Its kind of okay I guess. Its one of the shows I've watched that's spent the season staying just barely above the minimum interest line at which I'd drop it. So it beat Hamatora and Magical Warfare for me at least.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

From what I have seen of it, it's neither offensive nor compelling. You could do a lot worse but you could also do a lot better.

ninjewtsu
Oct 9, 2012

Wark Say posted:

Daily Lives if High School Boys seems like just the thing you need.


HenryEx posted:

Daily Lives of High School Boys and Level E, man. Both amazing.

Hey guys, it's been a bit over a week but I wanted to come back in and say that I watched through Daily Lives of High School Boys and it was basically perfect. Thanks for having good taste goons!

EDIT: I don't suppose anyone knows if there'll be a season 2 of this? A second season was mentioned in the last episode but it's been a while.

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Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

KNEEL BEFORE THE WICKED KING!
So this morning I learned that Eden of the East wasn't some Neon Genesis Evangelion thing that I thought it was for the longest time, and thought the premise was interesting take on "random dudes thrown into a game of life and death", if only for the emphasis on life for a change. Ended up marathoning all 11 episodes in one go, but was left incredibly disappointed by the ending. "Hey Juiz, make me King of Japan." "And then Akira became king, the end! :v:" I know there's a couple of films, but I don't know how they fit in. Do they like continue on from there, or are they alternative takes on stuff or what? And are they worth watching if I liked most of the stuff from the main series?

And, hell, since I'm curious about it now, is there anything else with there being a bunch of people thrown into a game where the goal is to save people, instead of kill everyone else? I'd expect that there would be, but you never know.

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Dragonatrix posted:

So this morning I learned that Eden of the East wasn't some Neon Genesis Evangelion thing that I thought it was for the longest time, and thought the premise was interesting take on "random dudes thrown into a game of life and death", if only for the emphasis on life for a change. Ended up marathoning all 11 episodes in one go, but was left incredibly disappointed by the ending. "Hey Juiz, make me King of Japan." "And then Akira became king, the end! :v:" I know there's a couple of films, but I don't know how they fit in. Do they like continue on from there, or are they alternative takes on stuff or what? And are they worth watching if I liked most of the stuff from the main series?


The films continue from the end, but are really, really boring--and that's despite me liking the series a whole lot too.

RyuujinBlueZ
Oct 9, 2007

WHAT DID YOU DO?!

a kitten posted:

The films continue from the end, but are really, really boring--and that's despite me liking the series a whole lot too.

They kind of suffer from not really seeming to know how to handle having more than half an hour to pace their story bits out in, but the story in the series honestly isn't finished. If you want the whole thing, you really should watch the films. I just wouldn't quite expect them to be on par with the rest of the show.

Redcrimson
Mar 3, 2008

Second-stage Midboss Syndrome

Dragonatrix posted:

Eden of the East

The movies are a direct continuation of the series, but they're honestly not very good and I actually prefer the TV ending.

DamnGlitch
Sep 2, 2004

RyuujinBlueZ posted:

They kind of suffer from not really seeming to know how to handle having more than half an hour to pace their story bits out in, but the story in the series honestly isn't finished. If you want the whole thing, you really should watch the films. I just wouldn't quite expect them to be on par with the rest of the show.

The end in the Series doesn't tie everything up but is better, in that japanese don't-spell-everything-out way. The movies are okay but sorta meandering, and they definitely lack the punch of the TV end.

RyuujinBlueZ
Oct 9, 2007

WHAT DID YOU DO?!

DamnGlitch posted:

The end in the Series doesn't tie everything up but is better, in that japanese don't-spell-everything-out way. The movies are okay but sorta meandering, and they definitely lack the punch of the TV end.

I don't know, I liked the punch of the movie end myself. And if I remember right there's still some ambiguities. But yeah, the tv end is definitely more dramatic and and leaves more in the air. If they were going to make a live action Hollywood version or something, that would honestly be where I'd want them to stop.

ViggyNash
Oct 9, 2012

DamnGlitch posted:

The end in the Series doesn't tie everything up but is better, in that japanese don't-spell-everything-out way. The movies are okay but sorta meandering, and they definitely lack the punch of the TV end.

I saw it as less of a don't-spell-everything-out ending than a lets-explain-absolutely-nothing ending.

e: I wouldn't know about the movies, but I'd rather have something to work with than absolutely nothing.

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DamnGlitch
Sep 2, 2004

ViggyNash posted:

I saw it as less of a don't-spell-everything-out ending than a lets-explain-absolutely-nothing ending.

I prefer it over the "lets explain everything ploddingly" of the movies.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
I am about 80 chapters in to Yokohama Shopping Trip, and christ is it ever good at saying so much with so few or even no words. It is really just blowing me away with how good it is. It also is the most relaxing and peacefulness-inducing series I think I've read, I can really organize my thoughts while/after reading some chapters of it. And yet, though it may be other series I have read coloring my impression, but it has a tinge of melancholy to it that I fear is going to wind up resulting in a big bummer of an ending. That is probably just the setting of it reminding me of Ai-Ren though.

Really good poo poo, thanks to whoever it was who recommended it.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

Captain Invictus posted:

Really good poo poo, thanks to whoever it was who recommended it.
Everyone :colbert:

YKK is one of my all-time favorites. You've already touched upon many of the aspects that I enjoy, but I'd also add that the artwork is beautiful. Whimsical, even. Which like the story is impressive because it's so relatively simple. Does so much with so little.

VoLaTiLe
Oct 21, 2010

He's Behind you
So a friend suggested I watch Hunter x Hunter a show which I basically dismissed and despite hearing good things about didn't really give a flying gently caress about.

Well gently caress me was I wrong its a really decent anime with some really cool fight scenes.

If you were put off by the look of it I suggest giving it a spin.

Also Magi is pretty decent too the animation is top notch and its a fun watch

Smornstein
Nov 4, 2012
Is Saint Seiya any good literally all i know about it what little of the anime got dubbed and i only vaguely remember a little of it from when i was a kid.

muike
Mar 16, 2011

ガチムチ セブン
Which Saint Seiya? There's like 2, 3, if you count the science-fiction themed one

Guyver
Dec 5, 2006

Smornstein posted:

Is Saint Seiya any good literally all i know about it what little of the anime got dubbed and i only vaguely remember a little of it from when i was a kid.
If you like shonen battle anime the original Saint Seiya is decent. Don't expect a great story but there are some fun characters and some nicely animated violence.

The filler sections can be a bit of a drag but there's plenty of lists that will tell you which episodes to just skim through.

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Angry Lobster
May 16, 2011

Served with honor
and some clarified butter.

Guyver posted:

If you like shonen battle anime the original Saint Seiya is decent. Don't expect a great story but there are some fun characters and some nicely animated violence.

The filler sections can be a bit of a drag but there's plenty of lists that will tell you which episodes to just skim through.

The original Saint Seiya embodies all the tropes of shounen anime, including a dumb main character with incredibly thick plot armor, sometimes atrocious pacing and dumb writing, but it has it's charm. There's a recent prequel called Saint Seiya: The Lost Canvas that's surprisingly good.

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