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I have a pretty decent run going now on Stealth A, have two 2-burst lasers and the mini beam at sector 5, looking for a bomb I know the game won't give me, but besides that, as long as the flagship doesn't hack my cloak I think I'm good. It's nice that the game highlights which rooms the beam will hit now instead of having you guess.
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Control Volume posted:So in my first run in hard mode I got a burst laser III and burst laser I in addition to my starting burst laser, was feeling pretty hot. Is it just me or do the Lanius ships have crazy amounts of evasion? I had like the equivalent of 9 lasers and I only got through the 3 shield ones like half the time. This was on normal, multiple times. Or is my luck just poo poo. I got to the boss ship with the red tail, died to the last form. Mostly the same fight, but the addition of the mind control and hacking you just makes it that much harder to get through unscathed (I had two mantis boarders but no cloak)
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Apr 4, 2014 03:40
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Apr 4, 2014 03:46
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"The colonists hand over the supplies and you load it onto your ship. As you jump away, you crack it open and discover nothing more than vaccinations for a local plague". Ahem. I feel a little bad about that one.
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Apr 4, 2014 04:20
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Not gonna lie this is no fun, even on easy. I'm terrible at this game before but I could at least consistently beat it. Now I'm getting pummeled, even on easy. Oh, three jumps into the game and I'm boarded by three zoltans. Not to mention coming up against guys in the first space system that have three weapons systems, when the hell did that happen? This is easy motherfuckers I'm bad at this throw me a freakin bone here.
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Apr 4, 2014 04:22
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Alkydere posted:Start up the game. The Lanius is a freebie. I got Mantis C- kind of strange. 4 person teleporter, stun and crystal lockdown bombs (!), starts with engi, mantis and lanius crew. ps. rock + 3 mantis + boarding drone + mind control on Mantis B = zerg rush, drat Oh yeah, I also an event with some engi concerned about a defective 'bug' a mantis raised to be human, who will only talk to humans I saw blue options for mind control, human and mantis. Went with mind control which got me some generic scrap rewards.
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Apr 4, 2014 04:30
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Is Defense Drone I worse at intercepting missiles? Just missed three in a row and died. 
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Apr 4, 2014 04:31
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JayMax posted:Is Defense Drone I worse at intercepting missiles? Just missed three in a row and died. Seems to be  . But they made DDII cheaper and take 3 energy instead of 4.
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Apr 4, 2014 05:12
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I assume they noticed that the Defense Drone 2 wasn't actually any better and in some ways worse than defense drone 1, so they probably made defense drone 1 worse, and buffed defense drone 2. On the plus side maybe that means defense drone 2 is really good now?
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Apr 4, 2014 05:24
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Everything I knew is wrong.
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Apr 4, 2014 05:26
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Man, I love the Lanius ship. Get a mind control system to go with the hacker drone and you pretty much obviate the need for a boarding crew. The way the new guys suck the air out of rooms also makes them pretty great for fighting off people boarding you. Eat poo poo mantises. I had a pretty hilarious/hosed up encounter with a rebel ship that had a clone bay instead of a medbay, where I hit the O2 with a drone, destroyed it with my burst and chain lasers, then killed the crew off with a combination of mind control, shooting the compartments they were in, and oxygen deprivation. They would keep respawning, one by one, and suffocating trying to repair something or break into the O2 room, only to respawn again. I had the ship down to 1 hitpoint so I kind of let it go for a while hoping they'd stop being recloned, but eventually I said gently caress it and opened fire and put the poor fuckers out of their misery.
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Apr 4, 2014 05:41
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Hard mode is not loving around. I 100% this game a while back, and I wiped my save in anticipation of this dlc. All I've managed in hard mode is unlocking the engie ship, the deck is really stacked against you now. Engie A is a strong ship, I can't imagine beating hard on, say, stealth B. Also the AI has gotten relentless at teleporting, hope you can kill your borders quickly or they'll be back!
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Apr 4, 2014 05:41
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Just finished a mantis B run and regreted my choice of systems. I chose Mind Control when I probably would have gotten mre use out of Hacking, because all I was really able to do with MC was what I would probably do with hacking (read, keep it from dodgind so I can take out a medbay), and because it bugged out on me several times and the MC wouldn't refresh when the enemy died, or in a few cases, just never wore off. It is a pain in the rear end trying to kill a dude you can't kill with a Mantis team while trying not to destroy the enemy ship, let me tell you.
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Apr 4, 2014 05:56
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So I got all the way to the final boss with Fed Cruiser A, only to realise that I needed to do it with the B in order to unlock the new variant. Then I died to the final boss on stage 3 because its next jump was the base and I thought I didn't have time to go and repair. Then I found out that they've changed it so you have a few turns after the flagship reaches the base to kill it. 
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Apr 4, 2014 06:08
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Wow, the final boss got buffed! Stage 1 has hacking, and stage 3 has mind control. Every stage is as frightening as stage 2's drone swarm.
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Apr 4, 2014 06:21
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So far I've managed to unlock Fed, Stealth, Zoltan and Rock C's. I think Rock is the only one that doesn't look horrifyingly gimmicky. Fed C starts with the artillery beam, a teleporter, and no weapons  . At least the inclusion of the cloning bay makes the ol' "lose crew on artillery beamed ship" issue a non-issue.
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Apr 4, 2014 06:31
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Snow Job posted:Wow, the final boss got buffed! Stage 1 has hacking, and stage 3 has mind control. Every stage is as frightening as stage 2's drone swarm. Can anything on your own ship be hacked? Having the flagship instantly hack and turn off your engines then wreck your poo poo in the opening salvo would suck.
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Apr 4, 2014 06:36
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Snow Job posted:Wow, the final boss got buffed! Stage 1 has hacking, and stage 3 has mind control. Every stage is as frightening as stage 2's drone swarm. This is when I discovered that you can counter-Mind Control. You only need 1 power in the system to do it.
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Apr 4, 2014 06:38
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RBA Starblade posted:Can anything on your own ship be hacked? Having the flagship instantly hack and turn off your engines then wreck your poo poo in the opening salvo would suck. Yep. My bridge got hacked and set on fire during that fight so I got wrecked pretty bad.
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Apr 4, 2014 06:38
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RBA Starblade posted:Can anything on your own ship be hacked? Having the flagship instantly hack and turn off your engines then wreck your poo poo in the opening salvo would suck. 
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Apr 4, 2014 06:39
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I think hacking drones attach to one system and stay there for the entire fight, so if it gets a crucial system, it might be worth it to jump away and hope it lands on a less important system next time. I haven't actually tried this though, so I'm not sure how well it actually works.
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Apr 4, 2014 06:42
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Cheston posted:This is when I discovered that you can counter-Mind Control. You only need 1 power in the system to do it. You can hack the mind control room, which frees your guy and controls one of theirs.
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Apr 4, 2014 06:49
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RBA Starblade posted:Can anything on your own ship be hacked? Having the flagship instantly hack and turn off your engines then wreck your poo poo in the opening salvo would suck. I got hit in the O2. Thank God I upgraded it to 2 pips, otherwise my entire crew would have asphyxiated. Whenever it actiated it was like having all doors on the ship open. I was able to couter it but it still took up a power pip for the entire phase.
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Apr 4, 2014 07:10
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Holy gently caress, I cannot hit anything past sector 4. 3 shields plus crazy evasion wipes the floor with me.
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Apr 4, 2014 07:11
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It's pretty nasty when the flagship decides to immediately hack your shield system. Recovering from that is brutal depending how your ship is set up. Of course hacking their shield system is also amazingly effective. I have a hard time not doing hacking and mind control whenever possible because they are just so drat useful. A particular tactic I like is flinging a boarding bot over and then mind controlling whoever goes to fight it. So my one bot grows into a small boarding party and start wrecking shop. The crowning achievement was when I flung two bots over and mind controlled a guy on the flagship then hacked their mind control to reverse it back on another guy on the flagship. So two bots and two mind controlled dudes on the flagship just breaking everything. Space Skeleton fucked around with this message at 07:19 on Apr 4, 2014 |
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Apr 4, 2014 07:16
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Just made it to sector 7 in Zoltan A on hard, and only collected 857 scrap when I died. I still only had lvl 2 sheilds, I was flying this sloppy glass cannon for so long, it was fun. On a whim I bought a flak cannon to see how they'd do and was happily surprised that they clear sheilds so badassfully, making them a naural fit with the default halberd. Also the new shield drone gradually creates as Zoltan shield around you, which is nice against missles.
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Apr 4, 2014 07:21
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I don't think evasion rates were adjusted in any way, however the AI is now intelligent in how they distribute their excess power, so if you wipe out their shield or weapons systems that extra power will go to the engines...
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Apr 4, 2014 07:25
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Man, getting caught by the rebel fleet is now a very, very bad thing, especially early game. It used to be rough, but goddamn having battleships take potshots at you makes it so insanely deadly now.
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Apr 4, 2014 07:27
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RBA Starblade posted:Can anything on your own ship be hacked? Having the flagship instantly hack and turn off your engines then wreck your poo poo in the opening salvo would suck.
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Mazerunner posted:Oh yeah, I also an event with some engi concerned about a defective 'bug' a mantis raised to be human, who will only talk to humans I saw blue options for mind control, human and mantis. Went with mind control which got me some generic scrap rewards. I went Human on that event, and got an option to convince him to serve on ship. He started with green Repair for me.
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Mazerunner posted:Oh yeah, I also an event with some engi concerned about a defective 'bug' a mantis raised to be human, who will only talk to humans I saw blue options for mind control, human and mantis. Went with mind control which got me some generic scrap rewards. If you have a human crew member talk to the mantis, you get the option to "take them home" immediately and either ask for them as a crew member after or accept a scrap reward from their "family".
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Apr 4, 2014 07:31
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Dear mother of god the new Mothership isn't loving around in the slightest.
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Apr 4, 2014 07:56
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Got mind control and Hacking by sector 2 as Engi A. Possibly not the best use of my scrap, but hilarious to watch. Also, the game has being incessantly throwing crewmembers at me, I've had to reject a couple already. E: Also, if all your dudes are dead but some are regenerating in the cloning bay, is it still an instant loss or do you only lose if your cloning bay is destroyed?
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Inadequately posted:Got mind control and Hacking by sector 2 as Engi A. Possibly not the best use of my scrap, but hilarious to watch. Also, the game has being incessantly throwing crewmembers at me, I've had to reject a couple already. You have 2-3 seconds to power up (or finish repairing) your cloning bay before your dudes are lost for good. However there is an augment that saves your crew's data in such a situation (cloning bay depower/destruction).
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Someone asked, and I also wondered, what happens if the clone bay is destroyed while it has crew in its queue? I just found a store with a Backup DNA Bank, for 40 scrap, which says "Your crew is safe in clone storage even if the system is off or broken". Also, my first encounter with the boss post-update, flying Mantis A. Right before this I had been thinking "this is pretty good gear for Sector 4," apparently having zoned out through barely clinging to life through the ensuing three. Hack drone hit me in the shields, boss cloaked...as soon as the hack drained my shields, the lasers and beams absolutely wrecked my poo poo. As the sizzling remains of the bulkheads sang their song of death through the bodies of my crew, flames licking playfully across the...whatever burns, in a fighting starship...before twisting into a roaring, screaming hellscape, the boss decloaked and let off a missile volley. The good news was that all of the hull breaches were in rooms that were on fire, and had been evacuated. e: gently caress, beaten
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Vulcan Cannon  I got one in sector 6 or so, and proceeded to chew through every ship up to the boss. Worked pretty well there too, except I nearly died freaking out about mind control.On easy at least, since I'm a baby. The Lanius dudes are sweet too, especially the phat beats they drop when repairing. Getting a couple and some upgraded doors makes for a perfect "Get hosed, invaders" squad.
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Beat my first game for Adv. edition with Shiva. In the last battle I have 1 health left with a system burning with a quarter of the health remain, and the boss explosion animation just played out so slowly while I watch that little pip of health disappear, then in the very last second the credit roll, I won. Yeah!
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Apr 4, 2014 08:45
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I haven't played this game in well over a year, so I can't remember; didn't running out of fuel used to lead to a game over? If so, being able to send out a distress signal now is a nice feature.
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Lester Shy posted:I haven't played this game in well over a year, so I can't remember; didn't running out of fuel used to lead to a game over? If so, being able to send out a distress signal now is a nice feature. I can't swear to it "always" having been a feature, but the distress beacon was definitely not an Advanced Edition feature.
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jivjov posted:I can't swear to it "always" having been a feature, but the distress beacon was definitely not an Advanced Edition feature. Always a feature I'm pretty sure.
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