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The Puppy Bowl posted:Yeah but fine sucks. I want great. We already have Joe Flacco, and his knee might not still be hosed come regular season even, let's not get too greedy
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Sour Diesel posted:Torrey was one of the top receivers in the league for a good chunk of the season's first half. He was taking so much heat off of everyone else that Tandon Doss of all people looked halfway serviceable. If Marlon Brown wasn't a one year wonder, you have Torrey and Steve + Marlon. This is all on top of an offensive line that's already a huge upgrade from last year despite not even having a RT. So I guess I just haven't followed TFF offseason enough but are the offseason threads like the one place where Kawalimus posts get responded to with any sort of seriousness? Because that schtick doesn't get much play in any of the threads when the games are actually happening.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:While I agree with this 2014 is absolutely the year to gamble on a receiving talent and we've put our selves in a tough spot to do that. I'd rather the money spent on Smith went toward a solid FS so we didn't have to depend on a crazy young safety tandem, or some jag from St.Louis especially because we could then expand Marlon Brown's role while taking advantage of one of the best WR classes I can remember. It would be a risk but so is defending the back end with Matt Elam and some draft pick in a mediocre safety class. Besides, best case Steve Smith is a stop gap with a really high opportunity cost. Thankfully we have a pair of good corners. The defense was pretty good last season, they just got tanked in the 4th quarter from being on the field for 90% of the game. Jimmy seems to be living up to his potential and if he plays like he did last year when he was shutting receivers the gently caress down, it'll be pretty awesome. If Webb plays as well as last year that's fine as well, but he might be better this year after he's had even more time to rehab his knee. Having two good corners and a pretty nasty front 7 will make things easier on the safeties. I'm a bit bummed they don't go after Clemons or Manning for the position and I agree with you that the Steve Smith money would have been better spent there. Smith adds a bit more of a security blanket, since it's another reliable set of hands. Outside of Pitta I always hold my breath when a Baltimore receiver is attempting to catch a pass. I'm still getting used to trusting Torrey's hands even after a good season where he showed flashes of being an okay #1 receiver, heh. With Smith drawing some attention from defenses and being a reliable receiver, this opens up Torrey even more. He put up his best season while drawing all sorts of coverage. Now that there's a semi-guarantee of another receiving threat on the team, he'll be even more effective. If this draft is as stacked at receiver as everyone has been saying, it's not the worst thing in the world if Ozzie doesn't go after one in the 1st. Like Oberst said, as long as there is some kind of running attack it'll be an interesting offense to watch. Also remember we have an actual offensive coordinator (I keep forgetting we have one!). Deer_fire posted:So I guess I just haven't followed TFF offseason enough but are the offseason threads like the one place where Kawalimus posts get responded to with any sort of seriousness? Because that schtick doesn't get much play in any of the threads when the games are actually happening. Kawalimus is a nice guy and his posts give me an excuse to make effort-Ravens-posts in the offseason. Sour Diesel fucked around with this message at 09:38 on Apr 4, 2014 |
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Saints RFA Rafael Bush (FS) signs offer sheet with Falcons. Saints have until Apr 8th to match.
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Deer_fire posted:So I guess I just haven't followed TFF offseason enough but are the offseason threads like the one place where Kawalimus posts get responded to with any sort of seriousness? Because that schtick doesn't get much play in any of the threads when the games are actually happening. I don't usually post too much in the offseason I just comment every now and then when I see we've signed some players. But I see people saying this is a receiver-rich draft and now I remember it being said in the past so I will hope we can get a guy then who can put up some major production. If we have that amazing pass catcher it will improve the rest of our corps.
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Apr 4, 2014 13:00
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shiksa posted:It's a good thing Shannahan isn't in DC anymore then.
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Apr 4, 2014 13:27
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Tom Coughlin because of spectacular failure or whatever
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Apr 4, 2014 13:50
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Chris Gaines posted:Has there been any other multiple Super Bowl-winning coach who has been exposed for a complete fraud over the past several years? PED Carol and the Seadderall Seahawks? Controversy with players using PEDs at USC and shitloads of it in Seattle over his tenure there. Not sure that makes him a fraud, but it certainly doesn't look -good-. Not quite Belichick levels of cheating, but pretty close if he actually encourages PED use. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Chilichimp posted:PED Carol and the Seadderall Seahawks? Zing! This guy is on a roll! Heyooooo!
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I laughed but I have autism like whoa
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Not to be a pedant but he did say 'multiple' Super Bowl winning coach.
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Chris Gaines posted:Has there been any other multiple Super Bowl-winning coach who has been exposed for a complete fraud over the past several years? Not in the past several years but I think Billick is one of the big ones. He boasted when he came to Baltimore how he knew QBs so well then won a SB with a great defense. Who was his hand-picked QB who was going to carry our team?? Kyle Boller. Oh it was supposed to be multiple. Oh well I'm still leaving it. If we had gotten by Indianapolis in the 2006 playoffs there's a really good chance he would have been a multiple, fraud or no. Kawalimus fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Apr 4, 2014 |
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I know Trent Dilfer is poo poo and all that but it was funny when Billick decided to ditch him after winning the Super Bowl for Elvis "Sexiest Man Alive" Grbac and they somehow got worse.
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Chris Gaines posted:I know Trent Dilfer is poo poo and all that but it was funny when Billick decided to ditch him after winning the Super Bowl for Elvis "Sexiest Man Alive" Grbac and they somehow got worse. Actually I defend the hell out of the Grbac signing, Dilfer was AWFUL and Grbac was our best option. We could have drafted Brees but I don't think that was Billick's fault and tons of other teams passed on the guy too. And Heap was a good TE. Grbac got put into a really lovely situation. We let Priest Holmes go and then Jamal Lewis tore his ACL in training camp so we had no running game that year. We were supposed to be a running team and instead we were forced to be a passing team with a TERRIBLE pass-blocking offensive line after Jon Ogden. I'm pretty sure Grbac played a bunch of games concussed as he was getting killed out there. Another reason we got worse was the front four of the defense was old in 2000 but kind of fell off a little in 2001 understandably with guys like Burnett and Siragusa on their last legs and McCrary's knees continuing to fall apart. And you're always going to regress to the mean. 2001 wasn't really that bad of a year all things considered, we went 10-6 and won a road playoff game. If we had had a running game more of the games would have looked like that playoff win. We wouldn't have made the playoffs with Dilfer, I guarantee you that. Our other option in free agency was Brad Johnson and would he have fared any better than Grbac?? Doubtful. Kawalimus fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Apr 4, 2014 |
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I wasn't very knowledgeable about football back then so this is all good to know.
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Apr 4, 2014 14:53
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Chris Gaines posted:I wasn't very knowledgeable about football back then so this is all good to know. Just be warned a lot of people will disagree with me but I stick to this story pretty strongly compared to usual. Another reason we didn't draft Brees was that we thought at the time Chris Redman(who we'd drafted in the 3rd round in 2000) would be our young QB of the future but mediocrity and back problems wrecked that eventually. We just might have drafted Brees instead of Heap otherwise.
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Bird dude is right, the Ravens would have won the Super Bowl if Jamal didn't gently caress himself up in training camp.
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Parlett316 posted:Bird dude is right, the Ravens would have won the Super Bowl if Jamal didn't gently caress himself up in training camp. I think there is a really good chance we would have made the Superbowl but I do not think we would have beaten the Rams. I just imagine if Jamal Lewis had had his 2000-yard season that year instead of 2003. What a matchup that would have been in the Superbowl!! Also might have saved you all having to deal with the Patriots  Another thing that hurt us bad(and I just mentioned in another recent post) was the Searcy signing. We signed Leon Searcy at RT who had been hurt the previous season and he ended up not playing a down. That REALLY hosed up the offensive line to go along with the running game and like I said put Grbac in a terrible situation. That was not a guy you want to have to be eluding pass rushers on his own.
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Chris Gaines posted:Things like "what if the Ravens drafted Brees over Heap" gives me an idea for a thread... Been done. http://m.espn.go.com/general/story?storyId=6894586&src=desktop
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Grozz Nuy posted:Not to be a pedant but he did say 'multiple' Super Bowl winning coach. Meh, what's another 8 months?
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Ozu posted:I can't think of too many teams that would willingly give a large contract extension to a guy with 2 years left on his rookie deal. No one from the 2011 1st round has been signed yet. They are going to have to do something with their 30M in cap room...
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Chris Gaines posted:Has there been any other multiple Super Bowl-winning coach who has been exposed for a complete fraud over the past several years? Joe Gibbs
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ROSS MY SALAD posted:Joe Gibbs Nice troll
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@AdamSchefter: WR Mike Williams becomes seventh Williams on Bills' roster joining S Aaron, G Chris, S Duke, DE Kyle, DE Mario, LB Nathan. And now WR Mike.
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Parlett316 posted:Bird dude is right, the Ravens would have won the Super Bowl if Jamal didn't gently caress himself up in training camp. Priest Holmes could have carried the run game that year if he hadn't been moved on couldn't he? Dude was pretty good in KC.
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Corzaa posted:Priest Holmes could have carried the run game that year if he hadn't been moved on couldn't he? Dude was pretty good in KC. I don't blame them for moving on from Priest. Jamal was legit and with him carrying the workload with an solid QB and still solid defense they would have still been a force. Once Jamal went down they had to go full on passing attack and they were doooomed.
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Corzaa posted:Priest Holmes could have carried the run game that year if he hadn't been moved on couldn't he? Dude was pretty good in KC. Priest ran behind one of the best OLs in NFL history and had a pretty goddamn good fullback too. He's pretty overrated
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ROSS MY SALAD posted:Priest ran behind one of the best OLs in NFL history and had a pretty goddamn good fullback too. preistholmesnintendo.gif
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@JasonLaCanfora: Titans have made their release of RB Chris Johnson official
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ROSS MY SALAD posted:Joe Gibbs He got some real bad Redskins squads in the 00's to be competitive. The game had definitely passed him by to a degree, but Gibbs is the best coach the Redskins have had in the Snyder era besides maybe Marty.
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The Ravens also signed RB Justin Forsett from Jacksonville. No clue about this guy. vv That's fine. Baltimore had to sign 2 RBs midseason last year when both of the RBs on the roster were hurt. I don't mind the depth. Sour Diesel fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Apr 4, 2014 |
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Sour Diesel posted:The Ravens also signed RB Justin Forsett from Jacksonville. No clue about this guy. He floated around as a third string on the Hawks a couple years ago. He was pretty useless then, so I can't imagine that he improved with age.
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Just a Chris Johnson footnote from Schefter: Four teams that discussed a potential trade for RB Chris Johnson, but ultimately declined to do so, were the Jets, Bills, Dolphins, Falcons.
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Kalli posted:Just a Chris Johnson footnote from Schefter: So Jets, Bills, or Falcons at this point. Our signing of Moreno pretty much guarantees we are out of it.
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Why does it feel like the AFC East does 10 times more than any other division? And this isn't even about the eastern bias or anything since I get basically all my news here
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Rap posted:Why does it feel like the AFC East does 10 times more than any other division? And this isn't even about the eastern bias or anything since I get basically all my news here Because we have three incompetent teams who have been scrambling to compete with the Patriots for almost 15 years now.
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