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Militree posted:Gonna have to agree with this guy. Togekiss rules. Please consult this official tier: Magmortar is also awesome because he's at least okay which is 1000x better than Magmar and his dumb butt face. Also Roserade is Plant Tuxedo Mask so he's top tier. Other than these issues, I agree.
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I dunno man, Electivire looks dumb as hell and everything in the Ambipom family is a horrific crime against nature.
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Apr 4, 2014 19:57
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Manatee Cannon posted:I dunno man, Electivire looks dumb as hell and everything in the Ambipom family is a horrific crime against nature. The Ambipom family is just so dull and forgettable that they don't elicit enough response to be considered terrible.
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Apr 4, 2014 19:59
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Militree posted:Gonna have to agree with this guy. Togekiss rules. Please consult this official tier:
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Apr 4, 2014 20:00
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Honchkrow is a top-tier evolution and anyone who says otherwise is wrong.
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Apr 4, 2014 20:02
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Pureauthor posted:Honchkrow is a top-tier evolution and anyone who says otherwise is wrong. Actually he's UU at best 
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Apr 4, 2014 20:04
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Magmortar is also awesome because he's at least okay which is 1000x better than Magmar and his dumb butt face. Also Roserade is Plant Tuxedo Mask so he's top tier. Other than these issues, I agree. I do like the "level up while knowing a specific move", and it's why I'm a little disappointed that Goodra can't evolve with manual rain. Teaching Goodra Rain Dance as a way to get it to evolve would be sort of like an update (you could even say evolution  ) of that.
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Apr 4, 2014 20:05
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fade5 posted:I like pretty much all the Gen 4 evolutions, the only thing I hate is some of the evolution methods. "Trade while holding a specific item" is an absolute pain in the rear end, especially since said held items are really rare and/or really expensive. Or allow moves like Rain Dance outside of battle so you can influence the weather on X amount of subsequent battles. That would be awesome.
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Apr 4, 2014 20:07
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For Mega-Pinsir, is there any downside to using Frustration over Return? I'd like to be able to screw over Ditto's that try to come in and revenge kill and I figure most of them will be running max happiness. Happiness doesn't affect wifi battles other than Return/Frustration damage, right? I know it seems super niche, but I figure why not?
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Apr 4, 2014 20:47
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It's just a pain to use Frustration because everything increases happiness. If once you have it set up you put it in the box and never move around with it then it's fine.
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Apr 4, 2014 20:49
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2MB posted:For Mega-Pinsir, is there any downside to using Frustration over Return? I'd like to be able to screw over Ditto's that try to come in and revenge kill and I figure most of them will be running max happiness. Happiness doesn't affect wifi battles other than Return/Frustration damage, right? I know it seems super niche, but I figure why not? That's actually a pretty neat idea, which oddly enough wouldn't accurately translate over to simulator play. No matter what, Return and Frustration are always max power, even though in this situation it wouldn't be the same Unless transform also copies happiness and such, which I don't know
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Apr 4, 2014 21:02
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Dr Pepper posted:It's just a pain to use Frustration because everything increases happiness. Just feed it tons of bitter berries/herbs?
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Apr 4, 2014 21:13
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Yeah but just walking around with it in the party increases a Pokemon's happiness.
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Apr 4, 2014 21:16
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2MB posted:For Mega-Pinsir, is there any downside to using Frustration over Return? I'd like to be able to screw over Ditto's that try to come in and revenge kill and I figure most of them will be running max happiness. Happiness doesn't affect wifi battles other than Return/Frustration damage, right? I know it seems super niche, but I figure why not? Frustration is a lot harder to keep at maximum power since basically everything, up to and including "walking around with it in your party" raises happiness. It shouldn't interfere with anything else, just be sure to remember that every single time you take it out of the PC you'll probably have to give it at least one happiness reducing item before you box it again.
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Apr 4, 2014 21:16
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You know what'd be great? If Togekiss had a Mega Evolution 
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Main Paineframe posted:Frustration is a lot harder to keep at maximum power since basically everything, up to and including "walking around with it in your party" raises happiness. It shouldn't interfere with anything else, just be sure to remember that every single time you take it out of the PC you'll probably have to give it at least one happiness reducing item before you box it again. And this is why the Battle Box is a loving godsend.
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Magres posted:You know what'd be great? Forget that ugly thing, give Dunsparce a mega-evolution. E: hell, give megas to all those obscure one-shots that desperately need it, instead of to poo poo like Lucario and Blaziken that were already overused anyway.
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Tardigrade posted:Forget that ugly thing, give Dunsparce a mega-evolution. The majority of players (kids) don't want dunsparce to Mega evolve. They want the bad as dog thing and kicking karate flame chicken.
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Apr 4, 2014 22:10
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Constable Lemon posted:That's actually a pretty neat idea, which oddly enough wouldn't accurately translate over to simulator play. No matter what, Return and Frustration are always max power, even though in this situation it wouldn't be the same Are you sure? I hear that using Frustration to mess with dito's is specifically a simulator thing, due to just being able to set your happiness to whatever and the default being max happiness.
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Apr 4, 2014 22:37
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Whitenoise Poster posted:Are you sure? I hear that using Frustration to mess with dito's is specifically a simulator thing, due to just being able to set your happiness to whatever and the default being max happiness. Oh, you're right. I always assumed the simulator automatically powered Return/Frustration to max without you being able to set happiness separately. If you put Frustration on your moveset, it does automatically lower that happiness to 0 though.
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Apr 4, 2014 22:43
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Magmortar would be cool if he didn't have the Mr. Popo blackface thing going on. Everybody flips their poo poo about Jynx still but I don't think I've ever seen anybody call Magmortar out on it.
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Apr 4, 2014 22:50
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Magmortar has cannons for arms and I think that's pretty cool.
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Apr 4, 2014 23:22
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Tardigrade posted:Forget that ugly thing, give Dunsparce a mega-evolution.
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Apr 4, 2014 23:32
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Militree posted:Gonna have to agree with this guy. Togekiss rules. Please consult this official tier: Way to completely forget Magnezone 
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Tardigrade posted:Forget that ugly thing, give Dunsparce a mega-evolution. This guy knows what's up. Hell yeah Dunsparce buddy.
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Pokemon Cofagrigus, #563 in the Pokedex: I didn't really mind you until you came up in match #19 on Super Single Battle in Battle Maison. Kangaskhan was switched out because of low health and your Mummy/Will-O-Wisp ability, so Chansey came in to stall. Now I hate you with every fiber of my being. You turned a simple five minute sweep into a 38 minute slog in which you somehow managed to use Rest 18 times despite it being a max PP of 16. When you weren't spamming Rest every turn after I Toxic'd you, you would spam Will-O-Wisp, which despite being 85% accuracy you managed to land every single turn without fail. You used Mean Look at the start of the match to ensure Chansey could not switch out the entire time. Your only damaging move was Night Shade, which did utterly nothing at all I would Toxic, you would rest. I'd Seismic Toss, you would burn me. You used Night Shade, I laughed at your incompetence. At long last, you Struggled yourself to death while my Chansey Soft-Boiled one last time in utter defiance of you. I hate you Cofagrigus, like Ahab hated the while whale.
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counterpoint: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpDGq01u0C0
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LEGO Genetics posted:Pokemon Cofagrigus, #563 in the Pokedex: This reminds me why I love Cofagrigus. Speaking of, what's the consensus on Mummy? I feel like there are a lot of abilities I'd love to get rid of (that Kangaskhan's Parental Bond comes to mind), but I also worry that I can't control when it triggers (your own contact attacks, like Astonish, don't work), so it'd be of limited usefulness if the opponent plays around it well. Are there any situations where it's particularly good?
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I'd like a quick opinion about this Gyarados for triples - it's the one from the 1000W triples Maison streak: Gyarados @ Choice Band Trait: Intimidate EVs: 164 HP / 196 Atk / 4 Def / 76 SDef / 68 Spd Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Waterfall - Earthquake - Stone Edge - Return I'm already doing Jolly instead of Adamant and am thinking of bumping up the speed further in lieu of some of the HP. Also considering running it as a MegaGyarados.. any suggested mods to the spread if I went in that direction?
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Apr 5, 2014 02:28
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My favorite pokemon just got better 
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Amperor posted:This reminds me why I love Cofagrigus. Speaking of, what's the consensus on Mummy? I feel like there are a lot of abilities I'd love to get rid of (that Kangaskhan's Parental Bond comes to mind), but I also worry that I can't control when it triggers (your own contact attacks, like Astonish, don't work), so it'd be of limited usefulness if the opponent plays around it well. It works well on a team with archeops or slaking!
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Diet Poison posted:I'd like a quick opinion about this Gyarados for triples - it's the one from the 1000W triples Maison streak: That said, I still use a mega for my triples team, I use DD Mega-Tyranitar over Scarf-Tar. I like it a lot better, the extra bulk, attack, and increased speed while still being able to switch moves is really nice. Setting up a DD is extra, half the time I just have Mega-Tyranitar start attacking with Rock Slide/Crunch. fade5 fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Apr 5, 2014 |
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I don't care how it actually moves in the anime or anything. This is how I'm always gonna picture it.
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Quantum Toast posted:I'd love to see what they'd come up with for Mega Castform. I'd love for a Mega Castform's ability to be "Weather Alert". It would use Heat Wave/Hurricane/Blizzard when Mega'd and/or whenever weather changes (along with him changing form). Also, have a set of weather-inducing moves that does damage (like 60, just so it's not too crazy), but only give weather for 3 turns. Call em Cloud Burst, Cold Front, Drought (Whatever. There's Feint and Feint Attack now), Kick-Up. I have a big interest in Castform and want to see him work.
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ahahaha god I almost died laughing so hard
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Yestermoment posted:I'd love for a Mega Castform's ability to be "Weather Alert". It would use Heat Wave/Hurricane/Blizzard when Mega'd and/or whenever weather changes (along with him changing form). Instead of making a mega castform they could just buff each individual form. Make each one different, with different stats. Rain Castform with high special defense, Sun has high special attack, hail has high speed, or something along those lines. Basically, make him useless outside of weather (he already is) but make him a Pokemon with pretty good stats in weather.
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Constable Lemon posted:Instead of making a mega castform they could just buff each individual form. Make each one different, with different stats. Rain Castform with high special defense, Sun has high special attack, hail has high speed, or something along those lines. Basically, make him useless outside of weather (he already is) but make him a Pokemon with pretty good stats in weather. Also, give him a sand form. Sand is probalby the most used and useful weather effect,so I don't know why the Pokemon entirely built around weather doesn't support it.
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Cleretic posted:Also, give him a sand form. Sand is probalby the most used and useful weather effect,so I don't know why the Pokemon entirely built around weather doesn't support it. On top of that Give him a Gravity and Trick Room form.
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Cleretic posted:Also, give him a sand form. Sand is probalby the most used and useful weather effect,so I don't know why the Pokemon entirely built around weather doesn't support it. What's weird is that even in Gen3 Weather Ball becomes Rock while it's sandstorming but Castform doesn't. Sorry little guy
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