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PE2 is a different game but it's a much better one, with a lot of nicely differentiated guns to use as opposed to the first game's millions of numerical variations on half a dozen basic models. It also has some of the best monster design I've seen in a game. A lot of PE1's praise is a product of its time. It was a trial run of Final Fantasy 8's FMV engine and nothing else on the market had cinematics anywhere near as good. It was also something of a prototype for what would become Vagrant Story's combat system. Being set in modern times with a female protagonist that gets things done and wears sensible clothing were all pretty novel concepts, too.
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hubris.height posted:You're so wrong. You don't even know how wrong you are. Allow me. We're just going to have to agree to disagree on that point. None of those are https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs2y4Nqku2o and don't do as much for me. Really though, Scars of Time could be every song on CC's soundtrack and I'd be ok with that. EDIT: That said, I think the various battle themes in Xenogears are ahead of most of Chrono Cross so I'll give you that. Morpheus posted:I've noticed that none of those are the Gaur Plains theme from Xenoblade Xenoblade's soundtrack was fabulous and it so matched the mood of whatever it was accompanying. God that game so was so amazing. Is it being re-released for the Wii-U in HD at some point? I seem to recall hearing that once upon a time. Levantine fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Apr 3, 2014 |
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I enjoyed Xenoblade quite a bit, but I thought the whole "BEST JRPG IN A DECADE!" hype was a bit much. It started to unravel towards the end for me, but it still ended up being a very good game.
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Levantine posted:Xenoblade's soundtrack was fabulous and it so matched the mood of whatever it was accompanying. God that game so was so amazing. Is it being re-released for the Wii-U in HD at some point? I seem to recall hearing that once upon a time. We can agree on this point. Haven't heard of an HD remake I wouldn't be surprised if they went that way to drive some sales. X however is the sequel and is denitely a thing. I remember exploring those plains and just being awestruck at how good the music was.
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hubris.height posted:We can agree on this point. Haven't heard of an HD remake I wouldn't be surprised if they went that way to drive some sales. X however is the sequel and is denitely a thing. I remember exploring those plains and just being awestruck at how good the music was. I remember really liking that music, but my most striking memory of the game was running around Eryth Sea at night, that tranquil-as-gently caress music playing, looking up and seeing the shooting stars, and just being blown away at the scale of it all.
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Levantine posted:Didn't he almost die after doing the CC soundtrack or something? I read something to the effect that he is such a perfectionist and he worked so hard and so long on it he suffered exhaustion, but that could be hyperbole. It wouldn't surprise me if it happened with other games, but it was definitely Xenosaga that was the worst for Mitsuda. It's not hyperbole either, the dude almost worked himself to death composing that soundtrack. Some of it was literally work to the point of exhaustion and pass out stuff. I'll always champion it as his swan song (but everything else posted in here is great too).
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To this day Pain is my favorite JRPG ballad. "Small Two of Pieces" is equally great but I played Xenosaga first so that helps edge it out. Having the same singer return for Xenosaga was really cool.
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NikkolasKing posted:To this day Pain is my favorite JRPG ballad. "Small Two of Pieces" is equally great but I played Xenosaga first so that helps edge it out. Speaking of arrange albums, I'm still waiting for the Chrono Cross one. It took 13 years for the Xenogears one to be released—the album was literally named Myth—so according to that schedule it should be out.
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Morpheus posted:I remember really liking that music, but my most striking memory of the game was running around Eryth Sea at night, that tranquil-as-gently caress music playing, looking up and seeing the shooting stars, and just being blown away at the scale of it all. Oh god yeah, everything in the atmosphere of that game was so well done. 
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Chrono Trigger's got Schala's Theme, Corridors of Time, and Confronting Magus. I honestly don't think Mitsuda's ever topped those outside of Time's Scar.
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The Joe Man posted:It's the closest we'll ever get to Ultima Underworld III (unfortunately). It's still good, but check out Ultima Underworld I & II if you enjoy Arx. UWII is probably my favorite RPG of all time. I'll give it a shot after I finish this. Since I'm enjoying it more than I expected.
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Sakurazuka posted:Why is Symphonia 2 considered so bad? I played an hour or so of it when I got Chronicles and it seemed okay, just didn't go any further because I wanted to finish the first one first. It's a combination of a whole bunch of things, it's hard to pin it on anything specific. The two main characters are very easy to dislike (Emil for being whiny, Marta for being clingy), the plot is dumb, the returning ToS1 characters feel shoehorned in, half the dungeons are just redoing the seal dungeons from ToS1, the battle system feels sluggish and lacks impact compared to any other Tales battle system, and there's a whole bunch of bad gameplay related design decisions like locking ToS1 characters to whatever level they happened to join the party and putting defend and free run on the same button (which is really fun combined with the damage/hitstun penality for getting hit while freerunning). If you play it, play it for Tenebrae and the skits. Everything else ranges from bad to meh. I mean, I suppose it's not awful and it certainly got an undeserved bad reputation among JRPG fans for repeating a really dumb phrase a couple times in chapter 1 which people like to latch onto, but it's really just the overall game package being underwhelming. Quality wise it fits closer with those PSP Tales of the World spinoffs than an actual game in the main series, and you don't even get much of the fanservice here unless you really really love Symphonia -- and in that case you'll probably be annoyed that they changed six of the ToS1 party member voice actors! Admiral H. Curtiss fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Apr 4, 2014 |
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On the topic of tri-Ace, the VP game for DS is also a lot of fun, and I (though I think a lot of people disagree) really loved Radiata Stories. In my experience their games are either a lot of fun or the loving worst.
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fronz posted:On the topic of tri-Ace, the VP game for DS is also a lot of fun, and I (though I think a lot of people disagree) really loved Radiata Stories. I agree with all of this. Some of my favorite games ever are Tri-Ace games. Some of the games I hate more than anything are Tri-Ace games. They're really weird that way.
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fronz posted:On the topic of tri-Ace, the VP game for DS is also a lot of fun, and I (though I think a lot of people disagree) really loved Radiata Stories. Radiata Stories might not have the most exciting battle system, but man does the world have ton of charm to it. Also, Jack's power walk animation is the best walk animation in video games. 
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Not sure if someone else has posted about this in another thread but apparently a new Wild ARMs game is in the works. What timing. I just got WA3. Well I ordered it off ebay because it was the cheapest of all five. WA is another series I've been wanting to get my foot in the door with.
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Stelas posted:If it's a mobile social card game I will stab someone. This. This so loving hard.
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In the grim darkness of the far future of Japan there are only mobile card games.
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Technically, Metal Gear Ac!d was a card game spin-off of a Japanese franchise, and that game ruled.
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Endorph posted:Technically, Metal Gear Ac!d was a card game spin-off of a Japanese franchise, and that game ruled. Every time I read mobile/social card game my head says "It could be like Ac!d" and it never, ever is. Fortune, you were a minor character in the one game you appeared in but I'll be damned if you weren't game breakingly powerful in card form.
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At this point it's probably best if my favorite RPG series ever (Suikoden) doesn't get a sixth game. The most I want is for re-releases/ports of 2-5 so that they're more affordable for more people. Suikoden VI can live on in my wacky time-travel RPG Maker pipe dream anyway. Speaking of Suikoden, did anyone ever play the J-only PSP Suikoden? How was it?
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CVagts posted:Speaking of Suikoden, did anyone ever play the J-only PSP Suikoden? How was it?
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CVagts posted:Speaking of Suikoden, did anyone ever play the J-only PSP Suikoden? How was it? I heard it was worse than Tierkreis, which is no slouch in the "terrible" department.
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CVagts posted:Speaking of Suikoden, did anyone ever play the J-only PSP Suikoden? How was it? As a Suikoden game, it's really bad. As a generic JRPG, it's alright. Pretty much the same deal as Tierkreis. It also continues the weird multiverse thing that Tierkreis started, and the end goal is defeating a super monster (god maybe? I don't know) that wants to destroy the world. The battle victory theme might sound familiar too, so anytime you complete a battle it's like the game is going "haha remember Suikoden? What a great series! Here's something to remind you how good it was." I really love the Suikoden series, but it's best to just pretend that the series ended with the fifth main game. 
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BloodWulfe posted:As a Suikoden game, it's really bad. As a generic JRPG, it's alright. Pretty much the same deal as Tierkreis. It also continues the weird multiverse thing that Tierkreis started, and the end goal is defeating a super monster (god maybe? I don't know) that wants to destroy the world. What exactly killed that series so dead? I don't remember five being particularly poorly received; I thought it was the best in the franchise, aside from those godawful load times.
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Agnostalgia posted:What exactly killed that series so dead? I don't remember five being particularly poorly received; I thought it was the best in the franchise, aside from those godawful load times. The franchise, like most now-dead JRPG franchises, was not growing its audience or maintaining the audience it had. It wasn't attracting new players and the developers have stated that they got feedback that people found the franchise hard to get into due to the interconnected setting and characters. (That is why the DS and PSP games went to the weird multiverse generic-JRPG thing.) Add into that Suikoden IV killing a lot of franchise goodwill and it basically never recovered. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 08:48 on Apr 5, 2014 |
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ImpAtom posted:It wasn't attracting new players and the developers have stated that they got feedback that people found the franchise hard to get into due to the interconnected setting and characters. That's really a shame because that was one of the main selling points for me, especially since the JRPG genre staple is for sequels to be their own thing and often not even set in the same world.
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Anyone else looking forward to Bound by Flame? From the gameplay footage I'm getting a Dragon's Dogma vibe from it. Any idea what the main development console for it is?
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Agnostalgia posted:What exactly killed that series so dead? I don't remember five being particularly poorly received; I thought it was the best in the franchise, aside from those godawful load times. The focus on a really tight narrative, persistent character development, and general world building were some of my favorite parts of the series, and traits you really don't see in other JRPGs. This ended up alienating new players as ImpAtom pointed out. I could only find the Famitsu sales numbers, but for reference: Suikoden III sold 377k, Suikoden IV sold 303k, and Suikoden V sold 194k. Seeing a sharp drop like that over the years, especially as the console install base was growing, probably wasn't a great sign.
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Didn't the writer for the first three Suikoden games up and quit midway through III, too? I remember vague complaints about them not knowing what to do with the story in addition to not wanting to add onto it for the reasons ImpAtom mentioned.
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Yeah, he did. That's kind of the least of S3's problems, though.
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The White Dragon posted:Yeah, he did. That's kind of the least of S3's problems, though. No complaints there. I'm glad somebody bothered to put the plot in a manga because otherwise I'd have never been able to penetrate that game's slow jank to get the story. I slogged through all of IV just because I was so happy that the battle system had returned to something resembling the old games (which is weird because of how slow the ocean parts play out).
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Phantasium posted:I slogged through all of IV just because I was so happy that the battle system had returned to something resembling the old games (which is weird because of how slow the ocean parts play out). Suikoden IV tried so hard to be a 'real' Suikoden game after Suikoden III that it forgot to be a good game. It has all these callbacks and references and is basically them screaming "it isn't Suikoden III again, guys" and then they just made it a bad game.
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I actually liked Suikoden 3 though, jankyness and all. Four on the other hand...oh god, that sure is a game. Five was decent enough though.
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goldjas posted:I actually liked Suikoden 3 though, jankyness and all. Four on the other hand...oh god, that sure is a game. Five was decent enough though. This is exactly how I feel. I really enjoyed Suikoden III, including the goofy Trinity Sight System. I just could not get into the fourth game though. The party size, characters, sailing, story, progression, and worst of all the 150 year time jump, everything just felt like they tried but totally missed the mark. They also made Schtolteheim Reinbach III a star of destiny which was shameful. It also got a [disappointing] spin-off game that I wish they would've done with Suikoden II, instead of that GBA card game spin-off it got. Suikoden IV did have the coolest looking true rune though. 
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Related to this thread but: I just finished Half-Minute Hero 2 and it's a really weird game. The first game is like a parody of JRPGs but the second one is just an RPG. Like flat-out just an RPG. It still has the 30-second timer gimmicks but there are periods without it including an entire huge bonus dungeon which is entirely untimed, and the story is a lot more straight-JRPG than the first one. It's still got comedy but if it wasn't for the 30 second gimmick it could be a Tales plot or whatever and I wouldn't notice.
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