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Foxtrot_13 posted:While individual incidents are not against any laws if there is a pattern it can be constructive dismissal. Forwarding confidential internal email to an external host? That sounds like a surefire way to get fired.
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poo poo pissing me off: taking the full fall for something I only have part of the blame in. Trying to be as non-specific as possible, HR made a request regarding someone who was switching from one branch of our company to another, and I unfortunately didn't ask for extra info from them (HR was usually good about saying exactly what was needed but didn't this time around). A week or so later, this caused a big problem as I was given shaky info to give to HR and caused them to get passed around repeatedly, the user got involved in a way that caused confusion with another branch of our IT department, and the HR rep got their boss involved with my own to complain about how the whole thing was handled poorly and was cumbersome. Right when I finally got it handed off to our desktop guys, they told the user the wrong thing and the whole mess landed back on my lap again. I have no idea who spoke to who about what, but I was told to consider the whole mess a "learning experience". ... Then suddenly my task for the month was switched to something that wouldn't put me in the forefront of things anymore, or have me really communicating with anyone at all. Frankly, I hosed up and deserved a large chunk of the blame (the whole thing would've been avoided if I had known to not trust HR so implicitly and to ask more questions at the start), but man oh man do I hope the desktop guys at least got reamed for making a bad situation worse enough to get the head of HR asking for an explanation. From what I heard though, it seems they didn't get so much as a disappointed sigh in their direction, while I was essentially told "we can't trust you to email people anymore". In short, waah waah I did something dumb and got yelled at but other people made it worse and I'm apparently taking the fall for their mess up too. Even shorter, I need to  if company culture here is "first person to mess up gets blamed for everything else that goes wrong later, whether they were indirectly at fault for it or not".
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Apparently my coworkers are unable to read timestamps or previously-sent mails. Investigated a complaint yesterday, built up a timeline along with the details of the complaint, and sent it over to our supervisors as well as a few coworkers. Two of said coworkers decided that today was a good day to investigate the complaint themselves(One asked the other to do it) Their investigation is completely wrong on quite a few critical points as can be seen by looking at the clearly-visible timestamp on the original complaint, as well as dates and times mentioned in said complaint. I'm gonna have a little chat with my supervisors on monday. Not the first time they randomly decided to ignore previous e-mails.
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Apr 5, 2014 21:00
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Smoke posted:Apparently my coworkers are unable to read timestamps or previously-sent mails. Time to wave your dick around like you just don't care. If you're being marginalized, not respected, and your workplace ignores cold card evidence you produce, you need to revamp your image. Probably this means a new job, but just maybe if you jump right to literally "these coworkers hosed up and wasted time trying to do what I did and failing at it", you might be able to get some respect.
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baquerd posted:Time to wave your dick around like you just don't care. If you're being marginalized, not respected, and your workplace ignores cold card evidence you produce, you need to revamp your image. Probably this means a new job, but just maybe if you jump right to literally "these coworkers hosed up and wasted time trying to do what I did and failing at it", you might be able to get some respect. Respect's not the issue at all, seeing as how I perform pretty well and I've got all the required metrics to back it up. It's more a specific set of coworkers that is pretty much failing to communicate. As for the investigation, I was asked to check it out by one of the supervisors and my results have most likely already been verified and sent back up the chain for followup as I kept in touch and updated said supervisor with additional details. It's basically just bothering me more that time was wasted for basically no results at all(which is something I'm going to bring up), and that another supervisor might end up making himself(and by extension the company I work for) look like an idiot by sending those results back up the chain as well(I have no idea if he did, but he was directly CCed on the communications by the other guys rather than the supervisor distribution group)
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Crowley posted:Forwarding confidential internal email to an external host? That sounds like a surefire way to get fired. It also may be a violation of various contracts you signed when you were hired. Also, there are plenty of email security systems that will notice such things. BCC only hides to recipients: it doesn't hide anything from the mail server.
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Apr 6, 2014 00:13
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While I wouldn't forward mail there probably isn't going to be anything to stop you from printing it out.
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Apr 6, 2014 01:16
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Nothing stopping you from saving an EML now, is there?
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Westie posted:Nothing stopping you from saving an EML now, is there? With the level of endpoint protection around, I would be not so sure. In these case the official advice is usually a dated journal. Write down the substantive content of all incidents and the people involved.
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Crowley posted:Forwarding confidential internal email to an external host? That sounds like a surefire way to get fired. In America maybe but it’s more complicated in Britain. As long as you don't have client information in it then the Data Protection Act doesn't come into it (if it’s your personal information you are fine) so that’s the main way they can get you legally. The other is that the company has an email policy about sending confidential information outside of the company network. Now I very much doubt the clowns have anything written down so they can't use it. Even if they did have a policy then you are entitled via the data protection act to any personal information about you and anything relating to your work performance is very much personal data so you have a legal entitlement to it. Now I don't expect the law to get in the way if they want to get rid of you but you can get a big chunk of cash from them. The law in Britain (currently) is that the Employer must prove that they fired you in a legal way so if you can discredit the performance reviews and incidents that they would use to prove the legality of your sacking then they become useless. Westie posted:Nothing stopping you from saving an EML now, is there? That would be the over option as unlike printing out the email it keeps the header information so that it can be proved to come from the company.
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Foxtrot_13 posted:That would be the over option as unlike printing out the email it keeps the header information so that it can be proved to come from the company. Constructive_Dismissal.pst? Honestly though, I would keep both and electronic copy and also print them out and store in a folder that comes home with me. If you can get the PST off a company device (USB stick etc.) then do on a regular basis. Record and keep evidence of the PST's existance (screenshots etc.) and then if it mysteriously vanishes at some point down the line, you have a fallback set of evidence as well as something that implies the company is destroying evidence. Golden rule of you can never have too many backups applies as much in this situation as it does many others. For the record, I have actually been involved in documenting and storing evidence for a constructive dismissal process that started happening after my partner became disabled. Fortunately her company got bought by a larger German company and once they got wind of what was going on, the people responsible were encouraged to resign and things have gotten a lot better, so we've never had to use it. Lum fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Apr 6, 2014 |
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pienipple posted:Uh, sounds like the tendons in your ankles/calves are shortened from wearing heels too much. Same thing happened to a friend of mine and she had to go into physical therapy. I think there's a bit more to it in my case. Even before I ever wore them, if I was barefoot I felt more comfortable walking around on tiptoes. *shrug* As for recruiter chat, did I ever post the story of my co-worker who told the recruiter that he was looking for a new job because the office was relocating to a location further away than he was prepared to commute. It's most easily told with a picture (exact locations have been changed to protect the innocent)  Just to clarify, co-worker does not own any form of water going vessel.
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Convince the company to lease him a company boat.
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Apr 6, 2014 16:14
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Lum posted:Just to clarify, co-worker does not own any form of water going vessel. Does his body have wings or some kind of large inflatable bladder in which to store helium? I mean, I can see how a recruiter might assume that he does, since most do not seem to have familiarity with our particular reality.
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Apr 6, 2014 16:22
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If you could get an inclement weather clause, boating to work would be so awesome
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A vaguely recall one of the Scandinavian goons claiming they kayak'd to work across a river every day
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There's some company exec who used to (not sure if he still does) who lived somewhere in Normandy - and flew to his work in Exeter three times a week. That's what happens when you can afford your own plane.
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My bosses boss gets a boat across the Thames to our head office To be fair he travels a lot and is probably only in the office once, maybe twice a week
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One day this summer I'm going to arrange the end of a client site visit to line up nicely with taking a long lunch and a trip back west on a Thames Clipper.
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NZAmoeba posted:A vaguely recall one of the Scandinavian goons claiming they kayak'd to work across a river every day I would be more than happy to do something like this to get to work. It'd be a great workout.
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poo poo that's not pissing me off: Apparently HP now makes an "Enterprise Driver" for my home printer/scanner, which is an installer with just the relevant drivers and install program, and is 20MB instead of 200MB for the "Full Feature Driver".  I... how did I find an HP driver that doesn't want me to install bloatware? I don't even Edit: Nope, HP's driver can't figure out what the printer is. There's the bullshit company that we all know and love.  Trying the "Consumer" drivers instead...Double edit: Nope, that's just a wrapper around their "Enterprise Driver", still no joy. And they can't just loving package DLLs with an .inf file... Volmarias fucked around with this message at 01:35 on Apr 7, 2014 |
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Apr 7, 2014 01:28
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I'm surprised the Google bus hasn't turned into the Google ferry yacht yet. Maybe that's what the Google barge is!
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Volmarias posted:poo poo that's not pissing me off: Try opening the .exe with 7zip or something close, there's always a .inf buried somewhere.
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Either that or run the .exe and then look in your %temp% folder for a folder just recently created. Usually the first thing it does is extract everything to there.
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Stupid power adapters with the same tip sizes but wildly different voltages. I just plugged a 24V power supply into my 12V Synology NAS because I wasn't paying attention and they are identical aside from the voltage. On that note, anyone know anything about recovering data from Synology Hybrid RAID?
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Maniaman posted:On that note, anyone know anything about recovering data from Synology Hybrid RAID? Contact Synology support- they can help you recover data off of a corrupted SHR volume. Mine once got corrupted and ~48 hours later I had all my files back after they remotely fixed the issue.
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NZAmoeba posted:A vaguely recall one of the Scandinavian goons claiming they kayak'd to work across a river every day It's not terribly uncommon in Seattle for people to use a kayak or singles shell to get to work. Adobe's got a large office right on the ship canal, as do a fair number of other companies.
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NZAmoeba posted:A vaguely recall one of the Scandinavian goons claiming they kayak'd to work across a river every day That might have been me telling about one of my friends who got a sysadmin job at a place right across from his home - across the fjord. He rows to work and (quite legally) deducts some 40 km of transport on his taxes. Tax deductions are calculated from the shortest route by road accessible by car, and the nearest bridge is ~20 km away. In other news I have a possible coming up. Could be a nice change of pace and an extra $1000 per month too.
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I'm not in development at my current job, and I'm so glad. Our team is such a joke. Lead guy went on vacation for 2 weeks. Made some kind of change on Friday, sure enough some major process bombed and everyone else on the dev team is running around in circles. How did the code go out if it didn't pass tests? Tests? Hah! What are those!? Look at the last change and either fix it or change it back? Hah! Revision control, what's that!? Rollback the code to the last revision and re-deploy? Hah! Deployment tools? What are those!?
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I just got told by a manager (that doesn't manage my team, he hires the abroad team) That I go on do not disturb to often and it looks like i'm just trying not to take phone calls. I've been on do not disturb for 45 minutes today. 30 of those was my lunch and I changed the status to say that. The remaining 14:40 was spent helping a colleague and the status said that too. What he got me for was setting it to DND without changing the status for around 20 seconds (before I got called) asking me why i'm away from my desk. So it looks like one of the managers has gently caress all to do, because I can't even stick my head out the drat door and tell the new guys what's wrong with a clients system without getting questioned. At the very least, when asked to keep my status updated at all times, I got to reply with "What do you want me to do, set it to "walking across the room to help colleagues?". He wasn't pleased because it was sarcastic. Of course it was you loving prick. Go do some actual work like the rest of us! poo poo that's making me laugh rather than pissing me off? A client asked us why their broadband wasn't working. The field engineer got there and found that the building had burned down. You can't make this poo poo up.
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dogstile posted:poo poo that's making me laugh rather than pissing me off? "But I pay $xx a month for broadband, this excuse is not good enough! ESCALATE! ESCALATE!"
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Humphreys posted:"But I pay $xx a month for broadband, this excuse is not good enough! ESCALATE! ESCALATE!" Oh man, they've asked us to get their data off their server. I can't put the picture up now, but you should see this poo poo. The loving van outside of the practice has been burned out. That must have been a massive blaze.
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Bob Morales posted:I'm not in development at my current job, and I'm so glad. Our team is such a joke.  That's not development. That's monkeys banging on keyboards and hoping to code Shakespeare. Sever
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dogstile posted:Oh man, they've asked us to get their data off their server. I can't put the picture up now, but you should see this poo poo. The loving van outside of the practice has been burned out. That must have been a massive blaze. Tell them that you can escalate their ticket, but only if they indicate that it's affecting production. 
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poo poo not pissing me off: I've successfully managed to ban personal space heaters from the office. I walked with Head of Ops over to the electrical panel and pointed out the angry buzzing noise on the circuit breaker, I mean really angry. Then proceeded to tell him to wait 20 seconds. On that Mark, I turned it off and he came to me, astonished that the buzzing abated. I told him exactly what I did Then I came in for the Finale, the math of just how much energy a single heater was burning (And how precariously close to having the entire helpdesk (Main revenue source) be taken out by said heater), how single outlet high energy devices will eventually burn out the outlets including an example from my Dads pile of burned out outlets. It worked. I'm sure that I made no friends today with that but gently caress em, Spae heaters are not acceptable as any form of solution for it's cold in the office unless there is literally no other choice. Edit: Pending Partner approval is a revision to company policy completely banning them QuiteEasilyDone fucked around with this message at 16:53 on Apr 7, 2014 |
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Nice one, now the cold people are going to get the temperature in the entire office jacked up to 'Sahara Desert at noon' because no cold people will ever put on a sweater.
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SamDabbers posted:Nice one, now the cold people are going to get the temperature in the entire office jacked up to 'Sahara Desert at noon' because no cold people will ever put on a sweater. Solution: Take off more clothing as the temp goes up. 
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ratbert90 posted:Solution: Take off more clothing as the temp goes up. Take a very long look at your colleagues before suggesting that.
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SamDabbers posted:Nice one, now the cold people are going to get the temperature in the entire office jacked up to 'Sahara Desert at noon' because no cold people will ever put on a sweater. I remember the look I got when I told someone who was cold that wearing socks might help. Logic is just not popular with some people. Almost a month at the new place and I just had an exec use "you aren't listening to me" in place of "that's not the answer I wanted to hear". I am glad I don't have to be around him much.
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