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I decided to try out a Magyars/Hungary old gods start and oh my is it ridiculous. Getting 70k+ event troops for forming Hungary. Unfortunately my king became incapable in the middle of my conquest of Bulgaria but he lived long enough to finish it. His son that you start the game with was luckily rolled with Brilliant Strategist and Strong but then at some point picked up Possessed and Stressed. He's only 36 and the health bonus from strategist and strong should counter stressed, but is it worth being a truce breaker to the Khazars to get the last holy site to reform the Tengri faith so I can get out of gavelkind before everything goes to pieces. Finally, does the Tengri 30% bonus to light cav attack/defence make the Hungarian cultural retinue worthwhile?
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Torrannor posted:If the province is owned by a count of your religion (Sunni I assume?) and has no holdings outside this county, you become his overlord. If the province is owned by somebody of the wrong religions, or he has holdings outside the county (a second county, or is a duke, etc.), then he relocates there and you get the province. That makes sense, thanks! I've had the worst luck converting counties to my religion this time but I'm having fun trying to survive on the border lands between the Byzantine and Abbasid Empires.
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Apr 6, 2014 10:43
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So why did Paradox make it so it's better to never hand out king titles as an emperor? -25 hit for vassal king but desire kingdom is only -20. vassal kings have larger troop pools too to cause trouble. I'm sitting on 2 empire titles and like 12 kingdoms and have no plans to ever give out a single one of them. I really liked the old way better where I could have vassal kings and deal with them rather than hundreds of dukes.
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Apr 6, 2014 11:06
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Well, I went ahead and just took all of Khazaria in one war. The invasion CB is ludicrous. Reformed the Tengri faith and got rid of gavelkind. Now how do I go about forming the holy order?
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Apr 6, 2014 12:05
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MrBling posted:Finally, does the Tengri 30% bonus to light cav attack/defence make the Hungarian cultural retinue worthwhile? Unless something's changed in the last patch or so, LC are one of the weakest troop types and any retinue built around them is right at the bottom of the pack.
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Apr 6, 2014 12:10
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What kind of retinue should I be making as India? I just kinda made a ton of elephants and heavy infantry.
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Apr 6, 2014 12:38
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Can anyone confirm that, as of the latest beta patch (2.1.2.1) there are no events that remove craven and no events that add brave?
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Apr 6, 2014 12:53
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Btw, What happens if you give one of your relatives in your dynasty a Merchant Republic title? Can that cause issues down the line?
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Apr 6, 2014 13:07
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double nine posted:Can anyone confirm that, as of the latest beta patch (2.1.2.1) there are no events that remove craven and no events that add brave? I gained brave in the beta patch from one of those events you get when you have less than x traits.
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Apr 6, 2014 13:17
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double nine posted:Can anyone confirm that, as of the latest beta patch (2.1.2.1) there are no events that remove craven and no events that add brave? Alas...  What gave you that impression?
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Apr 6, 2014 13:18
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Autonomous Monster posted:Alas... Something must be up with my search program. What's that you're using? It looks like Notepad+?
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Apr 6, 2014 13:47
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Is there any way to stop or reduce the number of peasant revolts? I am playing as the Khazars and experience a Tengri revolt at least once every year.
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Apr 6, 2014 14:25
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QuoProQuid posted:Is there any way to stop or reduce the number of peasant revolts? I am playing as the Khazars and experience a Tengri revolt at least once every year. Convert religion/culture. Have your marshal suppress revolts in a province. Are you using the beta patch? Check the revolt risk in your provinces, if it's over 50% you may be hit with a bug, but I've only seen that in Catholic provinces ruled by Norse and Indian religions.
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Apr 6, 2014 15:04
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double nine posted:Something must be up with my search program. What's that you're using? It looks like Notepad+? Yeah, the "Find in Files..." function.
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There is only one thing stopping me from mending the schism/restoring the roman empire; the game tells me I don't completely control Latium/Prince Bishopry of Rome. I do controm Rome (thanks to a forged claim) but not of its holdings, they are still owned by the Pope. How can I get them? just keep forginh claims in Rome or what?
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Apr 6, 2014 15:18
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You need to declare war on the pope for county claims.
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Apr 6, 2014 15:22
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TheBalor posted:I've been looking around, but haven't found a solution to a particular bug I've been having. Ever since I bought RoI, the 867 start has been disabled. My dreams of being Thane of Rajastan are going unfulfilled! Even after a full delete + reinstall, the problem persists. Anyone else had this? Set your chaplain researching culture tech and eventually he will turn heretic and try to convert you also. The downside to this is that it seems to be a random heresy of that religion so if you're wanting a particular heresy then you'll have to do it until that one crops up.
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Apr 6, 2014 15:42
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radlum posted:There is only one thing stopping me from mending the schism/restoring the roman empire; the game tells me I don't completely control Latium/Prince Bishopry of Rome. I do controm Rome (thanks to a forged claim) but not of its holdings, they are still owned by the Pope. How can I get them? just keep forginh claims in Rome or what? Conquering Rome seems to be bugged. Possible workaround in this thread: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?766734-cant-conquer-all-holdings-in-Rome-from-papal-state
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Wyld Karde posted:
Is grey eminence preferable for wives? I usually look for high stewardship ladies so I get the demesne bonus...am I CK2ing wrong?
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Apr 6, 2014 17:18
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Grey eminence increases fertility, and no, you're not.
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Wooper posted:Grey eminence increases fertility So does Midas Touched. By more, even. [EDIT: Which is... interesting. A diplomatic education makes you better at talking people into bed, I guess? But on a stewardship eduction...  . Being good at long-term thinking and management makes you more amenable to popping out heirs for the good of the realm?]I guess a DIP spouse would help if you're really desperate to get realm diplomacy up, but I don't think I've ever been in a position where I wouldn't still take the demesne bonus. KOGAHAZAN!! fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Apr 6, 2014 |
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Autonomous Monster posted:So does Midas Touched. By more, even. Makes you better at making money which could help get people into bed, I guess
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I had about 1200 just kicking around from good play, so I decided to build a castle on my home county of Gwynedd. The year is 940~, so that probably puts me way ahead, and I have the tech levels to put some good points in on it. Any particular places you recommend I invest in on my castle? e; also, is it worth holding onto the counties of my home duchy in my Kingdom? I have been doing so just so that I had a permanent army of 1000+ always sitting in wait if I needed it, but are there any benefits of giving them away? Another Person fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Apr 6, 2014 |
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Apr 6, 2014 17:57
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Another Person posted:I had about 1200 just kicking around from good play, so I decided to build a castle on my home county of Gwynedd. The year is 940~, so that probably puts me way ahead, and I have the tech levels to put some good points in on it. Any particular places you recommend I invest in on my castle? Upgrade the keep and barracks, and no, never ever never never ever give away your capital baronies if you have the stewardship. edit: you're welsh, so militia training grounds for the archers, to supplement your retinues. TaurusTorus fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Apr 6, 2014 |
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Apr 6, 2014 18:06
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TaurusTorus posted:Upgrade the keep and barracks, and no, never ever never never ever give away your capital baronies if you have the stewardship. Phew, I was wondering if I was making some grave error there by keeping them. Flintshire will never be parted from my King, even if it does not exist for another 800 years or so. Also, are stables worth prioritising over anything except the keep and barracks? Cavalry, from looking at stats, looks worth the investment. I am not even certain I have ever seen a heavy cavalry yet, so getting them before the rest of the world would be real nice.
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Stables don't become worth it for a while in my opinion, light cavalry suck compared to archers from the militia, heavy infantry from the barracks, and overall tons of troops from the keep. I don't think you get heavy cavalry from stables until like the 3rd or 4th one.
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Another Person posted:I had about 1200 just kicking around from good play, so I decided to build a castle on my home county of Gwynedd. The year is 940~, so that probably puts me way ahead, and I have the tech levels to put some good points in on it. Any particular places you recommend I invest in on my castle? If your home duchy really sucks other than your capital then it can be worth it to let it serve as, for example, lands for the crown prince; you shouldn't generally give it to some random dude because then he'll want your capital. Certainly in a big enough empire the best thing to do for your income is to take all of the best counties (Rome, Baghdad, Constantinople, etc.) and ignore the minor penalties you get from each of the dukes you're angering.
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Okay then, makes sense. The numbers do look much lower than the numbers the others provide. Plus, because I am Welsh I get bonuses with having archers, like cultural charges. I already have a retinue of 1000 archers sitting around though, so maybe getting more is not too beneficial. There is a hot arrow economy in Gwynedd, fletchers must be so well off. I think in an average war, a third of my army is archers. e; Nah, in general Flintshire and Powys rule - they give very good levies and the second and third highest taxes in my Kingdom. The duchy in all usually makes up about 1200 troops, then my 1000 retinue. They singlehandedly can crush any revolt, faction or claim. (not like I have had any of those. My Kingdom is probably the most stable in the world right now. Every vassal loves me and is either 100, or above 50. I own 45%~ of England right now too, so I will soon be the Dual King. Plus, my son and heir is currently married to the Queen of Denmark, so when I move onto him, I will the the King of many lands. Their eventual (hopefully) son will be the King of Scotland too, if plans go together. Denmark already has strong claims on there. Another Person fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Apr 6, 2014 |
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Another Person posted:Okay then, makes sense. The numbers do look much lower than the numbers the others provide. Plus, because I am Welsh I get bonuses with having archers, like cultural charges. I already have a retinue of 1000 archers sitting around though, so maybe getting more is not too beneficial. You're 2% of the way towards stopping the Mongols, then!
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The Mongols can get hosed. By the 1200s, I should technically be Emperor of Britain, King of Denmark, and hopefully much more. I am steamrolling. Diplomacy specialised Kings are the best. My total army right now comes to something like 5000 (before mercs). It isn't even 1066 yet! I am predicting by the year 1000 I will at least be those titles previously mentioned, with a force of 20,000. Another Person fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Apr 6, 2014 |
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Apr 6, 2014 18:26
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TaurusTorus posted:Stables don't become worth it for a while in my opinion, light cavalry suck compared to archers from the militia, heavy infantry from the barracks, and overall tons of troops from the keep. I don't think you get heavy cavalry from stables until like the 3rd or 4th one. I agree and upgrade them last, but if you only have the tech to build stables/barracks/etc. II and you have gold in your pocket, why not upgrade the stables?
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When they said they re-balanced the traits in the designer, they weren't kidding. Most of the go to negative traits are worth a lot less. It's much harder to build an ubermensch ruler now.
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Allyn posted:Makes you better at making money which could help get people into bed, I guess It means you know a lot about animal husbandry. 
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So, retinues. I am Norman , and I quite like the extra oomph of the Knight retinue, but 1600 retinue points for 500 guys is harsh. Right now it's year 1100-something and I have about 3300 retinue points, so it's either 2 knight retinues or 1 knight + 2 "normal" retinues, seen that I can pull about 6000 man of levies from my demesne I'd be inclined to go 2 knight and join them to my levies to give that extra edge, but in the future I'd like to not even pull up levies to deal with small wars/rebellions. What's a good retinue composition generally speaking ? TorakFade fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Apr 6, 2014 |
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Is the "designate heir" thing hardcoded to the indian religious group? I can't seem to add it to my own group.
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cheesetriangles posted:So why did Paradox make it so it's better to never hand out king titles as an emperor? -25 hit for vassal king but desire kingdom is only -20. vassal kings have larger troop pools too to cause trouble. I'm sitting on 2 empire titles and like 12 kingdoms and have no plans to ever give out a single one of them. I really liked the old way better where I could have vassal kings and deal with them rather than hundreds of dukes. If I were you I'd wait until the Empire is very stable and then destroy all of your kingdoms. It will remove the -20 desire kingdom at the expense of everyone in said kingdom being -50 for a generation at your king.
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Nightblade posted:Conquering Rome seems to be bugged. Possible workaround in this thread: Thanks! It seems to work; I am now at war with the pope for one of the cities he still had.
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Can anyone explain to me what's going on with the current version of the game? Has RoI been patched since release? If so, what problems did it address? The Indian Peasant Revolts? Speed of Ironman mode? I tried to look for patch notes or other things like that but all I found were the notes to the initial RoI update. **Edit: read back through the thread and I get the idea that perhaps a beta patch has been released? nazutul fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Apr 6, 2014 |
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Apr 6, 2014 20:14
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Yes it's a beta patch and yes it fixes a bunch of the issues (though not all of them -- trade post construction is still off, but that should hopefully get fixed by release). Revolts are fixed now.
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One more question: does that beta-patch update automatically for Steam users? Is it the 2.1.1 patch?
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