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Formed the Empire of India using the beta patch, it's just a shame it counted as modified so I didn't get the achievements. I was a little disappointed that the de-jure assignment was only making your primary title's de-jure land India's, rather than all the other Indian Empires too. It does seem a little bugged too. From the script files it looks like it should destroy the individual Empire titles: code:Also, unless I'm misunderstanding what active means, I shouldn't have needed to create all the Empires, since the other empires were not created at the time. I also think there's something a little bugged with revoking Kingdoms, since there are Kingdoms I can't revoke because THOSE kingdoms have too low crown authority to allow revokation.
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nazutul posted:One more question: does that beta-patch update automatically for Steam users? Is it the 2.1.1 patch? You have to opt in. Check under Steam > CK2 > Properties > Betas and opt in.
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Koramei posted:Oh how's the ironman save times with the beta patch? Still noticeable. It felt faster just after updating, but that's no proof.
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So about that Tengri invasion CB. I'm basically just waiting for my emperor to die so I can move the capitol to Constantinople. He's 65 now and has been possessed since he took the throne, though perhaps that is what led him to do all that he did. Tengri is spreading very nicely, conversions are actually happening pretty quickly and I've even thrown back a crusade for Greece. I suppose the next thing will be to start tangling with the Muslims. It does make it all the more puzzling that it isn't really uncommon to see the AI Magyars lose their initial war against Bulgaria.
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MrBling posted:So about that Tengri invasion CB. There's that ugly mess of Karling inheritances in Western Europe again. I love the Old Gods start, but man do I hate dealing with the Karling blob.
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What's going on with my titles? I recently had a greek orthodox Wali-Emir of Armeniacon.
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Neorxenawang posted:Is grey eminence preferable for wives? I usually look for high stewardship ladies so I get the demesne bonus...am I CK2ing wrong? I'm a Stewardship man myself. Probably even more important now with the massive penalties to troops and income from having too many holdings in your personal demesne.
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Oh god I just got the joke about the white elephant.
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Mantis42 posted:Oh god I just got the joke about the white elephant. I don't have ROJ; is it a Moby Dick joke?
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Koramei posted:Oh how's the ironman save times with the beta patch? Still very much noticeable, in fact I'm tempted to say they are still the same as before because I noticed no difference. Still I don't want to abandon this game as it's the only one as Karen that I've managed to get where the Saffarids don't just immediately stomp you. I think I'm about 10 or so provinces from owning the de jure Persian empire, I'm just sitting back now and saving my cash before the seljuks arrive and hoping to god the Musaid don't want a war before then because they own all of Arabia, North Africa and Spain so they currently have double my troop count.
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Edison was a dick posted:Formed the Empire of India using the beta patch, it's just a shame it counted as modified so I didn't get the achievements. The beta patch should be compatible with achievements. I got the one for holding the empires of Persia and Rajastan using the beta patch, although I did start that game before the patch.
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Riso posted:I don't have ROJ; is it a Moby Dick joke? Basically a friendly character gives you a white elephant as a gift. It then becomes a giant pain in the rear end where the options are either to keep throwing money at the problem, or give it away and make a rival out of your friend. Its a joke about the cultural concept of 'white elephant gifts', which are really tacky/bad.
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Riso posted:I don't have ROJ; is it a Moby Dick joke? A white elephant is what you call something that should be good but ends up being a money sink, ie the shuttle program was considered a white elephant for NASA.
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Cantorsdust posted:There's that ugly mess of Karling inheritances in Western Europe again. I love the Old Gods start, but man do I hate dealing with the Karling blob. I've thought about it, and I'm pretty sure that the only features that could kill of Karlingblob would also make the game bullshit to play, since eventually you want your dynasty to also be nice and big.
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hellsjudge posted:A white elephant is what you call something that should be good but ends up being a money sink, ie the shuttle program was considered a white elephant for NASA. The event chain is probably based on the literal white elephants that spawned that saying; in Southeast Asia (maybe Thailand?- you know maybe South Asia too) white elephants were sacred and held by the royal family, and they'd give them out as gifts- but it was illegal to put the sacred elephants to work, so you had on your hands an animal that is incredibly expensive to keep, but couldn't actually do anything with them. Thrasophius posted:Still very much noticeable, in fact I'm tempted to say they are still the same as before because I noticed no difference. Still I don't want to abandon this game as it's the only one as Karen that I've managed to get where the Saffarids don't just immediately stomp you. I think I'm about 10 or so provinces from owning the de jure Persian empire, I'm just sitting back now and saving my cash before the seljuks arrive and hoping to god the Musaid don't want a war before then because they own all of Arabia, North Africa and Spain so they currently have double my troop count. Bah I should have gone for achievements before RoI then. It's dumb but I feel real weird having like 150 hours in this game with 0% of the achievements done.
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I just married my 55 year old half-sister to my 16 year old son for 43 prestige. This game is great.
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I just switched over to the beta patch, and it looks like something is screwed up with tengri invasion CBs. Maybe before the beta as well - I picked the King of the Magyars, beat Bulgaria, and found that declaring victory only gave me the provinces that I specifically sieged. My opponent kept everything else. I assume that's not how it's supposed to work, right?
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Strudel Man posted:I just switched over to the beta patch, and it looks like something is screwed up with tengri invasion CBs. Maybe before the beta as well - I picked the King of the Magyars, beat Bulgaria, and found that declaring victory only gave me the provinces that I specifically sieged. My opponent kept everything else. I assume that's not how it's supposed to work, right? I think some CBs do that, in that you get to keep the provinces you have sieged within the Duchy/Kingdom/Empire that you were attacking. I don't know if the Tengri thing works like that, but I'm pretty certain that the 867 start war (The sons of Lodbrok? something like that) has that condition.
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Man, there are a lot of total conversion mods for this game. Just looking at the mod forum, you got Game of Thrones Elder Scrolls Middle Earth Dragon Age Some sci-fi thing Warhammer Fantasy Avatar: TLA The Witcher World of Darkness Touhou ...and stuff like Sengoku or the Warring States  Where is it all coming from?
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It makes a lot of sense, to me. CK2 is pretty much the only game I know of that has a grand strategy scale, while still allowing room for individuals to emerge and have an impact on gameplay. It's really a very unique game, and until someone else makes a game of the same genre, with the same degree of skill, you're going to see people repurposing the engine for their own usage.
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Strudel Man posted:I just switched over to the beta patch, and it looks like something is screwed up with tengri invasion CBs. Maybe before the beta as well - I picked the King of the Magyars, beat Bulgaria, and found that declaring victory only gave me the provinces that I specifically sieged. My opponent kept everything else. I assume that's not how it's supposed to work, right? That is exactly how it's supposed to work, although you should also vassalize any counties you didn't occupy who were within the war target (in this case any within the de jure kingdom of Hungary).
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Autonomous Monster posted:Man, there are a lot of total conversion mods for this game. Just looking at the mod forum, you got Honestly surprised there's no Star Wars in that list.  Actually, is there a good Warring States mod? All I know of is the one in-progress by a Korean dude. I tried installing Sengoku but it wasn't working, so when Rajas patches up I'll give it another shot.
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Serperoth posted:Honestly surprised there's no Star Wars in that list. Isn't there someone making a Star Wars mod? I could have sworn I saw it before.
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Autonomous Monster posted:Man, there are a lot of total conversion mods for this game. Just looking at the mod forum, you got I believe that The Game of Thrones and Elder Scrolls mod are the only ones that are in any reasonable state (I think the Middle Earth one is slowly getting somewhere as well). Easily modded games like this will always accrue a large amount of Total Conversion projects, but most of them doesn't get anywhere.
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catlord posted:Isn't there someone making a Star Wars mod? I could have sworn I saw it before. They are but its only in the planning stages.
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Oh man I will sperg so hard about that if it comes out. e: Mandalorian Crusader Kings Coruscant Universalis Palpatine: An Empire Under The Sun StashAugustine fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Apr 7, 2014 |
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Can anything think of a reason that I can't select the Beta Update option? I've restarted Steam twice, validated the game files etc. When I goto CK2 -> Properties -> Beta all I see is None, 1.111 and 2.0.4. **edit** OK so a validation, plus another restart and now I can see the option. unicr0n fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Apr 7, 2014 |
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If I update to the beta version is it going to break my save files or anything? Will the saves I have now (already under 2.1.1) automatically work in the beta?
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cryptoclastic posted:If I update to the beta version is it going to break my save files or anything? Will the saves I have now (already under 2.1.1) automatically work in the beta? Worked fine for me, but do note that it may not retroactively fix some of the issues. Like, any of those province modifiers for +50% revolt risk may well still be +50% and take forever to remove.
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Did that post-apocalyptic america mod ever get anywhere, progress wise?
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Stairmaster posted:Did that post-apocalyptic america mod ever get anywhere, progress wise? Also there was a New York City version that was planned, by a goon I think?
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crazypeltast52 posted:Also there was a New York City version that was planned, by a goon I think? That'd be Olafolaf, who posted about it not too many pages ago. I think he's currently working on making it compatible with the latest patch. Also, there's me! I'm making a fantasy total conversion mod that isn't based on any pre-existing franchise at all, but I'm currently waiting for the patch to come out of beta so I don't have to do all the work to make it beta-compatible and then have to make it patch-compatible too. DrSunshine fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Apr 7, 2014 |
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Stairmaster posted:Did that post-apocalyptic america mod ever get anywhere, progress wise? I feel like a new one pops up every few months. People get too ambitious with their ideas and attrition kicks in.
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Allyn posted:That is exactly how it's supposed to work, although you should also vassalize any counties you didn't occupy who were within the war target (in this case any within the de jure kingdom of Hungary).
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TorakFade posted:So, retinues. I am Norman , and I quite like the extra oomph of the Knight retinue, but 1600 retinue points for 500 guys is harsh. I'm still liking 100% skirmishers/longbows until you can summon large enough numbers of heavy cav. Sure sometimes your entire retinue gets completely trashed by the enemy hitting good tactics, but most of the time you massacre armies in the skirmish phase and run through holdings like they're made of wet paper. It gets you to the point where you only use retinues much faster, which is so important for constant warmongering. Once you can summon large enough numbers of heavy cav retinues you can just switch over to 100% of those if you want as it generally coincides with you being rich as a mofo. Then again I'm also of the opinion that the less time balancing my armies the better. I like being able to just split off a force and send it somewhere knowing exactly what it consists of and is capable of because it can only be 1 troop type. When you're running around a big empire crushing revolts and fighting multiple thinly-justified wars all over the world it makes it a lot less of a hassle.
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Munin posted:Btw, What happens if you give one of your relatives in your dynasty a Merchant Republic title? Can that cause issues down the line? The only thing I've noticed is that making a merchant republic will sometimes screw around with inheritances and if you have elective succession sometimes you won't be able to nominate your children. You may also find older male relatives disappearing from your court because they've become the patrician. This should only apply to unlanded dynasty members though.
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dPB posted:The only thing I've noticed is that making a merchant republic will sometimes screw around with inheritances and if you have elective succession sometimes you won't be able to nominate your children. You may also find older male relatives disappearing from your court because they've become the patrician. This should only apply to unlanded dynasty members though. I've also seen straight stuff like the heir to Dogeship of Venice being married to the Queen of Hungary because they were of the same dynasty. If you do make some distant cousin the first Doge of a Republic, though, they seem to do well because of the added prestige. By the way, speaking of merchant republics, I thought the Doge always had to be male? I noticed in my last game that one of mine had a female Doge about three times in a row.
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Strudel Man posted:Hm. I guess maybe the problem was that the guy actually had a fair bit of territory outside the de-jure kingdom. That probably explains it. You take every single holding in each county that you have sieged (only need to siege the top holding) but you vassalize any counties in the dejure kingdom you're invading, if you didn't siege them. I realized that when I invaded "greece" but never ventured beyond constatinople and ended with a bunch of greek orthodox vassals in anatolia.
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