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Doltos posted:Pretty likely. Mettenberger has a cannon and that causes scout boners to pop no matter what. I know that Mettenberger will draw a comparison to Flacco but it needs to be pointed out that Flacco's 40 time was actually a full 10th of a second faster than Bortles. It's just not a huge part of his game, is all. The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Apr 7, 2014 |
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Never ever draft a rapist. I would hate Mettenburger more than Smith if he was a Chief.
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Apr 7, 2014 00:57
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Thomas gonna get drafted by the Cardinals in the 2nd or 3rd. VT connection and he can huck the ball like Arians wants. DEEP.
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Apr 7, 2014 00:58
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Quest For Glory II posted:I think he would have had a chance, with a strong combine and pro day, to be a back of the first round prospect. The thing is, Bortles at least has Roethlisberger athleticism, he can roll out, throw on the run, run for a few yards if there's nothing there. That's all you get, but it's still more than what Mettenberger will give you. I don't think that every team wants their QB to be able to run, but I think the modern NFL QB is expected to be agile at a bare minimum. Those intriguing combinations of frame, power and speed, those are the risers, like Logan Thomas will be. Go re-watch the Ravens/49ers Super Bowl. Flacco has become very capable escaping pressure and I'd wager he's better at it than Big Ben at this stage in their careers. Joe was an absolute statute his first two years in the league but the Ravens evaded a losing season last year due to Flacco escaping collapsing pockets.
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Apr 7, 2014 01:14
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I just don't think it's a huge aspect to his game, but he's certainly capable of it, which is what I was trying to say. When the need arises, he can do it. Mettenberger hasn't shown that ability to me. His athletic ability seems more on par with that of Nick Foles, and we know what kind of runner Foles is (aka a walker).
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Apr 7, 2014 01:46
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Parmesan Basil posted:Never ever draft a rapist. I would hate Mettenburger more than Smith if he was a Chief. Not to whitewash Mettenberger's conduct, but I certainly wouldn't classify Mettenberger as "a rapist": quote:Southern Judicial Circuit district attorney J. David Miller said the charges "were the result of Mettenberger grabbing the breasts and touching the buttocks" of a 20-year-old female Valdosta State University student in the bar.
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Apr 7, 2014 02:00
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Parmesan Basil posted:Never ever draft a rapist. I would hate Mettenburger more than Smith if he was a Chief. Peyton commits sexual assault, is great and wins a ring. Roethlisberger rapes two women, wins two rings Clearly you want more rape not less
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Intruder posted:Peyton commits sexual assault, is great and wins a ring. What now?
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Apr 7, 2014 02:37
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He tea bagged a female trainer in college.
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Apr 7, 2014 02:39
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ulmont posted:Not to whitewash Mettenberger's conduct, but I certainly wouldn't classify Mettenberger as "a rapist": I was about to point this out myself; Mettenberger got drunk as a freshman at Georgia and groped some poor woman, which is horrible but not in the same realm as rape. If those unsubstantiated rumors about LSU covering up incidents with him (and that is pretty much all they've been so far) become anything but, then by all means I hope nobody touches him. By all accounts, however, Mett has seemingly turned himself around since that fuckup he committed as a freshman.
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Intruder posted:Peyton commits sexual assault, is great and wins a ring. Roethlisberger rapes two women, wins two rings https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Njr2GB9oh0
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Apr 7, 2014 02:44
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Its why Darren Sharper has won more Super Bowl rings than there are Super Bowls.
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Apr 7, 2014 03:00
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swickles posted:Its why Darren Sharper has won more Super Bowl rings than there are Super Bowls. Intangibles only apply to QBs and MLBs.
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Apr 7, 2014 03:05
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All the "insider info" I've read seems like Carr at 26 seems to be the plan. I'm really, really not sold on Carr for reasons I can't quite qualify. It just seems like he's a good-to-great college player against not-stellar competition with inflated stats and is getting a boon from both "QB inflation" and this bullshit "bloodline pedigree" stuff. For whatever reason, I think Carr is the biggest bust/boom potential of any of the QBs in this draft. Maybe I'm dumb but I don't see Carr's upside and it seems like he has a fairly average ceiling (which, admittedly, can be remedied with a Watkins/Gordon/Cameron/Rabbit receiving corps). If the Browns aren't willing to gamble on one of the Big 3 I'd rather see Jimmy Garoppolo in the second (preferably with a trade-down), outside of Manziel I think Jimmy G has a pretty high ceiling as long as he works on arm-strength/mechanics for a season or two.
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Dexo posted:Major Wright is such a good loving Safety name. I am so sad he was terrible and injury ridden. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyoIWbyEwXo
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Apr 7, 2014 03:42
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Dumbass fans. The prospect is Derek Carr, for crying out loud
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Homestar Runner posted:Dumbass fans. Feel free to ship Romo to the Texans, Dallas. I will be his replacement hot girlfriend. Faux Edit: Wait what? Instead of Romo Girlfriend I get this 
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It would be interesting to see Mettenberger to the Vikings since I think thats a system he'd do well in. Garoppolo to the Chiefs would be intriguing as well since that'd be a good QB/system match, relatively speaking. He seems like a good rhythm passer and that release is so drat quick. And Carr to the Browns because apparently that's just happening. I like Carr better than Bortles so theres that. Ugh how much longer till the drat draft?
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Apr 7, 2014 04:16
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I want Romo to win a ring right after being run out of Dallas more than anything in football barring a Bengals Superbowl win.
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Apr 7, 2014 04:16
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I think Carr to Browns is bullshit. No real reason, will hopefully be proven wrong.
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Atticus Finch posted:I think Carr to Browns is bullshit. No real reason, will hopefully be proven wrong. I completely agree with you - nobody leaks plans about their low-first pick a month in advance. Not even the browns.
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Apr 7, 2014 05:49
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Homestar Runner posted:Dumbass fans.
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Apr 7, 2014 05:51
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Really Tony Romo should leave the Cowboys, win a ring or two, and never look back as the Cowboys become perpetual bottom dwellers. The fan hate on him is that annoying. And I'm from Dallas.
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Apr 7, 2014 06:08
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I'm pretty certain Romo is a first ballot HoF if he was on most other teams.
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Nawid posted:I'm pretty certain Romo is a first ballot HoF if he was on most other teams. I would agree in a different era. Passing stats are super-inflated now though. Unless you mean because on most other teams he'd win multiple Super Bowls, because then yeah he would be a first ballot HoF.
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Atticus Finch posted:I think Carr to Browns is bullshit. No real reason, will hopefully be proven wrong. Why do you think that? Granted most smoke screens a month away from the draft are lies but if you're dismissing this one because of Carr's perceived talent then I'll have to disagree with you. Carr has a NFL skillset, he's not that far off performance wise from the top 3 QBs in this draft. A first round selection for him isn't crazy. Will he be good in the NFL? That's for his career to decide. He's just a pretty good starting point right now.
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Democratic Pirate posted:Really Tony Romo should leave the Cowboys, win a ring or two, and never look back as the Cowboys become perpetual bottom dwellers. The fan hate on him is that annoying. And I'm from Dallas. Yeah I pretty much agree with all of this
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Doltos posted:Why do you think that? Atticus Finch posted:I think Carr to Browns is bullshit. No real reason, will hopefully be proven wrong.
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Doltos posted:Why do you think that? Granted most smoke screens a month away from the draft are lies but if you're dismissing this one because of Carr's perceived talent then I'll have to disagree with you. Carr has a NFL skillset, he's not that far off performance wise from the top 3 QBs in this draft. A first round selection for him isn't crazy. I think Carr really is in many ways being hindered by his name. There is potential there to be a good NFL QB but everyone remembers Super Bowl winning QB David Carr and shudders.
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To be fair the the former Carr, he may have never been a perennial pro bowler but with even with a poor to mediocre line and a decent coach he could've been passable.
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Febreeze posted:I think Carr really is in many ways being hindered by his name. There is potential there to be a good NFL QB but everyone remembers Super Bowl winning QB David Carr and shudders. I don't. I think most NFL scouting teams would realize that even playing in the NFL makes your bloodline pretty great, let alone being the #1 overall pick for an expansion team. I do think Carr is being hindered by his name with regular joes though. SlipUp posted:To be fair the the former Carr, he may have never been a perennial pro bowler but with even with a poor to mediocre line and a decent coach he could've been passable. That's ehh. Carr threw some bad passes even when he was upright. He also doesn't play at all like his brother. David will always be the GOAT of my heart though.
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John McClain is now flip flopping off of Bortlesquote:John McClain of the Houston Chronicle projects the Texans to use the No. 1 overall pick on Texas A&M QB Johnny Manziel. He may be "plugged in" as a Texans reporter but I think he's proving he has no idea what the Texans want to do. The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Apr 7, 2014 |
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 Seems like most of the time you get a really good player if you pick after the Raiders Imagine a world with Fitz, Megatron, and Mr. Discount double check on the same team 
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Quest For Glory II posted:John McClain is now flip flopping off of Bortles To be fair, he's always been saying either Bortles or Manziel, now he's just picking one and dropping the other Also he's always wrong. He's connected, so you can kind of believe him when it comes to things currently happening in the organization, but his predictive abilities are garbage. I think he's basically the guy the Texans feed information to when they want to create a smokescreen and he takes them at their word
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Winkie01 posted:
That is like 100% the most hindsight post I've ever seen. Let's see here from the bottom to the top: Robert Gallery vs Fitzgerald - All world LT that was thought of as a can't miss prospect, desperately needed o-line help at the time. Fabian Washington vs Aaron Rodgers - All around super talented athlete, fourth all time for INTs on the Huskers, seen as a bit of a steal at the time. Rodgers was free falling and sat for three years. Michael Huff vs Donte Whitner - Huff was seen as the waaaay better prospect at the time. Whitner was a head hunter with questionable coverage skills. JaMarcus Russell vs Calvin Johnson - Ok this one was bad. Still though, it's hard to turn down a guy with a cannon like Russell, even if CJ was more of a 'can't bust' than anyone else on this list. Darren McFadden vs Glenn Dorsey - McFadden was on one of the most potent rushing attacks in NCAA. Superb athlete with as good of potential as ADP. Glenn Dorsey was also being talked up as a top 3 pick for forever, so it was a decent toss up decision (even though TFF loathes taking RBs in the first). DHB vs Eugene Monroe - Ok, very stupid at the time. No excuse for this one other than SPEED Rolando McClain vs CJ Spiller - McClain was a can't miss thumper down the middle. His off the field antics side tracked him more than his talent. Spiller also was heralded as a bust until recently. D.J. Hayden vs Sheldon Richardson - Hayden had a meteoric rise up the boards and would be taken shortly after where the Raiders took him. They also didn't have a huge need for Sheldon Richardson at the time.
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To be fair to the Raiders, the average NFL career is only 3.5 years. And most prospects bust anyway.
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Kiper came out with a 3 round mock on Insider. Can someone post this or at least the Lions picks? Yes, I am a sucker.
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Doltos posted:D.J. Hayden vs Sheldon Richardson - Hayden had a meteoric rise up the boards and would be taken shortly after where the Raiders took him. They also didn't have a huge need for Sheldon Richardson at the time.
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