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Fingers McLongDong posted:Hall is usable in other colors I guess, or you could have both it and spear out at the same time. Don't see it being terribly relevant though. Wouldn't be bad in limited. It might warrant me testing it in monoU as a 1 or 2 of. Not having Master Tokens die when he does seems good
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A big flaming stink posted:Let's not go nuts, it's gruul war chant that lets your creatures win combat all the time. How important is it for Big Boros to win creature battles? Is it worth playing a potentially dead card in non-creature matchups? I would be genuinely pretty surprised if there are any real non-creature matchups come rotation.
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Just wanted to interject the spoiler hype with the following: the Top 8 of GP Phoenix had 27 of a possible 32 copies of Mutavault. The Top 16 adds 29 of 32 possible. SCG Milwaukee featured 23 of 32 possible. And Mutavault is nowhere to be found in the "top 5 cards" article on the GP coverage page. http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/eventcoverage/gpphx14/welcome Look at the domination - 80% Mutavault decks, completely overshadowing the next most played card, Thoughtseize in 39% of decks: http://www.mtgtop8.com/topcards?f=ST&meta=52 Just one thing to think about during spoiler season.
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Apr 7, 2014 09:13
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Aurelia and Iroas is such a beating, if you have any devotion on the field and play aurelia with the god on the field that's just 20 damage right there, which can't be blocked profitably, with nykthos and such around playing those two T4 and T5 seems like a real possibility.
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Apr 7, 2014 09:27
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Victor Surge posted:
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Apr 7, 2014 09:41
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Count Bleck posted:Edit: Also gently caress yes I knew the color would be purple What's purple?
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Alris posted:And I just completed my playset of Boros Reckoner and you didn't read the nonbo.
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Apr 7, 2014 09:52
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Crackatastic posted:and you didn't read the nonbo. Seems like it'd still be worth playing even if it's a nonbo. Reckoner is good when you don't draw the god and it's about the most efficient devotion enabler in those colors.
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Apr 7, 2014 09:57
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Applebees posted:What's purple? The booster pack.
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Apr 7, 2014 10:03
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I just tried to go to mtgsalvation for a non-visual spoiler that I can look at while at work, but wow did they mess up that website. Anybody has any recommendations as to what to use now?
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Apr 7, 2014 11:51
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 Hmm, I wonder what this will do to the mono-black aggro deck Conley has been working on, I mean it seems legit, and having 3, 1 mana 2 power dudes seems legit, especially since this one has bestow. Especially because you could bestow this on an opponents blocker to get through lethal. May not come up all the time, but seems pretty drat good to me.
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Apr 7, 2014 12:49
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Also, has a relevant creature type if RB Minotaurs becomes a thing. Though I don't think Ragemonger lets you Bestow it for (3), unfortunately.
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Jabor posted:Also, has a relevant creature type if RB Minotaurs becomes a thing. Though I don't think Ragemonger lets you Bestow it for (3), unfortunately. Should still work, it's still a Minotaur spell, like a tribal enchantment.
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Jabor posted:Also, has a relevant creature type if RB Minotaurs becomes a thing. Though I don't think Ragemonger lets you Bestow it for (3), unfortunately. TheLawinator posted:Should still work, it's still a Minotaur spell, like a tribal enchantment. It does not because it looses its creature type and subtype when you opt to bestow it. It is either Enchantment Creature - Minotaur for B or Enchantment Aura for 3B. The Tribal type allows creature subtypes to be on cards that normally can't have them. If it was Tribal Enchantment Creature - Minotaur then yes, when you bestowed it it would change to Tribal Enchantment Aura Minotaur. That is what tribal actually does. jassi007 fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Apr 7, 2014 |
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Apr 7, 2014 13:19
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Hoping Keranos is half as awesome as Iroas so I can play UR with him and spellheart chimera.
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Apr 7, 2014 13:36
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Both new mechanics are super  lameness that barely deserve to be keyworded, but I don't care because all the actual cards spoiled have been really cool.
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Apr 7, 2014 13:38
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I can't imagine high-end Boros Midrange really being a thing, though, as much as I would love for Aurelia to be A Thing outside of EDH. I run Lazav in my Phenax deck, and even costing 2 mana less, he only helps Pheanx get online about half the time just due to all the creature destruction in the format. (i.e. Eventually, Phenax and Lazav are the only ones alive. And Aurelia doesn't have Hexproof.) Iroas definitely has the potential to top off a curve following Boros Reckoner, Brimaz, and/or Spear of Heliod. Either way, I think he would make an amazing Commander.
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Apr 7, 2014 14:11
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Strive is potentially really terrifying for Limited, at least in this block specifically. Cards like Reap what is Sown and Dauntless Onslaught are already super dangerous because of the blowout potential.
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Apr 7, 2014 14:12
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I am going to draft so many decks that try to abuse that starfish, I tell you what.
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Apr 7, 2014 14:25
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Can someone point out how Iroas, God of Victory isn't completely broken in the current meta?
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Alris posted:And I just completed my playset of Boros Reckoner I don't think he's great with Reckoner's since if you're attacking with it, it won't take damage to redirect and that deck doesn't want to play a 3 mana spell that is primarily a blocker. Brimaz on the other hand is ridiculous with that god. mcmagic fucked around with this message at 14:31 on Apr 7, 2014 |
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Apr 7, 2014 14:29
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Korak posted:Can someone point out how Iroas, God of Victory isn't completely broken in the current meta? UW/Esper control still doesn't care and never runs blockers. Verdict is a sorcery and det sphere exists.
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Apr 7, 2014 14:31
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Korak posted:Can someone point out how Iroas, God of Victory isn't completely broken in the current meta? Well, it's not very good against blue devotion or Esper, and it doesn't slot in especially well into the Boros burn decks except maybe as a 1-of. Not sure how anyone could conclude that it'll be broken, or even that strong.
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Madmarker posted:
Mortimer posted:UW/Esper control still doesn't care and never runs blockers. Verdict is a sorcery and det sphere exists.
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Apr 7, 2014 14:34
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Constellation could end up being scary in limited if there's enough cheap common cards that use it. Getting like 3 different effects every time you cast something... Watch it end up being only on CMC 4+ cards and have no decent effects besides the rare draw-a-card one though.
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Apr 7, 2014 14:35
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Myriad Truths posted:Well, it's not very good against blue devotion or Esper, and it doesn't slot in especially well into the Boros burn decks except maybe as a 1-of. Not sure how anyone could conclude that it'll be broken, or even that strong. It's not for a Boros burn deck. It's for a White Weenie deck that splashes Red.
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Is Suicide Black still a thing that is viable in any format? Because I just noticed that Gnarled Scarhide would fit in rather well with the likes of Sarcomancy, Carnophage, and I guess any other 2-power-1-drops that exist post-Eighth Edition that I can't recall.
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mcmagic posted:It's not for a Boros burn deck. It's for a White Weenie deck that splashes Red. Yeah but like white weenie isn't even a deck in the current meta so I think we might have been talking at cross purposes there.
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Mercury Crusader posted:Is Suicide Black still a thing that is viable in any format? Because I just noticed that Gnarled Scarhide would fit in rather well with the likes of Sarcomancy, Carnophage, and I guess any other 2-power-1-drops that exist post-Eighth Edition that I can't recall. I definitely goes with or replaces one of those in Cube. Why do cubes all seem to run Sarcomancy anyway? Are there really no better black 1 drops by now, or are they running it in addition to Diregraf Ghoul, Rakdoes Cackler, Tormented Hero, etc. etc. rather than instead of? Is there something I'm missing about Sarcomancy that makes it good card?
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tzirean posted:More importantly: does mono-black's sweeper see play and lock up the deck through rotation, or is it too expensive and/or too weak to some of the format's best creatures? Although I will definitely test it because maybe there is a more midrange deck that could use it as a one sided sweeper.
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Entropic posted:Why do cubes all seem to run Sarcomancy anyway? Are there really no better black 1 drops by now, or are they running it in addition to Diregraf Ghoul, Rakdoes Cackler, Tormented Hero, etc. etc. rather than instead of? It makes a Zombie, which is relevant with Gravecrawler. It also combos with things like Kor Skyfisher. The enchantment sticks around to power devotion too, but I don't think that's a huge thing in Cube.
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DurdleDuck posted:The enchantment sticks around to power devotion too, but I don't think that's a huge thing in Cube. It might be, aren't there Black Chroma cards and doesn't that basically use the same source?
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Inspired not sticking around in JOU is sorta obnoxious. Not that it was worth building around in BNG, but I always thought "okay, it'll be back in the last set, I'll be able to go deep on the Journey pack then reap rewards in the Born pack." But nope! It's just a middling mechanic from the middle pack. Good thing they printed all those inspired enablers. 
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Count Bleck posted:It might be, aren't there Black Chroma cards and doesn't that basically use the same source? There's one black chroma card and it only cares about the graveyard.  But if you're running a pauper/peasant cube with Gary then it might matter.
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Iroas is pretty cool, wonder if RW will get any other fun toys with this set. Might be glad I kept that playset of Reckoners around after all. Boros Supremacy.
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Boxman posted:Inspired not sticking around in JOU is sorta obnoxious. Not that it was worth building around in BNG, but I always thought "okay, it'll be back in the last set, I'll be able to go deep on the Journey pack then reap rewards in the Born pack." MaRo posted on his blog today that there are a couple inspired cards in Journey, I'll find it when I'm not on my phone.
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Boxman posted:Inspired not sticking around in JOU is sorta obnoxious. Not that it was worth building around in BNG, but I always thought "okay, it'll be back in the last set, I'll be able to go deep on the Journey pack then reap rewards in the Born pack." Honestly I think they just made Inspired so they could make Dark Confidant v0.5 Because they did little to nothing with it.
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My favorite part of Constellation is Mana Bloom getting picked up as a speculation target again after it first got a lot of hype in Theros spoiler season and never went anywhere.
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Vomax posted:There's one black chroma card and it only cares about the graveyard. I think sarcomancy is a rare though.
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