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itsnice2bnice posted:The Minister for Economic Affairs, Laurens Jan Brinkhorst, said that "the lights would go off" in the case of a rejection and that The Netherlands would become "the Switzerland of Europe." And just to give an update on Denmark, the Danish People's Party would now be the second largest party in Denmark according to the most recent poll, at 21% of the votes. On top of that, one of our big "political experts" has joined me in thinking it's not entirely implausible for them to become the largest party by the next election. I guess the best we can hope for is them fumbling when they can no longer act simply as opposition or just a supporter of the government, and actually have to be in a position of taking hits for their failures.
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"The Switzerland of Europe". Going back to the French elections. Here's the story of an immigrant running for election under the ticket of party against immigrants running in French elections. Luís da Silva Canedo is a Portuguese immigrant living in France for 30 years,never applied for dual nationality, and is running on the list of the city of Perpignan. He is one of 30 Portuguese of single nationality on the lists of National Front. Luís da Silva Canedo posted:I accepted being on this list because [Perpignan] is being invaded by arabs, islam is destroying our catholic convictions and there's zones in Perpignan, even in the centre, where the police doesn't go due to the heavy presence of arabs and gypsies. Of course NF position on immigrants running for elections is changing.(eventually). Luís da Silva Canedo posted:I talked about that when the lists were drawn, but everything about the NF is changing, that position will change. Marine le Pen. Luís da Silva Canedo posted:Marine is no more incompetent than François Hollande or Nicolas Sarkozy, both were a disappointment. I used to be a socialist but they disappointed me, I have been interested in politics for over 20 years. (...) Hollande does not have the status for being President, that is obvious, and Sarkozy was a misery, he diminished, destroyed the police and closed schools. The socialist have already given up in favour of the right, it's a scandal! (NF got 34% of votes against 30% of the right and 11% of the socialists) (http://expresso.sapo.pt/eu-portugues-admirador-de-marine-le-pen-diz-um-candidato-pela-fn-em-franca=f862392) This kinda of position seems to be weirdly common among Portuguese immigrants in France, which is a pretty big minority in France. Of course, most seem to forget that Portuguese immigrants were always seen as scum who lived in lovely slums, during the mass immigration during the 60/70's. I wager that if we take a peek at the French media of 40 years ago where going to find a lot of stuff about how "the police can't go to the centre of towns due to those gens des baraques!." Guess we exported our fascists to France. This also happened in Switzerland, where Portuguese immigrants also lived in slums and were considered sub-human, when the referendum for tightening of border rules came up, we had a lot of long time Portuguese immigrants screaming of the top of their lungs "WE FULL! GO AWAY!!". Electronico6 fucked around with this message at 13:05 on Mar 28, 2014 |
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Gotta kick that ladder. Also I love the whole "the police doesn't dare go there" bullshit. I heard the same poo poo at my Dutch high school about a trailer park (sorta, not entirely analogous to the US version) in a nearby village. Except, of course, it's totally bullshit. Fun fact though: that nearby city is one of the main villages in the municipality with the largest support percentage for Wilders and his PVV. In conclusion, gently caress Rucphen and gently caress St. Willebrord. Orange Devil fucked around with this message at 13:15 on Mar 28, 2014 |
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Orange Devil posted:Gotta kick that ladder. Do right wingers have like an international or some poo poo how do they come up with the same dumbass talking points?
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# ? Mar 30, 2014 04:12 |
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itsnice2bnice posted:The government who campaigned in favor also acted like major shitlords, I'm gonna be lazy and C&P Wikipedia here for some great stuff: War? How crazy do you have to be to think the EU would go to war with the Netherlands over a No vote?
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# ? Mar 30, 2014 04:24 |
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Gen. Ripper posted:War? How crazy do you have to be to think the EU would go to war with the Netherlands over a No vote? Nah, that wasn't what he meant. He argued that rejecting the constitution would somehow lead to the Balkanization of Europe. Exactly how Europe would fragment or who would invade / ethnically cleanse who was left to the imagination.
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Electronico6 posted:"The Switzerland of Europe". As a Pure-Blooded French ok I'm half a greaseball, I demand that your lot be shipped back to Lisbon But seriously gently caress this country
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Electronico6 posted:(http://expresso.sapo.pt/eu-portugues-admirador-de-marine-le-pen-diz-um-candidato-pela-fn-em-franca=f862392) I don't think this is weird at all, it's par for the course these days. It seems like the "we were here first" white European immigrants are an important electorate for nationalist parties, provided they aren't a target. I recently read an article about the political activity of the Polish minority in Sweden. Apparently they overwhelmingly support the two rightmost parties, and especially the Sweden Democrats. Because gently caress solidarity, just indulge your racism against those drat dirty Muslims and hope the local racists pick you out to be the model minority. Simultaneously, the same people screech about how unfair it is that the analogous Progress Party in neighboring Norway scapegoats Poles, presumably because they're supposed to be scapegoating Middle Eastern people. "Suck up to the stronger group and then go pick on those even weaker and more excluded than you" is, like, the most basic level of politics. Without delving into , even chimps have that one figured out, so we're probably stuck with it.
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# ? Mar 30, 2014 10:43 |
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Fun thing is that Swedish poles still get very discriminated at the housing and job market. As someone with a polish surname, it's very very obvious.
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Rutkowski posted:Fun thing is that Swedish poles still get very discriminated at the housing and job market. As someone with a polish surname, it's very very obvious. All the more reason to join the Sweden Democrats! It's the only way to end the discrimination by proving you're a true, loyal Swede. (I'm sure there's a joke in there about the term Stockholm Syndrome) Plus, in a lot of source countries like Poland or ex-Yugoslavia (lots of SD members from there too if I'm not mistaken), racist views are more easily accepted, so it's a natural electorate. I used to do guided tours in Sweden. You wouldn't believe the number of tourists who thought the best way to strike up a conversation with their tour guide was to open with horrible racist poo poo, ranging from "Sweden would be perfect if it wasn't full of, well, you know" to full-on "oh yeah, it's wonderful here, too bad it'll collapse soon since they're letting the savages take over".
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# ? Mar 30, 2014 14:03 |
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Orange Devil posted:Gotta kick that ladder. Except it is not. The police does not go into gypsy camps on normal occaisions. When they do it is with full SWAT like teams and hundreds of men and police helicopters circling overhead and it makes the national news. edit: Note that several of these raids were conducted because tax inspectors could not do their work in the camps without such a show of force. NihilismNow fucked around with this message at 14:08 on Mar 30, 2014 |
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NihilismNow posted:Except it is not. The police does not go into gypsy camps on normal occaisions. When they do it is with full SWAT like teams and hundreds of men and police helicopters circling overhead and it makes the national news. Not according to the police officers I spoke to about the woonwagenkamp in Rucphen, so eh. Orange Devil fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Mar 30, 2014 |
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http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/french-government-threat-election-blow-23124153 Welp, thanks for the effort Hollande. 3\10
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Mans posted:http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/french-government-threat-election-blow-23124153 Valls is going to be nominated. Fight fascism with fascism.
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Valls? Goddamn this is a loving nightmare. Edit: he truly is the new Prime Minister hahahahaha Reminder that Valls was the right most participant in the Socialist presidential primaries, got the least amount of votes (okay besides the Non-socialist dude), he calls himself is a Blairist, as Interior Minister continued the ill treatment of Romas. Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Mar 31, 2014 |
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Wtf are you doing france?
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# ? Mar 31, 2014 21:39 |
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France is a very important country, and they're pretty tired of others forgetting that.
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Lamadrid posted:Wtf are you doing france? Competing with the UK for the right to become the unofficial 51st US state!
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A Buttery Pastry posted:And just to give an update on Denmark, the Danish People's Party would now be the second largest party in Denmark according to the most recent poll, at 21% of the votes. On top of that, one of our big "political experts" has joined me in thinking it's not entirely implausible for them to become the largest party by the next election. I guess the best we can hope for is them fumbling when they can no longer act simply as opposition or just a supporter of the government, and actually have to be in a position of taking hits for their failures. This is truly horrifying news, but I don't think we'll see DFs supremacy lasting more than one election. As you note, they thrive on being contrarian fucktards, and though they are one of the most media-savvy parties out there, you can only call for a christian jihad so long before the danes tire of your poo poo. What is much worse as I see it, is that they will allow some really racist statements to become acceptable in the public discourse, giving members and justifications to the violent neo-nazis we have on the street level.
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A video leaked a couple days back showing the Greek government's general secretary on very friendly terms with the Golden Dawn's top dog: Article quote:Golden Dawn spokesperson triggers political storm by releasing taped conversation with government general secretary (Full English Transcript) (UPD) Damage control since: Baltakos has been trying to make it look like he was doing this on his own, acting as a spy of sorts, without Samaras (the prime minister) knowing about it. I'm not sure anyone actually buys that piss-poor explanation.
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There are many people though that approve the lift of immunity of Golden Dawn leadership and the role of the Government in that. The main left critique is that the government was late in doing so and ONLY after the death of Pavlos Fissas, a white greek male, actions were taken so that many of the cases against Golden Dawn being brought to court.
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fafish posted:There are many people though that approve the lift of immunity of Golden Dawn leadership and the role of the Government in that. The main left critique is that the government was late in doing so and ONLY after the death of Pavlos Fissas, a white greek male, actions were taken so that many of the cases against Golden Dawn being brought to court. There is a huge critique available thanks to this leak: First, because New Democracy/the government was doing this just in order to get an electoral advantage over SYRIZA. Second, because it shows there's a connexion that runs deep between the government and Golden Dawn (Baltakos' post, general secretary of the government, is very important and appointed by the prime minister). Third, because of both of the previous points it brings into question the honesty of the persecution against the Golden Dawn; if it's only done to get an electoral advantage over SYRIZA by cutting into GD's polling, and they are on good terms with them, there's a good chance the persecution itself was just a show that avoided actually harming GD.
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http://www.independent.com.mt/articles/2014-04-06/news/lega-nord-activists-sortie-on-tunisia-flounders-in-farce-off-malta-4517920768 quote:Seven Lega Nord activists wanted to make a point by sailing a rubber dinghy from Italy to Tunisia to show how easy it is for asylum seekers to cross over in the opposite direction. Also, in Dutch news: ~70 people protested in support of Geert Wilders racist comments in Nijmegen this weekend, but luckily ~250 protested against their widely publicised march
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ekuNNN posted:
Apparently the news was a hoax but goddamn it was a fun one.
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Rutkowski posted:Apparently the news was a hoax but goddamn it was a fun one. Haha, yeah I just found that out too. It was too perfect to be true
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Cops tell the general public to stay away from Jönköping(and if you're already there, stay inside) where the nazis have a may day parade. The public's response? Arm up and roll out. There's a mobilization that hasn't been seen since the 30th of November parades in the 90's. People are tired of the nazis and the cops that protect them and refuse to let the nazis control where people can and cannot be. Stay tuned on the first of may because goddamn, it's going to be something else.
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Filip Dewinter, leader of the Belgian party Vlaams Belang went postering for the elections on tuesday, in an Croatian army jacket bearing the white power symbol. Vlaams Belang got 15% of the vote in the last elections.
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ekuNNN posted:Filip Dewinter, leader of the Belgian party Vlaams Belang went postering for the elections on tuesday, in an Croatian army jacket bearing the white power symbol. Is there any reason why he was wearing a Croatian army jacket? As a Croat, I feel vaguely offended by this.
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Barbe Rouge posted:Is there any reason why he was wearing a Croatian army jacket? Welcome to the EU.
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Barbe Rouge posted:Is there any reason why he was wearing a Croatian army jacket? He is desperate and wants to provoke outrage, because that used to work to put their issues in the center of Belgian politics. Nowadays, they are mostly ignored as a political entity and keep leaking votes to N-VA. The problem is that all mainstream parties have shifted their rhetoric towards their programme over the years (Strong on migration! Law and Order! War on Drugs!) Antwan3K fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Apr 16, 2014 |
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Barbe Rouge posted:Is there any reason why he was wearing a Croatian army jacket? Well, it also has the emblem of the HOS. From the wikipage on the Far Right in Croatia: quote:Among the organizations formed during wartime which were most commonly associated with neo-Ustashism was the Croatian Defence Forces (Hrvatske obrambene snage, HOS), which emerged as the de facto paramilitary wing of the Croatian Party of Rights. Their symbols included dressing in black, at the time widely perceived to be reminiscent of blackshirts, and using the phrase Za dom spremni (Ready for the home-land). "According to Dewinter it was a jacket from his youth which he always used to wear when he went postering, so it was only meant as personal nostalgia." Another pic where you can see the HOS patch clearer: I guess nationalist shitheads stick together if they consider each other white enough.
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I know about HOS and I recognized the patch, I just thought he maybe had some kind of connection to Croatia since it seems like a pretty specific thing to wear.
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The international far right love Croatia because the Ustase were insanely zealous and brutal.
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This is certainly something. http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/1.585897
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ulvir posted:This is certainly something. http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/1.585897 Russians on reddit claim it is Ukraine that is the one registering jews, and they use this as proof
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OwlBot 2000 posted:The international far right love Croatia because the Ustase were insanely zealous and brutal. To add to this for those unfamiliar with just how bad the Ustase regime was: They were the only non-German fascists to build their own extermination camp.
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They also operated with the implicit approval of the Pope and the Catholic Church in general, perhaps to an even greater degree than Nazi Germany. Isn't that lovely?
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PT6A posted:They also operated with the implicit approval of the Pope and the Catholic Church in general, perhaps to an even greater degree than Nazi Germany. Isn't that lovely? To be fair, the Church had pretty explicitly condemned major tenants of Nazi ideology under Pius XI, and even spoke out against the Nazi State directly when they began killing the disabled during Action T4. Their stance towards Croatian fascism however was woefully politically minded and weak from the beginning, and it's a bit shocking this period in history isn't brought up more when the subject of Pius XII's canonization is being discussed.
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Some good news: Swedish anti-fascist Showan Shattak, known by the hashtag and campaign #KämpaShowan (Kämpa means fight or struggle), who was stabbed by Swedish nazis trained by Svoboda in Euromaidan, is doing well. quote:"Yesterday after 6 weeks of neurological Department and 4 operations, I finished my intensive care.
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ekuNNN posted:
What training do you need to stab someone, and why is there any reason to think Euromaidan was involved?
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