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KKKlean Energy posted:If you two are gonna argue about whether the monarch has the last word or not, maybe define what "the last word" is and on what issues the monarch has it? With respect to Parliament she has the last word because a bill does not become law until it receives the Royal Assent. In that formal sense she has "the last word". big scary monsters posted:I see this importance used a lot as a reason we need the Queen, but it always seems to me a reason for constitutional reform rather than maintaining the monarchy. Just to be clear, I wasn't saying that the symbolic importance of the Queen is the reason we need the Queen. I was just responding to the person who questioned the consistency of saying that the Queen is both constitutionally important and almost entirely symbolic. The better argument for retaining the monarch is that a system in which the Head of State is apolitical and politically neutered (apart from the covert lobbying the monarchy may do at times), is a pretty good system. However, if you're willing to go in for complete reform of the entire system then obviously that argument won't appeal to you. I'm quite fond of Parliamentary democracy as it exists in the UK, and I think Parliamentary democracy is probably better off with an apolitical monarch than an elected Head of State. However, I'm unsure of whether UK-style Parliamentary democracy is a 'better' system than a constitutional republic along the lines of USA or France.
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Peaches Geldof had two kids, poo poo.
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Apr 7, 2014 18:37
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Crow, Benn and now Peaches Geldof. When will the madness end!?!
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Apr 7, 2014 18:50
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Was she a druggie girl? Always seemed a bit dopey but its bloody bad luck to stroke out at 25. Maybe she decided to go and meet the aliens or something.
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Apr 7, 2014 18:51
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And tomorrow is the anniversary of Margaret Thatchers death (and my kids first birthday which is why I remember). That is really awful for the family though, I hope it doesn't turn out to be drugs or drink related for their sake.
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Apr 7, 2014 18:54
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hookerbot 5000 posted:And tomorrow is the anniversary of Margaret Thatchers death (and my kids first birthday which is why I remember). Do you fear reincarnation?
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Apr 7, 2014 18:56
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hookerbot 5000 posted:That is really awful for the family though, I hope it doesn't turn out to be drugs or drink related for their sake. I already heard the news saying they don't know any details at all... but she has a history of drug use and also her mum died of a drug overdose drugs drugs drugs also she posted a picture of her mum the day before makes you think and so on
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Apr 7, 2014 18:57
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Scientology didn't save her. 
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Apr 7, 2014 18:59
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Gonzo McFee posted:Do you fear reincarnation? Very slightly, she is pretty monstrous so far.
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Apr 7, 2014 19:00
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Never had any time for her as a presenter, or columinist, but it is still very sad. She apparently dabbled with drugs when younger, but the beeb article practically has neon sign posts over it such as above mentioned and was called because people feared for her safety. Bob Geldof has had enough upset for one life, I think. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26931337 I could have made a really obvious joke, but as I have spent all day dealing with ramifications of death, I suddenly developed common sense, and general decency
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Apr 7, 2014 19:01
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hookerbot 5000 posted:Very slightly, she is pretty monstrous so far. You'll have to wait till she's a toddler, if all the milk in the fridge goes missing start to worry.
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Apr 7, 2014 19:07
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ReV VAdAUL posted:You'll have to wait till she's a toddler, if all the milk in the fridge goes missing start to worry. baka kaba posted:I already heard the news saying they don't know any details at all... but she has a history of drug use and also her mum died of a drug overdose drugs drugs drugs also she posted a picture of her mum the day before makes you think and so on Could simply be she did a Heath Ledger, she was almost certainly sleep deprived. The 1.35PM emergency call would suggest against that though. I don't really think it would be any less tragic than, say, a congenital heart condition if that were the case.
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Apr 7, 2014 19:15
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I bet bob really hates Mondays now. Sorry.
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Apr 7, 2014 19:38
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Seaside Loafer posted:I bet bob really hates Mondays now. Sorry. Yeah thats the tasteless joke I avoided. Well done picking up the ball, though, Loafer.
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Apr 7, 2014 19:40
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Trickjaw posted:Yeah thats the tasteless joke I avoided. Well done picking up the ball, though, Loafer. poo poo the train station, and now the bed
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Apr 7, 2014 19:44
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Debate Disco: The Place To Post The Peaches Geldof Jokes You Won't On Facebook
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Things aren't looking so peachy at the Geldof residence.
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Apr 7, 2014 20:01
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Kegluneq posted:You don't have to wait that long for babies to go for milk. Yeah but it's more that the news knows absolutely nothing about it, but they've gone straight to implying it was the demon drugs or suicide. Mind you this was after a description of the Pastorius trial that sounded like bad fan fiction ("his voice......... his words...... ") so it's not like it's a surprise
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Apr 7, 2014 20:12
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nuzak posted:Peaches Geldof had two kids, poo poo. I know a girl who killed herself, her mother committed suicide when the girl was just a kid. my friend hung herself in the same field as her mother's ashes were scattered in. Peaches probably wanted to join her mother. If you read some of the quotes it sounded that she thought bob's atittude was 'keep calm and carry on' when Paula Yates died and that peaches didn't get a chance to grieve properly.
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Apr 7, 2014 20:14
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hookerbot 5000 posted:And tomorrow is the anniversary of Margaret Thatchers death (and my kids first birthday which is why I remember). Really? Wow, feels like it was just last week. Perfect timing, I have an interview tomorrow and it's always good to look cheerful 
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Apr 7, 2014 20:15
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Seaside Loafer posted:Was she a druggie girl? Just a bit. She was weird, and I say that as a person who has multiple schizophrenic friends. Being born into celebrity does strange things to people.
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Apr 7, 2014 20:19
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Seaside Loafer posted:Was she a druggie girl? Always seemed a bit dopey but its bloody bad luck to stroke out at 25. Maybe she decided to go and meet the aliens or something. I remember reading a story by someone on these very forums who recreationally used heroin and ended up loving peaches. in one of those encounters with celebrities threads in gbs.
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Apr 7, 2014 20:21
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JFairfax posted:I know a girl who killed herself, her mother committed suicide when the girl was just a kid. my friend hung herself in the same field as her mother's ashes were scattered in. I know the tabloids will be face down in the trough about yet another tragedy in a seemingly doomed family, but I can't get why people frigging speculate about still warm corpses. My local paper has posted and article interviewing a dog handler who was on some show with her and 'she was too demanding and bossy'. Well, maybe, but how is that relevant? Let the bloody coroner have a look first, then debate it. As hookerbot pointed out, tomorrow is the first anniversary of Thatcher's descent. If you want to celebrate a death, this is where you start. I sadly misse dit all last year as was in hospital, and if I had the use of my legs I would have danced the dance of ages.
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Apr 7, 2014 20:23
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Renaissance Robot posted:Really? Wow, feels like it was just last week. Perfect timing, I have an interview tomorrow and it's always good to look cheerful
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Apr 7, 2014 20:23
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Trickjaw posted:If you want to celebrate a death, this is where you start. What gave you the impression I was celebrating peaches death? I was relating a story about how someone I know died in similar circumstance, and that having a mother commit suicide when you're a kid can really gently caress you up.
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Apr 7, 2014 20:25
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JFairfax posted:What gave you the impression I was celebrating peaches death? I was relating a story about how someone I know died in similar circumstance, and that having a mother commit suicide when you're a kid can really gently caress you up. Sorry, sorry, I was talking more about the bbc article that immediately starts up the drugs and loony bandwagon, and the inevitable dogpile of the press. Sorry again, I really am. Bit raw this evening. No excuse, just a reason.
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Apr 7, 2014 20:30
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baka kaba posted:Yeah but it's more that the news knows absolutely nothing about it, but they've gone straight to implying it was the demon drugs or suicide. Mind you this was after a description of the Pastorius trial that sounded like bad fan fiction ("his voice......... his words...... ") so it's not like it's a surprise 
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Spangly A posted:
Just the one friend then.
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Pissflaps posted:Just the one friend then. wheeeeeeeeey. Kegluneq posted:Those are the most common cause of death for people of her age, and given that she died in her home and had no major illnesses that we know of, are by far the most likely. It is crass to speculate with absolutely no further information, but simply reporting the story begs the question. Yeah you can't blame people for asking, Peaches never spoke about any health issues, she was 25, had red flags for personality disorder. If it's not suspicious there's not much that fits the story as-reported.
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Apr 7, 2014 20:50
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Larry_Mullet posted:Gonna start a change.org campaign to stop General China from shooting an air rifle pellet into the chest of a Pheasant and making it die a long protracted painful death via infection. Cos if you think you're headshotting/clean killing a Pheasant with an air rifle you just picked up off the market then you're mistaken, if you just left some seeds out or grew some heather they wouldn't dig your poo poo up and you wouldn't have to take a life. I'm actually not a bad shot. Back when society was a bit more relaxed about the whole firearms thing even lovely state comps in the north east had shooting clubs, or at least mine did. I consistently came top. We use .22 training lee enfields at the local ta place. I also wiped the floor clay pidgeon shooting with a load of squaddies at a stag do. Being beaten by a probably gay male nurse upset them. I know how to zero a rifle and I'm not going to buy the cheapest air rifle off the market. A second hand BSA will do me. There is an abundance of heather in the garden, but the young shoots of garlic and onions seem to be the tastier option. At least they will taste nice.
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Apr 7, 2014 20:59
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hookerbot 5000 posted:And tomorrow is the anniversary of Margaret Thatchers death (and my kids first birthday which is why I remember). Also the Buddha's birthday. At least it is if you use the Gregorian calendar. Happy Vesak everybody!  Sadly the nearest temple is kind of cult-y so I think I'll just wait until Easter and join in the celebrations with my Christian mates. Their festival has chocolate and cakes, no wonder it's the state religion down south.
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Apr 7, 2014 21:04
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Truly this mediocre tv presenter was the queen of all our hearts. (not really: I doubt I've spent a minute thinking about her in my entire life and certainly never watched any of her programmes. Still a bit surprised to hear she's dropped dead though - it's not like there'd been any Amy Winehouse-style public breakdowns that would have warned you it was coming.)
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Apr 7, 2014 21:05
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Right now Maria Miller must be weighing up whether to make a tribute or if people will think it a bit tasteless for her to eulogise the woman whose death probably saved her job.
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Apr 7, 2014 21:13
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I once accidentally stuck my arse through the window of Peaches Geldof's car. Well, that's my story, goodnight everyone!
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Mousepractice posted:I once accidentally stuck my arse through the window of Peaches Geldof's car. Well, that's my story, goodnight everyone! Get back here, son. Accidentally? Arse? etc.
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Apr 7, 2014 21:15
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Mousepractice posted:I once accidentally stuck my arse through the window of Peaches Geldof's car. Well, that's my story, goodnight everyone! Were you in the car or out the car? Where was most of you anyway.
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Apr 7, 2014 21:17
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Renaissance Robot posted:Really? Wow, feels like it was just last week. Yeah, poo poo I actually still can't believe it, it's been a year? What the gently caress. I'm old. 
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Apr 7, 2014 21:21
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McDragon posted:Were you in the car or out the car? Where was most of you anyway. He'd just run out of a station looking for a quiet place, and thought the car was empty.
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Apr 7, 2014 21:24
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Most of me was on Brick Lane, by the beigel shop, where I was getting a hangover bagel. Peaches Geldof, wealthy and dim, was being slowly chauffeured through the dense crowd of the Sunday market. People pushed onto the pavement, I slipped on a gherkin and fell backwards through the open window of her car. She squealed at the sight of my hairy crack (jeans caught on the door) and her driver floored it. e: I didn't drop my bagel.
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Mousepractice posted:and her driver floored it. I hope you reported him.
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