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Travis343 posted:The fact that Aurorus gets Refridgerate is loving heartbreaking and I really wish it were a better pokemon because a Northern Lights Sauropod with an ability like that would rule so much. Its hidden ability is Snow Warning, which is a great ability. Aurorus' real problem is that it might have the worst defensive typing in the entire game (not even an exaggeration) and an extraordinarily lame stat distribution.
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Hyper Voice also gets through Substitute, which makes Sylveon straight up gank Gliscor.
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Apr 8, 2014 04:47
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Icy Penguigo posted:Its hidden ability is Snow Warning, which is a great ability. Too bad there's no way to get it yet.
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Apr 8, 2014 04:49
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Dr Pepper posted:Trick Room Hail. That would work, I gave mine a scarf and stuck it on a hail team.
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Apr 8, 2014 05:02
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Flareon and Glaceon are easily the worst of the eeveelutions. You can like them all you want, competitively, they're not worth looking into considering that they're outclassed by mons of their respective type. (Refrigerate Glaceon would be bonkers as hell though, too bad Ice is still an awful defensive type)
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Apr 8, 2014 05:19
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LightningKimba posted:Flareon and Glaceon are easily the worst of the eeveelutions. You can like them all you want, competitively, they're not worth looking into considering that they're outclassed by mons of their respective type. Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favorites
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Apr 8, 2014 06:35
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Amperor posted:Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favorites Unless your favorite is Flareon.
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Apr 8, 2014 06:37
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Amperor posted:Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favorites So, real trainers have good opinions? I can believe this
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Apr 8, 2014 06:44
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Amperor posted:Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favorites Yeah that's nice Gamefreak but what if my favorite is Beedrill ?? Luckily my favorite is Breloom so I'm safe
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Apr 8, 2014 07:05
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Amperor posted:Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favorites If you don't abide by this, pick better favorites.
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Apr 8, 2014 07:08
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nippon nifties posted:Yeah that's nice Gamefreak but what if my favorite is Beedrill ?? Gamefreak says: Tough poo poo, sucka.
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Apr 8, 2014 07:10
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Anyone have any advice on movesets for a team of my favorite pokemon? Delibird, Carbink, Delcatty, Kricketune, Dunsparce, Flareon (Make teams of the worst (fully evolved) pokemon)
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Apr 8, 2014 07:11
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Can you use Trick or treat on Delcatty?
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Apr 8, 2014 07:43
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People who quote Karen are the worst, hth Like, if you want to use lovely Pokemon, good for you, but I'm not going to pretend my Plusle/Minun/Emolga/Pachirisu/Dedenne/Pikachu team is going to beat something which actually thinks its choices of Pokemon through.
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Apr 8, 2014 07:54
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Amperor posted:Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favorites
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Apr 8, 2014 08:01
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Crosscontaminant posted:...she said after losing with her team of three bad Pokémon, Gengar and Houndoom. So four bad pokemon and Gengar 
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Apr 8, 2014 08:11
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quote:There are no weak Pokemon in a Pokemon battle. There are only weak trainers. Yeah well I don't see you facing challengers with a team of 4 Magikarp, Siebold. Also, I just experienced a stupid thing. Say your Aegislash is paralysed before it gets to attack. It will change to Sword Forme, and then be paralysed and unable to move. Who thought that was a good idea?
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Apr 8, 2014 08:56
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Aegislash will change forme even if they're asleep. it's weird.
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Apr 8, 2014 09:06
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ungulateman posted:People who quote Karen are the worst, hth Don't be hating on Emolga. Inadequately posted:Aegislash will change forme even if they're asleep. it's weird. It dreams of attacking things.
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Apr 8, 2014 09:34
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The day when more (Casual? I wouldn't know the proper term) fans realize that there ARE bad Pokémon, whether it's due to them being outclassed or having bad stats/movepool, the day when fans stop needing to quote an NPC. You can like non-competitive Pokémon. It's really not a big deal and there's a lot of the dang monsters. It only becomes an issue when you think, say, Glalie is going to win you any battles. Sure you can hype up how you used it as a Baton Passer and it totally destroyed your friend's Garchomp, but you also cannot ignore its flaws as a Pokémon, such as its all 80 stats. Obviously, the inverse is true as well. 
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Apr 8, 2014 10:45
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Crosscontaminant posted:...she said after losing with her team of three bad Pokémon, Gengar and Houndoom. That was just something she made up on the spot to explain why she didn't have a Tyranitar on her supposed Dark type team, but kept that Vileplume. Did she even have a Sneasel?
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Apr 8, 2014 11:28
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Rudoku posted:That was just something she made up on the spot to explain why she didn't have a Tyranitar on her supposed Dark type team, but kept that Vileplume. Did she even have a Sneasel? Nope. Just Murkrow, Umbreon, and lastly Houndoom as her sig.
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LightningKimba posted:You can like non-competitive Pokémon. It's really not a big deal and there's a lot of the dang monsters. It only becomes an issue when you think, say, Glalie is going to win you any battles. Sure you can hype up how you used it as a Baton Passer and it totally destroyed your friend's Garchomp, but you also cannot ignore its flaws as a Pokémon, such as its all 80 stats. Obviously, the inverse is true as well. I still think it's a horrible shame that Glalie is poo poo. I mean look at it, it's a frozen demon mask, it looks awesome! It's really the biggest negative about the bad Ice types: They can have such great designs, and they go to waste because they're rubbish.
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Apr 8, 2014 11:44
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:So four bad pokemon and Gengar  Gengar is so good: Z2QG-WWW-WWW6-GUAN I lead with him more often than not on my doubles team.
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Apr 8, 2014 12:39
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So did I get it right you have to learn king's shield from the relearner? Cause that's bullshit if true.
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Icy Penguigo posted:Its hidden ability is Snow Warning, which is a great ability. Aurorus' real problem is that it might have the worst defensive typing in the entire game (not even an exaggeration) and an extraordinarily lame stat distribution. There's no "might" about it. Ice/Rock is the absolute worst defensive typing possible (for the record, Fairy/Steel is the best). Unfortunately, in-keeping with Gamefreak's usual "opposite" approach to mutually exclusive pokemon, Aurorus was forced into the role of a slow, pseudo special sponge to contrast Tyrantrum being a physical destroyer (not that he's all that great at that, but still). Which means that great potential for attacking and ability is almost completely wasted on the frozen sauropod. Gamefreak really needs somebody who thinks less about being cute or "thematic" and more about how things actually function in game.
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TheSpiritFox posted:So did I get it right you have to learn king's shield from the relearner? Cause that's bullshit if true. If I recall you get to learn it when you evolve Aegislash. Or maybe it's that you get to to learn it if you evolve Aegislash at exactly the first chance you can (so, the level Honedge evolves into Doublade). I definitely remember getting the chance to learn it.
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Amperor posted:Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favorites That line always struck to me as the kind of stuff an angry teen would say after losing in an online game. "Good pokemons are op, pls nerf" Geostomp posted:There's no "might" about it. Ice/Rock is the absolute worst defensive typing possible (for the record, Fairy/Steel is the best). Unfortunately, in-keeping with Gamefreak's usual "opposite" approach to mutually exclusive pokemon, Aurorus was forced into the role of a slow, pseudo special sponge to contrast Tyrantrum being a physical destroyer (not that he's all that great at that, but still). Which means that great potential for attacking and ability is almost completely wasted on the frozen sauropod. Gamefreak approach to competitive is making GBS threads out a bunch of pokemons and see which ones stick, then tell you to play doubles because totally everyone likes doubles and why would you play anything else but doubles. qnqnx fucked around with this message at 15:06 on Apr 8, 2014 |
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Given how terrible Game Freak is at balancing things I wouldn't be surprised if they believed that line wholeheartedly.
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qnqnx posted:That line always struck to me as the kind of stuff an angry teen would say after losing in an online game. To me it comes off more as  "heh, real Pokemon masters don't need to use good Pokemon, you scrub."
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Isn't Abomasnow worse off than Aurorus? It gets 7 weaknesses to Aurorus' 6 and the same number of resistances.
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Pureauthor posted:Isn't Abomasnow worse off than Aurorus? It gets 7 weaknesses to Aurorus' 6 and the same number of resistances. 4x to Mach Punch is a huge issue.
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Pureauthor posted:Isn't Abomasnow worse off than Aurorus? It gets 7 weaknesses to Aurorus' 6 and the same number of resistances. Aurorus has a second 4x weakness and Abomasnow's resistances and weaknesses are arguably better distributed.
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nippon nifties posted:Yeah that's nice Gamefreak but what if my favorite is Beedrill ?? Beedrill isn't completely useless, just mostly useless. On the other hand, if you like Unown you're poo poo out of luck. There's very few Pokemon that are straight-up unusable, but there's definitely a few, and they make pretty clear that Gamefreak isn't really aiming to make all seven hundred of the virtual pets in their monster training game equally competitively viable, especially since Pokemon Amie has finally managed to make the "playing with adorable pets" aspect actually good. Glaceon may have just enough speed to be impossible to use in singles, but it and Sylveon are the most adorable Eeveelutions, so you can pet those two and fight with the other six.
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Cleretic posted:If I recall you get to learn it when you evolve Aegislash. That can't be right because you don't learn sacred sword until 51 as honedge and you don't learn it at all if you stone up before that. I read that you learn it if you evolve after you learn sacred sword you will learn king's shield, but that didn't happen. Leveled him to 60 and still nothing. All the move charts show kings shield being a level 1 learned move. Anyone know? The Internet is full of contradictory info and this guy is so popular I have no idea how this seems to be a mystery.
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Main Paineframe posted:Beedrill isn't completely useless, just mostly useless. On the other hand, if you like Unown you're poo poo out of luck. There's very few Pokemon that are straight-up unusable, but there's definitely a few, and they make pretty clear that Gamefreak isn't really aiming to make all seven hundred of the virtual pets in their monster training game equally competitively viable, especially since Pokemon Amie has finally managed to make the "playing with adorable pets" aspect actually good. Glaceon may have just enough speed to be impossible to use in singles, but it and Sylveon are the most adorable Eeveelutions, so you can pet those two and fight with the other six. Except why the hell wouldn't you want to fight with Sylveon when it's got one of the best typings, awesome SpDef and great SpAtk.
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Serebii says Aegislash learns zero moves, but Sacred Sword and King's Shield are both relearnable. I'd go with that.
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Crap then, I'm in the process of getting lumiose turned back on, gotta wait.
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Lets talk about Venoshock/Hex type teams. I like the concept, and I'd like to play it in doubles, but I'm not sure if the strategy can make the transition from singles. Most of the advice I'm seeing online starts with Toxic Spikes and a spinblocker, but as I understand it, those don't work very well in doubles. Is there an alternative to using Toxic on things? Does there need to be? What are some other issues with this strategy that might come up in doubles that I should be aware of?
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My understanding of Doubles, particularly VGC Doubles, is that the game typically moves too fast to bother with setting up so entrance hazards like Spikes/Toxic Spikes/Stealth Rock really is just a non-damaging turn for your opponent to set up/attack you. I mean on a team of 4v4 Doubles, you set up Toxic Spikes, and typically you'll be lucky if you're able to poison 2 and that's assuming you either take down the first pair of Pokemon or force a switch. And they'd avoid it if it is Flying/Poison/Steel or Levitating. Or you could use Gravity to TS the Flyers but then that's ANOTHER set up turn. Poisoning people via Toxic/TS is great if you are stalling and the damage increases over time while you're able to take the hits and heal yourself and all that jazz but that is so much easier to do in Singles rather than Doubles. notthegoatseguy fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Apr 8, 2014 |
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