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Yesss...more weeks like this please. I love reading about weird obscure movies because half of the time they're the only ones I have access to. Also, uh, the reviews are totally funny and awesome. I wonder what took Cheap Thrills so long to become available. I saw it last summer and it wasn't even playing in competition.
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Apr 7, 2014 17:05
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I would totally see Under the Skin if it were showing in my tiny town. I don't like going to the movies very much, but that sounds fascinating. I love it when you guys review obscure stuff like this, even if it means I can't watch it.
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Apr 8, 2014 19:34
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So having just seen Captain America, the political message of the film, as basically spoken directly to the camera by ScarJo at the end, is "Wiretapping and drones are bad, but they do really important jobs, so instead of trying to have civilian oversight prosecute them, we should just let those organizations do their work and trust that they'll sort themselves out on their own." So between this, Avengers, and anything to do with Iron Man, is there any Marvel movie that's not just a right-wing wank fest?
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Apr 9, 2014 04:28
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That seems more like an American culture thing than something specific to the Marvel movies. I had pretty much the exact same reading from Zero Dark Thirty and I still have trouble seeing how that movie is supposed to be anti-torture in anything but the most superfluous way.
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Apr 9, 2014 05:04
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I haven't seen Zero Dark Thirty, but isn't the whole controversy that it's *not* even superficially supposed to be anti-torture, because they willingly and uncritically went along with the propaganda their CIA 'advisors' were telling them?
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Apr 9, 2014 05:08
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Zero Dark Thirty is about the moral compromises made to find Bin Laden. In the end, even if torture helped find him, even if the dozens of dead CIA agents and years of war, death, and pain functioned to get us to that point, did that really give us closure? And what does doing all these awful things in pursuit of one man on kidney dialysis and shooting him in the head demonstrate about ourselves? When you hurt America, America will hurt you back-- even if all the things we do in service of it are far more damaging and painful than the initial hurt. Whether the information gathered from the torture is effective or not is immaterial-- it's about how culpable we are in that process. The only way you can say that the film blindly endorses torture is if you also read the film as a victory lap about how awesome America is. But, hey, if you have blinders that big on, congrats on your rich fantasy life, have a good day in Narnia or whatever.
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Apr 9, 2014 05:31
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Chairman Capone posted:So having just seen Captain America, the political message of the film, as basically spoken directly to the camera by ScarJo at the end, is "Wiretapping and drones are bad, but they do really important jobs, so instead of trying to have civilian oversight prosecute them, we should just let those organizations do their work and trust that they'll sort themselves out on their own." That end monologue was so muddled I just ignored it, since the entire movie til then was anti-assassination and anti-drone. The Cap thinks we should blow up our whole spy/tech network and actually wait for people do commit a crime before we judge them.
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Apr 9, 2014 06:08
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Sheldrake posted:The only way you can say that the film blindly endorses torture is if you also read the film as a victory lap about how awesome America is. But, hey, if you have blinders that big on, congrats on your rich fantasy life, have a good day in Narnia or whatever. I take it you weren't in the United States when they announced bin Laden's death. That's really important context (as was the framing of 9/11 at the movie's start), and it's really not reasonable to interpret the movie like these are abstract events. This isn't Moby Dick. Zero Dark Thirty is about current events and rhetoric that shaped the entire political landscape of the previous ten years. Everybody who watched that movie brought a lot of a baggage into it, for better or worse. And given that we've since grown into a society that tolerates drone assassinations, I'm inclined to think it was for the worse. Some Guy TT fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Apr 9, 2014 |
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Apr 9, 2014 06:19
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Triple movie of the week winners! Oh man! They're all 20/50? Oh crap. Also I've heard a few people talk about the "unborn children go to heaven" part of Heaven is for Real being a major flaw in cosmology that book/movie puts forth. Basically in this world view heaven is full of unborn children with zero experience of the world, because of the number of fertilized eggs that are "miscarried" before women even know they're pregnant. In general I guess it's better than the Dante view, where unborn children occupy the outer ring of hell, but still it's weird.
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Apr 20, 2014 21:29
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So what you're saying is I'd better watch my step in Heaven or I'll wind up on the next bus to Hell? EDIT: Also, let me step forward and be the first to reduce my film's score to 19/50. It's probably marginally more enjoyable than Heaven Is for Real in some ways but infinitely uglier in others.
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Apr 21, 2014 03:18
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Keanu Grieves posted:So what you're saying is I'd better watch my step in Heaven or I'll wind up on the next bus to Hell? Nah, let's rock the 20/20/20 this week. It's fun.
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Apr 21, 2014 03:32
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Should have reviewed another movie and gave it 20 this week. Then we have 4 20s.
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Apr 21, 2014 03:38
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The MSJ posted:Should have reviewed another movie and gave it 20 this week. Then we have 4 20s. FUUUUUUCCCCCKKKK.
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Apr 21, 2014 03:43
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Truly, we are masterminds of internet comedy.
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Apr 21, 2014 04:50
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The MSJ posted:Should have reviewed another movie and gave it 20 this week. Then we have 4 20s.
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Apr 21, 2014 14:26
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The worst part is that we had a fourth review and I convinced Ian to wait on it for the American release date. And from the sounds of it, he may have made it a 20.
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Apr 21, 2014 14:42
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Draft Day is a solid 20/50, and no one reviewed that one last week.
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Apr 21, 2014 15:16
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Vargo posted:The worst part is that we had a fourth review and I convinced Ian to wait on it for the American release date. And from the sounds of it, he may have made it a 20. Nah, it's better than that.
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Apr 21, 2014 18:19
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Quick, Marty: Run out and review God's Not Dead.
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Apr 22, 2014 00:44
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Keanu Grieves posted:Quick, Marty: Run out and review God's Not Dead. People have been asking me to do exactly that. If it was on VOD, I would.
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Apr 22, 2014 00:47
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If you can't see it how are people watching it? Pat Robertson said it made over forty million dollars this morning. That's probably not the most reliable citation.
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Apr 22, 2014 04:30
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It's currently just over $48 million
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Apr 22, 2014 05:42
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Some Guy TT posted:If you can't see it how are people watching it? Pat Robertson said it made over forty million dollars this morning. That's probably not the most reliable citation. No, the reason I can't see it is because it came out about five weeks ago and is no longer in any theaters near me, it was in theaters and making money afew weeks ago. I don't think evangelical films will ever embrace the VOD model, because so much of their money comes from churches going in groups or renting out entire theaters.
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Apr 22, 2014 13:40
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They take it out of theaters just when nonbelievers start hearing about it, and aren't putting up any VOD options either? I don't think they're doing evangelism correctly.
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Apr 23, 2014 01:35
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Some Guy TT posted:They take it out of theaters just when nonbelievers start hearing about it, and aren't putting up any VOD options either? I don't think they're doing evangelism correctly. Because the films aren't meant to evangelize as much as criticize the secular world (and pretend they are persecuted for their faith)
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Apr 23, 2014 02:37
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God's Not Dead is still playing all over the place down here in the South, but we all saw what happened the last time I tried that.
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Apr 23, 2014 02:41
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Jay Dub posted:God's Not Dead is still playing all over the place down here in the South, but we all saw what happened the last time I tried that. When you put it like that, you NEED to go.
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Apr 23, 2014 07:23
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TheBigBudgetSequel posted:Because the films aren't meant to evangelize as much as criticize the secular world (and pretend they are persecuted for their faith) Exactly. I've been saying forever that the worst part about Christian cinema is that they clearly don't give a poo poo about appealing to anyone outside of their belief system, which to me defeats the whole purpose. All they're doing is making movies for their own community so they can pat themselves on the back for making the right choice of diety. It's so smug and self-assured that it makes all the films seem so insincere, and this is a genre which NEEDS sincerity. Tim Burton and Kevin Smith make lazy movies for specific groups too, but at least they don't claim to be doing the work of the Lord while doing it.
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Apr 23, 2014 16:54
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I suppose it just reinforces your point but I haven't seen any of these movies even try to get distributed in France. Is that the case in other countries, or is it really a wholly domestic market?
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Apr 23, 2014 18:30
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Vargo posted:Exactly. I've been saying forever that the worst part about Christian cinema is that they clearly don't give a poo poo about appealing to anyone outside of their belief system, which to me defeats the whole purpose. All they're doing is making movies for their own community so they can pat themselves on the back for making the right choice of diety. It's so smug and self-assured that it makes all the films seem so insincere, and this is a genre which NEEDS sincerity. Tim Burton and Kevin Smith make lazy movies for specific groups too, but at least they don't claim to be doing the work of the Lord while doing it. It's a microcosm of modern Christianity as a whole. Most Christians would rather stayed holed up in their churches, because the secular world is "scary". I grew up in a Christian household, went to church every sunday, and happily went to youth group, all that jazz. My church was, at the time (I can't speak for it now, having not been in almost 10 years), fairly laid back. Outreach was our whole goal. Do good deeds, reach out to the public to see what needed doing, be it food shelters, clothing drives, you name it, we did it. On the flipside, I was also attending a Christian school run by a much different kind of church. this is one of those chruches that now has an "auditorium" instead of a sanctuary. Hundreds and hundreds of people go to church there. Nothing is more sacred to them then worship music and prayer. Cut to a spring evening, my actual church is putting on a concert at the local high school to reach out to the community. The music was a national hip hop group that were Christians, but that only worked it's way into their lyrics in the form of them not swearing or talking about sex. They didn't rap about god loving you or anything. The church I went to school at brought their youth group, pretended as if they had been asked to be their to watch over my actual church, and tried to stop people who were dancing and having a good time. They left early. I found out they had gone back to the church, disgusted at the sinful nature of the world and how my actual church was doing nothing to stop it, and decided the best thing to do was not reach out and talk to these people, but to retreat to their sanctuary, and play lovely contemporary worship songs that made them feel pious. So that these films are made like this never ever surprises me. It's just a way of going "They never make movies for us, so we have to make them." but quality is never something that comes into the equation.
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100YrsofAttitude posted:I suppose it just reinforces your point but I haven't seen any of these movies even try to get distributed in France. Is that the case in other countries, or is it really a wholly domestic market? I think the type of Christianity present in these films is very linked to also being a right wing American, so I don't think they would play well over seas, nor would they even be remotely interested in that market.
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axleblaze posted:I think the type of Christianity present in these films is very linked to also being a right wing American, so I don't think they would play well over seas, nor would they even be remotely interested in that market. THEY'RE CALLED FREEDOM FRIES, DAG-NABBIT!
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Apr 24, 2014 07:36
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Is anybody going to review The Other Woman? I hear that movie is quite bad.
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Apr 29, 2014 05:23
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The trailers kind of review it for you. "Here's a movie supposedly about and for women that looks as if no one who worked on it has ever been or known a woman."
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Apr 29, 2014 13:55
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Every review I've read for it talks about a scene where a dog takes a CGI dump on someone's carpet.
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Apr 29, 2014 14:16
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Jay Dub posted:Every review I've read for it talks about a scene where a dog takes a CGI dump on someone's carpet.
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Apr 29, 2014 14:23
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I honestly have no idea when/if we'll get around to that one, we're a little backlogged right now. Last week's was pretty hastily tossed together and this week we're doing something special, so we might just say "screw it" to everything released pre-Spider-man.
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Apr 29, 2014 17:19
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Jay Dub posted:Every review I've read for it talks about a scene where a dog takes a CGI dump on someone's carpet. So literal dog poo poo is more expensive than CGI these days. Interesting.
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Some Guy TT posted:So literal dog poo poo is more expensive than CGI these days. Interesting. Cleaning or replacing the carpet is.
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