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Felix_Cat
Sep 15, 2008

Felix_Cat posted:

New game with Mantis B. First jump I get another mantis. Second jump an engi, and third jump a human. And then by the end of the first sector I get a rock. Yeah think I'm doing ok here.

Update: I died. I don't even know how, I somehow managed to run out of fuel despite buying it in bulk from a couple of stores, then went ages without any repair or refueling opportunities, slowly got whittled down, and got caught up by the rebels while waiting for fuel. Couldn't even jump away from the encounter because of no fuel.

gently caress you FTL.

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Cnidaria
Apr 10, 2009

It's all politics, Mike.

wow just found out mind control is pretty great for the first phase of the flagship since it allows you to see through stealth as long as an enemy on the ship is mind controlled.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
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Cnidaria posted:

wow just found out mind control is pretty great for the first phase of the flagship since it allows you to see through stealth as long as an enemy on the ship is mind controlled.

Wait, what? That's loving hilarious. I take it your weapons won't charge, but being able to see the ship is still great.

OAquinas
Jan 27, 2008

Biden has sat immobile on the Iron Throne of America. He is the Master of Malarkey by the will of the gods, and master of a million votes by the might of his inexhaustible calamari.

Alkydere posted:

Wait, what? That's loving hilarious. I take it your weapons won't charge, but being able to see the ship is still great.

Its the exact same behavior as if you have a boarder on a ship when it cloaks. You can't shoot or beam out, but you can queue up those commands that execute the moment it decloaks.

Cloaking when a boarder is about to die is the best way to ensure they bite it and not get whisked away by a teleporter...though that goes for your guys too.

Strumpie
Dec 9, 2012
I'm really liking the new hard mode and content.

I wiped my saves to unlock everything on hard, it's very slow but extremely satisfying. Even variant unlocks are a massive gain and the new unlock system means you can progress without the quests which is nice to go for if something isn't coming up.

Nighthand
Nov 4, 2009

what horror the gas

Every time I forget a weapon on autofire and destroy a ship with my boarders on it, I die a little inside.

I'm bad at this game.

Gloryhold It!
Sep 22, 2008

Fucking
Adorable
Get a clone bay and stop feeling bad.

Pyroi
Aug 17, 2013

gay elf noises

Nighthand posted:

Every time I forget a weapon on autofire and destroy a ship with my boarders on it, I die a little inside.

I'm bad at this game.

This is what the cloning bay is for.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
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I love this game. I cam across the best empty-sector text in the Abandoned Sector:

You come across a human civilian ship preparing to leave the sector. They message you, "We're getting out of here! There was some cult rambling about the spreading of the disease, Humanitis. They forcefully boarded our ship and tried to open all of our airlocks, shouting, 'Be purged!' Is nowhere safe anymore?"

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

I finally got to stage 3 of the boss, killed all their boarders with my seven surviving crew, and died because they have a crazy shield, the repair station was across the sector and my fire bomb ran out of bombs.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

LethalGeek posted:

It's obvious but in case you wanted to try and gamble with the new rebel fleet: loving don't.

I had a beautiful lantis A run where I was loaded with weapons, crew, and full hp go to complete poo poo cause I misread the map and had to go through them to reach the exit. 3rd jump finally finished me of :(

Sometimes I find ONE jump is doable, if, and only if, you get lucky and they don't have the ASB's running. Other than that, yeah, getting caught by the rebel fleet is a death sentence.

pogothemonkey0
Oct 13, 2005

:shepface:God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title:shepface:
Out of curiosity, what level engine do you guys typically have when you are getting destroyed by the rebel fleet? I mean, it's always pretty dangerous but with a level 4 engine or so they can only do so much damage before you can jump away.

Paracelsus
Apr 6, 2009

bless this post ~kya
How much are you guys who wiped your saves playing this game? I've put in almost 60 hours to the game and I've never seen the unlock events for the Rock or Slug ships, let alone the Crystal, and if I've ever even been to the Rock Homeworlds it has to have been at least 50 hours since the last time, despite trying to hit as many red sectors as I can.

Kilty Monroe
Dec 27, 2006

Upon the frozen fields of arctic Strana Mechty, the Ghost Dads lie in wait, preparing to ambush their prey with their zippin' and zoppin' and ziggy-zoop-boppin'.
I want to like the Mantis C, but it just seems too fragile in the early game, not at all like the B. Anyone having any luck with it?

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord

Felix_Cat posted:

New game with Mantis B. First jump I get another mantis. Second jump an engi, and third jump a human. And then by the end of the first sector I get a rock. Yeah think I'm doing ok here.

Mantis B is the best, give it a max cloning bay and never look back.

Vargs
Mar 27, 2010

Paracelsus posted:

How much are you guys who wiped your saves playing this game? I've put in almost 60 hours to the game and I've never seen the unlock events for the Rock or Slug ships, let alone the Crystal, and if I've ever even been to the Rock Homeworlds it has to have been at least 50 hours since the last time, despite trying to hit as many red sectors as I can.

On a related note, just wanna say thanks to the guy who posted that full unlock save file earlier. Was getting a little annoyed at the RNG screwing me out of opportunities for some of the unlocks and just downloaded that so I can play with the ships I actually want.

IAmTheRad
Dec 11, 2009

Goddammit this Cello is way out of tune!

Vargs posted:

On a related note, just wanna say thanks to the guy who posted that full unlock save file earlier. Was getting a little annoyed at the RNG screwing me out of opportunities for some of the unlocks and just downloaded that so I can play with the ships I actually want.

No problem.

Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.
:ohdear:
I feel like I must have lucked out big-time because I managed to unlock every ship except the Crystal Ship in about 40ish runs when the game came out. I did have to use someone's save to get the Crystal ship though because I could never get the sectors to line up right. :(

Vengarr
Jun 17, 2010

Smashed before noon
Whoever said to use the Rock C to unlock the Crystal Ship was right on the money. You don't get the Quest marker in the Rock Homeworld, but all you gotta do is jump around until you find it.

Bob A Feet
Aug 10, 2005
Dear diary, I got another erection today at work. SO embarrassing, but kinda hot. The CO asked me to fix up his dress uniform. I had stayed late at work to move his badges 1/8" to the left and pointed it out this morning. 1SG spanked me while the CO watched, once they caught it. Tomorrow I get to start all over again...
Just got to sector 7 in Zoltan A with two Flak I's and a Vulcan cannon. With two automated reloaders. nothing stood in my way.


"OH NO boarders got past your Zoltan shield. Oh looks like they went straight for your cloning bay too. Oh yeah there are SIX OF THEM."

That ended things real quick.

(bought a cloning bay earlier when I thought I was gonna go for a teleporter crew but fell into the great weapons....ahhh RNG)

Spiderfist Island
Feb 19, 2011
I bought this on Saturday and just finished my first successful base game run Monday (Kestrel, Easy). The Lanius and all the other new content fit in pretty seamlessly aside from Mind Control and Flak (oh god, that is overpowered). Did anyone else get the "Translator" event in Advanced Edition yet?

Inadequately
Oct 9, 2012

Spiderfist Island posted:

I bought this on Saturday and just finished my first successful base game run Monday (Kestrel, Easy). The Lanius and all the other new content fit in pretty seamlessly aside from Mind Control and Flak (oh god, that is overpowered). Did anyone else get the "Translator" event in Advanced Edition yet?

Yeah, got that event last run. Translator the Lanius was one of the best boarders I've ever had and carried me through that run easily.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

Insert name here posted:

I feel like I must have lucked out big-time because I managed to unlock every ship except the Crystal Ship in about 40ish runs when the game came out. I did have to use someone's save to get the Crystal ship though because I could never get the sectors to line up right. :(

I unlocked the Crystal Ship in my first run :smug:.


No, seriously. I started playing FTL again about a weak before the expansion came out on a new computer with new saves and I literally unlocked the crystal cruiser on my first run.

Big Sean
Jan 18, 2010

Bob A Feet posted:

Just got to sector 7 in Zoltan A with two Flak I's and a Vulcan cannon. With two automated reloaders. nothing stood in my way.


"OH NO boarders got past your Zoltan shield. Oh looks like they went straight for your cloning bay too. Oh yeah there are SIX OF THEM."

That ended things real quick.

(bought a cloning bay earlier when I thought I was gonna go for a teleporter crew but fell into the great weapons....ahhh RNG)

You can pretty easily defeat even complete nonsense boarding parties with careful use of airlocks. Normally having enemies in the room with your door subsystem will block the upgrade, but if you make it O2 deprived they will leave... you can then recharge oxygen and they can't easily get back in.

Cnidaria
Apr 10, 2009

It's all politics, Mike.

lol I just used mind control in an event to force an anti federation guy to side with me, giving me a shitload of scrap and other supplies and giving me access to a store with some really good items in the rebel stronghold sector.

OAquinas
Jan 27, 2008

Biden has sat immobile on the Iron Throne of America. He is the Master of Malarkey by the will of the gods, and master of a million votes by the might of his inexhaustible calamari.
Stealth B, pre-ignitor, glaive, flak II, small bomb.

:getin:

Matlock Birthmark
Sep 24, 2005

I wanted this to happen!!
Soiled Meat
Well, Lanius A and ended the game with no Lanius on my crew. Don't try to invade during ion storms I guess. But after that the game just threw weapons, good systems and scrap at me.

Burst laser mk2, Hull smasher mk3, and the chain laser with a weapon preigniter just melts things. Plus crazy defenses and most of the extra subsystems. Flagship was a bit tough, since for some reason between stages it thought the guy I left alive died. But with that firepower I punched through.

Vengarr
Jun 17, 2010

Smashed before noon
Beating the Flagship is piss-easy if you use the abduction trick to pick off its crew one at a time. And it doesn't require any crazy weapons or setups, just a teleporter and a mind control system. A Cloaking system absolutely seals the deal, but it isn't necessary, just useful.

Pretty sure they're going to patch that out.

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

Vengarr posted:

Beating the Flagship is piss-easy if you use the abduction trick to pick off its crew one at a time. And it doesn't require any crazy weapons or setups, just a teleporter and a mind control system. A Cloaking system absolutely seals the deal, but it isn't necessary, just useful.

Pretty sure they're going to patch that out.

I hope they don't it has its own disadvantage in that it ties up power and takes a long time to finish killing the crew. Flak on the other hand, I don't need to be seeing flak II on a zoltan ship in sector one :catstare:.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
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jm20 posted:

Mantis B is the best, give it a max cloning bay and never look back.

On my latest Mantis B run I had a level 2 cloning bay, regenerative teleporter, Zoltan Shield Bypass, and Emergency Respirators with a 4 mantis boarding party. Suffice to say the Flagship never really had a chance. I even fought most of the first stage with my shields down (because they hacked my shields and I was too dumb to notice I had to manually repower them again).

Vengarr posted:

Beating the Flagship is piss-easy if you use the abduction trick to pick off its crew one at a time. And it doesn't require any crazy weapons or setups, just a teleporter and a mind control system. A Cloaking system absolutely seals the deal, but it isn't necessary, just useful.

Pretty sure they're going to patch that out.

I was watching the pre-launch stream the night before that had the developers chatting with the guy streaming FTL: Advanced. They pretty much specifically said "There were parts where we would realize something is a bit overpowered, but then we'd leave it in anyways because it was fun, and fun was more important than fine-tuned balance."

So no, they're probably not going to patch it out, and it's doubtful they're going to nerf the flak guns everyone's going on about.

Motherfucker
Jul 16, 2011

I certainly dont have deep-seated issues involving birthdays.
gently caress FIRE DRONESSS

Dezinus
Jun 4, 2006

How unsightly.
I just tried out the hilarious Lanius boarding crew with maxed out Hacking Drones combo, and it's just the best thing in the game. Hack the medbay, send in the Lanius to punch some guys, suffocate them and then shoot up their O2 room. When the dudes scrable off to the medbay flick the hacking on and watch them melt. Had some problems with doors on the Flagship, but still worked out in the end. I think that was my first victory without Cloak. It ain't so bad.

Cnidaria
Apr 10, 2009

It's all politics, Mike.

Motherfucker posted:

gently caress FIRE DRONESSS

Shields, Motherfucker. Also vent your airlocks when there is a fire, upgraded doors prevent fires from spreading too (manning them has the same effect).

IAmTheRad
Dec 11, 2009

Goddammit this Cello is way out of tune!

Hilarious Lanius Boarding Crew. I also have Zoltan Shield Bypass for hilarity when I'll go against the Zoltan. Beam in a room, start smacking things. If AI has a medbay, it goes first. I will send flak on my own guys in order to take down the med bay. Of course Mind Control makes things easier, and the Health Bomb is good for an emergency if the cloning bay is down or hacked. Regenerative Teleporter would make that a non-issue.

I was once out of fuel. Hard to imagine it was 3 jumps ago. Rebel ship came, I took em over. They had no fuel. Had to wait, refugee showed up with fuel. Next jump, it was fuel depot or ammo storage. Jump after that, was a store.
Yeah. Now I need to get some real weapons so I can start to do some real damage.

IAmTheRad fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Apr 9, 2014

100YrsofAttitude
Apr 29, 2013




Slug B is such a piece of poo poo. I don't really get how it's a gimmick ship when slugs are by no means good at boarding. Ugh, I just want to unlock slug C. Any tips?

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
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100YrsofAttitude posted:

Slug B is such a piece of poo poo. I don't really get how it's a gimmick ship when slugs are by no means good at boarding. Ugh, I just want to unlock slug C. Any tips?

Play on Easy, try to keep $50 in your hold (or maybe a valuable item or two) for a medbay ASAP, or pray for actual offensive guns.

100YrsofAttitude
Apr 29, 2013




Alkydere posted:

Play on Easy, try to keep $50 in your hold (or maybe a valuable item or two) for a medbay ASAP, or pray for actual offensive guns.

Just luck then? I think I blew that all on my Stealth B run. Didn't win but at least I got to sector 8.

IAmTheRad
Dec 11, 2009

Goddammit this Cello is way out of tune!

100YrsofAttitude posted:

Slug B is such a piece of poo poo. I don't really get how it's a gimmick ship when slugs are by no means good at boarding. Ugh, I just want to unlock slug C. Any tips?
Well, don't board. Yes, the healing bomb is your only healing source. If you had a clone bay, then go nuts and board. Otherwise trying to time healing bombs to hit at the proper time in order to beat enemies is pretty bad.

Go as fast as you can to the last sector is the other tip I have for you. Run from battles, buy fuel, upgrade engines and basically get out of the sectors as fast as possible. You just need to reach the last sector. It's by no means impossible, but the ship is pretty high difficulty when compared to other B class ships.

Coucho Marx
Mar 2, 2009

kick back and relax

100YrsofAttitude posted:

Slug B is such a piece of poo poo. I don't really get how it's a gimmick ship when slugs are by no means good at boarding. Ugh, I just want to unlock slug C. Any tips?

It is a bit poo poo, I got sick of it and did it on Easy. If you're determined to do it on Normal, it really only pays to be lucky - hope for more crew! Upgrade your teleporter ASAP so you can board AI ships without losing crew, and remember that the Heal Bomb can miss, so don't fight in the piloting room to try and drag the pilot away, and if the bomb misses just immediately tele them back. Zoltan ships will suck until you have a fast weapon, so avoid their sectors and run away from them.

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100YrsofAttitude
Apr 29, 2013




Coucho Marx posted:

It is a bit poo poo, I got sick of it and did it on Easy. If you're determined to do it on Normal, it really only pays to be lucky - hope for more crew! Upgrade your teleporter ASAP so you can board AI ships without losing crew, and remember that the Heal Bomb can miss, so don't fight in the piloting room to try and drag the pilot away, and if the bomb misses just immediately tele them back. Zoltan ships will suck until you have a fast weapon, so avoid their sectors and run away from them.

I've managed to get a cloning bay in sector 1. So I solved that problem. If I can get upgraded I think I should be alright to make it to the end. Those first few fights for the necessary scrap though were harrowing.

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