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Other way around probably. There's already nation-restricted items (jade knife) so this probably just allows that property to be moddable.
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King of Bleh posted:Other way around probably. There's already nation-restricted items (jade knife) so this probably just allows that property to be moddable.
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Apr 8, 2014 02:28
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Two endgame questions for the more experienced players here: 1. For master enslave communions, I'm planning a communion master under the effect of power of the spheres + light of the north star with the following items: rune smasher, green eye, ring of sorcery (for +1 penetration and +1 astral) and starshine cap. I could throw in a robe of the magi for an additional +1 astral but he's currently sitting at even astral power after all the boosts, so if I understand correctly one more level won't improve his penetration. Is there anything I'm missing to buff this guy's chances? I assumed that rune smasher penetration doesn't stack if you dual wield them. Second question: is there a reliable off-script spell for dealing with SC's who you just can't get to before 5 turns? If I load up an E mage with E gems, does the AI like casting petrify or am I just gonna get 30 earth elementals? One thing I've noticed is that the AI seems to love spamming enslave mind, but that requires a lot of kitting up to be viable against high MR SC's. TheresNoThyme fucked around with this message at 06:28 on Apr 8, 2014 |
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King of Bleh posted:Other way around probably. There's already nation-restricted items (jade knife) so this probably just allows that property to be moddable. Are there any nation-restricted items other than the jade knife? Even the Jade Mask isn't tagged as nation-restricted, at least in the mod inspector.
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Eschatos posted:Are there any nation-restricted items other than the jade knife? Even the Jade Mask isn't tagged as nation-restricted, at least in the mod inspector. There's a hat that lets Ermor summon more lictors. I think that's about it. I'm not sure anyone actually forges it, a handful of sacred troops aren't too exciting when you have billions of longdead. dis astranagant fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Apr 8, 2014 |
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Apr 8, 2014 09:02
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TheresNoThyme posted:Two endgame questions for the more experienced players here: Don't forget the boosting power of communions. You get +1 level for every power of two iirc (maybe starts at 4 though?). Otherwise, I'd be leery of putting a RoS in battle. That's a lot of gems at risk. You could do the other eye that boosts penetration. Your dude will end up blind but who cares because he's casting master enslave. Skelespam.  Dealing with SCs, why not try a bunch of flying bane lords with dusk daggers and the chest wound axes? A squad of four or five should take down any SCs, I'd think. Could also try claws of cocytos or banish to inferno or just massed thunder strike or incineration.
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Apr 8, 2014 13:13
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Restricted for a type of troop that can have it? Sacred commander only items?
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Apr 8, 2014 14:39
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It might be an AI tag to prevent it from spamming things it doesn't know how to use.
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In terms of units, you already have #ainorec and #aireclimit for that. Since spells and items already have a #restricted tag, maybe it's a unit tag to prevent something being wished for?
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Apr 8, 2014 18:00
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Maybe its for certain independant units that can only be recruited from provinces by certain nations?
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Neruz posted:Maybe its for certain independant units that can only be recruited from provinces by certain nations? I'd assume they'd make some kind of #addrecmonpoptype [monster] [poptype] command for that, rather than a #restricted tag, because that would align much more closely with the other commands that do that kind of thing.
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Well, now that we are talking about the next updates, it seems the next path will be soon but it won't have the Caelum update as it will be moved to the next one (he may do it on Easter week). The good news is that he may do a "flier update", and together Caelum, laso add 1 or 2 new flying races, he has the research done. Source: Illwinter in desura forums.
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I've been saying for years that there ought to be a Southwestern Katchina/Anasazi/Chaco nation sequence. C'mon Illwinter. It's such a rich tradition just waiting to be mined.
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Patch is out on Desura, so go forth and crash those MP servers, guys! New pretenders: Maharishi, Dom 1, 0 points, S1, 10 points for each new path. Floats, is a cheeky monkey. Monkey guys get him. Raksharani, Dom 2, 25 points, N1D1B1, 40 points for new paths. Has glamour, can shapeshift into a seduction chick like their StR mages. Stealthy, very tough, has Chaos Power 1. For Lanka. Celestial Carp, Dom 3, 50 points, W2S1, GoWB 50, eats 10 guys, looks like this:  Now you might be thinking "for gently caress's hake, I've haddock with these fish jokes already", but TC and especially Jomon is going to be breaming with them for a while, I fear. jBrereton fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Apr 9, 2014 |
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I need to learn to play TC better. vvv Next patch is supposed to be in less than a month. So it's no big deal, though the line about eating people definitely needs a native speaker to correct the grammar somehow. vvv Speleothing fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Apr 9, 2014 |
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Apr 9, 2014 01:31
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I like how the Celestial Carp's description spells Pantokrator two different ways.
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Speleothing posted:the line about eating people definitely needs a native speaker to correct the grammar somehow. vvv
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"Used to feed on"?
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jBrereton posted:Reads fine to me. Maybe wants a comma extra, no bigs. The problem is with used, it's ambiguous as to whether it means he's an object that was used for that purpose or he's just gotten used to it. It's an odd way to start a sentence and just feels wrong, I'm not sure if it's grammatically incorrect but it's certainly off somehow.
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I like the idea that he tasted so bad, the Pantokrator forced his captives to eat bits of him. And now the fish is out for revenge. Seriously though, just give that fish a loving fedora already.
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Sokani posted:The problem is with used, it's ambiguous as to whether it means he's an object that was used for that purpose or he's just gotten used to it.
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Yeah, I agree it's pretty obvious the second time around what the meaning is, but there's got to be some kind of english language fuckery going on because it confused the poo poo out of me at first glance. I can't put my finger on it, but something is just off in respect to the phrasing or sentence structure. gently caress that poo poo though, I'm excited to slaughter my enemies with fishgod.
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It's because it really is super ambiguous and a little bit wrong. It definitely needs a comma to seperate its clauses either way. If they want us to understand that he was the pantokrator's tool for destroying opponents, then we would expect the word "devour" or "consume". Feed on implies a sort of habituality that doesn't fit with the image of a dude being tossed into the pond all at once. However, if the Codfather had become accustomed to eating people, then we need a -ing verb, and "feeding on" would actually be my first choice, for the implication of it being his habitual or primary food source.
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He has hands and legs? And pecs as well?
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jBrereton posted:Patch is out on Desura, so go forth and crash those MP servers, guys! So I can't get it just yet if I'm on Steam?
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Just add once to the start of that sentence, and maybe a comma. "Once used to feed on the flesh of those that displeased his master, he has developed [...]" e: personally I'd phrase the whole thing differently, but this is the minimum change needed
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When a multiplayer game ends can you still "play" the last turn and see the score graphs like you can in single player? edit: and is this just for the winner, or do all players get to see them?
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Yes, all the players get to see them. If you're able to snag it before the game gets taken down. ( and maybe only if you were still alive when the game ends ).
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That Carp is amazing---if the Illwinter devs haven't already been locked in a room for a bit with all the various Vanillaware games then they really need to get on that.
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What are these story events they mention? Just random events for nations with some more story to it, perhaps an effect or two?
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Mega Random Events, I think.
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Congratulation, Shiva asori, looks like you win the World of Water. Let's see how many tries the brave Oceanian troops need to take my last province, OK? 
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The Gentleman posted:What are these story events they mention? Just random events for nations with some more story to it, perhaps an effect or two? At present in the game there are a number of nation specific 'event chains' that can occur. Most of them don't work correctly or only work for the first step; if MA Ermor finds the Silver Sarcophagus they get an event to send a dude to the sarcophagus to open it and get a friendly mummy for example. There are a bunch of other events for other factions like one for EA Ermor which I think is supposed to end up with you getting a C'tissian Sauromancer but the chain breaks after the first event. Another is for LA Man and involves sending a dude to a specified province to find a Daughter of Avalon and again stops there but sounds like it was supposed to keep going as you learn about some underground cult. Hopefully those are the mentioned story events that now work, if so they'll probably skew the power balance a bit because some of the events result in fairly powerful rewards if done correctly. There are also presumably a bunch more both generic and specific to certain factions that are new and that I havn't run into.
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I haven't played this in a long while, and was maybe thinking of getting back in. I see it's on steam now and according to the OP your Desura key works there, do you get patches the same when you have the game on Steam? Also, how much has changed since launch for this, and are there a suite of mods that are considered common usage now (like CBM for Dom 3). I remember there was talk of a new CBM, but not sure if that ever went anywhere.
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alansmithee posted:I haven't played this in a long while, and was maybe thinking of getting back in. I see it's on steam now and according to the OP your Desura key works there, do you get patches the same when you have the game on Steam? quote:Also, how much has changed since launch for this quote:and are there a suite of mods that are considered common usage now (like CBM for Dom 3). I remember there was talk of a new CBM, but not sure if that ever went anywhere. CBM fetishism is still around, but the mod's creator is a bit eh about the whole thing, especially since nobody knows what to even change. Most nations have been considered good/bad at one point and then someone's played them and had a good/bad game and so they've been changed to Ultra Garbage Tier/Mega OP in people's minds. Plus I don't even know what CBM is going to do with movement speed and StR as mechanics, two things that were vaguely controversial some months ago but which are now kinda-settled upon as "alright and just a part of the game".
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Neruz posted:At present in the game there are a number of nation specific 'event chains' that can occur. Most of them don't work correctly or only work for the first step; if MA Ermor finds the Silver Sarcophagus they get an event to send a dude to the sarcophagus to open it and get a friendly mummy for example. There are a bunch of other events for other factions like one for EA Ermor which I think is supposed to end up with you getting a C'tissian Sauromancer but the chain breaks after the first event. Another is for LA Man and involves sending a dude to a specified province to find a Daughter of Avalon and again stops there but sounds like it was supposed to keep going as you learn about some underground cult. Most of those aren't part of the story events currently, they still want feedback on whether they should be. The story events are different event sequences and there seem to be quite a lot of global ones? Take a look on the Desura forums, there's a little bit of info in the event bug thread. e: From the Desura thread: Examples of new story events: War in hell (global) The three gates (global) Time of the Northmen (global) Gaia stirs (global) The Necromancer The King in the Mountain Mage Kings Citadel Tower of Thorns The lion of helms (short event chain for Man, chelms) Spreading plague + plague cult Unholy flux Fertility cult Horror cult
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TheresNoThyme posted:Two endgame questions for the more experienced players here: Bring a crystal shield so that he doesn't have to waste a combat turn casting power of the spheres, and replace the WoS with a crystal matrix so that he doesn't have to waste a combat turn casting communion master (assuming he has a high unit id). Unless he's already equipped with the Green Eye, I'd replace it with the Eye of the Void the boost to penetration and Astral you get from RoS is outweighed by the +4 to MR all your opponent's units will get when he casts Antimagic, so getting your master enslave off on turn 1 is important
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