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Affi posted:Morty is born, Rick greets his Morty but he can't stay because the intergalactic government is after all Ricks. And Morty We learn in this episode that "most timelines have a Rick and most Ricks have a Morty." However in the dimensional TV episode, timelines in which Jerry and Beth are together and have Summer seem to be fairly rare, which should make timelines with Mortys even more rare. I figure the Ricks answer that problem by cloning Mortys, which is why they treat them more like commodities than companions. Figure our Rick spent some time with a cloned/purchased Morty who might have gotten cocky and that he dropped back into Beth's life to acquire a newer, natural born Morty.
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Was the Citadel of Ricks meant to look like the Citadel in Mass Effect?
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Apr 9, 2014 15:40
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Typical posted:My girlfriend is going to be an additional voice in this episode. Is your girlfriend Ryan Riddley?
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Apr 9, 2014 15:41
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Pick posted:This was a superb episode. Gags were in high form, but the plot was truly excellent. I love how all the Ricks treasure Beth (I like Beth). Shame Summer didn't apparently have anything to do. I thought doofus Rick was rather touching and sweet, even if he eats poo poo Wait are you friends with that guy? You know he eats poo poo, right? Oh my god this is RICH. I got like...ten Picks to call right now.
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Affi posted:Morty is born, Rick greets his Morty but he can't stay because the intergalactic government is after all Ricks. And Morty Rick is a time traveler and can go visit his infant-Morty whenever he wants. 90s Shoes posted:smart I would like to think that our Rick is the most person-like non-dufus Rick. While he constantly acts like he has zero shits to give, we are continually given evidence that he does care about his family (albeit reluctantly). Rick's family views him as almost a deity: he wields essentially godlike powers with a certain amount of aloofness. And much like the deities of parables, when Rick answers your prayers, you get more than you bargain for (and maybe a lesson about life, though he would never admit it). He kills the Jellybean King, makes a love potion for Morty, gives Meeseeks and alternate reality goggles to the family, helps train the dog, rescues Summer from Gazorpazorp, and all of the other unlisted shenanigans. In a real sense, Rick has wildly improved his family's lives since returning. Morty and Summer are becoming more well-rounded and pragmatic individuals, Beth and Jerry's marriage seems to strengthen each episode, and even Jerry's neuroses seem to be getting under some kind of control, despite his role as comic relief. Fake Edit: after rewatching, boy did Beth get her wish when she said she wanted to see "more of [Rick]."
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Apr 9, 2014 16:35
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johntfs posted:We learn in this episode that "most timelines have a Rick and most Ricks have a Morty." However in the dimensional TV episode, timelines in which Jerry and Beth are together and have Summer seem to be fairly rare, which should make timelines with Mortys even more rare. I figure the Ricks answer that problem by cloning Mortys, which is why they treat them more like commodities than companions. Figure our Rick spent some time with a cloned/purchased Morty who might have gotten cocky and that he dropped back into Beth's life to acquire a newer, natural born Morty. I don't think there is much cloning involved. If 0.00000001% of all possible realities have Morty in it, that's still an infinite number of Mortys. That's how infinity works. Seeing a bunch of Mortys in one spot would only be unlikely to happen if by chance, which the citadel is not. Everyone deliberately gathered there.
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Occupation posted:I got like...ten Ricks to call right now. You really ought to know that name by now. VVV Thanks. I am really dense and sorry for that. cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Apr 9, 2014 |
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Apr 9, 2014 16:38
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Air is lava! posted:You really ought to know that name by now. It's the person he was quoting's username.
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Apr 9, 2014 16:40
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I have two thoughts: a) Was that an uncommonly large quantitiy of Morties? If "Most timelines have a Rick and most Ricks have a Morty" that would suggest there are less Morties than Ricks, but we have evidence that there are significantly more "loose" Morties than Ricks. Probably nothing. Maybe not though? b) I really want to see Furniture-Rick and Furniture-Morty.
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Apr 9, 2014 17:25
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Morty can't exist in realities Rick doesn't, Rick is his maternal grandfather. edit: excluding realities where people can be created without having a maternal grandfather, I guess. Like I don't picture the hammer people necessarily having that much physiologically related to us. CoolCab fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Apr 9, 2014 |
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Apr 9, 2014 17:27
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What about the reality where Hitler cured cancer? The answer is don't think about it.
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Apr 9, 2014 17:34
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flashy_mcflash posted:Was the Citadel of Ricks meant to look like the Citadel in Mass Effect? I thought that too, I hope that Typical weighs in on this.
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CoolCab posted:Morty can't exist in realities Rick doesn't, Rick is his maternal grandfather. There are presumably many realities where the Ricks did not, for one reason or another, re-enter their daughter's family's lives and pair up with "their" Morty. These Morty's would be horribly unprotected from Ricks from other dimensions that would take them.
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Apr 9, 2014 17:40
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It looked nothing like the Citadel in Mass Effect. Not even remotely.
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Apr 9, 2014 17:49
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ZorajitZorajit posted:I have two thoughts: There are infinite universes, so even though there are fewer Morties than Ricks, there are still an infinite number of Morties. Also my autocorrect corrects "Morties" to "Mortise."
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Apr 9, 2014 18:06
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Irish Joe posted:Its something all right. Better than the cold war between book readers and show only watchers in the Game of Throne threads.
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Apr 9, 2014 18:10
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Waltzing Along posted:It looked nothing like the Citadel in Mass Effect. Not even remotely. did too
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Apr 9, 2014 18:14
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Pakled posted:There are infinite universes, so even though there are fewer Morties than Ricks, there are still an infinite number of Morties. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't there different levels of infinities? There could be uncountably infinite Ricks but only countably infinite Morties, such that there aren't enough Morties to pair them up 1:1.
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Apr 9, 2014 18:21
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EvilTobaccoExec posted:did too http://video.adultswim.com/rick-and-morty/close-rick-counters-of-the-rick-kind.html Go to the 2:08 mark. Doesn't look anything like this: 
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Apr 9, 2014 18:24
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haha, you thought they meant the outside? no one cares about the outside of things
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Apr 9, 2014 18:27
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EvilTobaccoExec posted:haha, you thought they meant the outside? That's the Citadel.
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Apr 9, 2014 18:30
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XboxPants posted:Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't there different levels of infinities? There could be uncountably infinite Ricks but only countably infinite Morties, such that there aren't enough Morties to pair them up 1:1. In my experience, math treats infinity like it is mere endlessness, I assuming because endlessness is technically finite and therefore quantifiable one way or another, while philosophy treats infinity like it is infinite. So with that distinction in mind, philosophical infinity comes in only one form, literal infinity. In which its all uncountable and quite frankly nonsensical. If were going to start discussing this seriously, we have to suspend disbelief because an actual infinity of universes is logically impossible, as is an infinity of anything. Infinity is pure fiction. So if we want to be able to rationalize this stuff, we have to use the mathematical model of infinity which appears to just be endlessness, which is finite. Variation within endlessness is whatever the author decides it is. If he wants only 50 of all endless possibilities to include mortys, thats fine. So yeah you could in theory have uncountably many Ricks but countably many Mortys.
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Waltzing Along posted:That's the Citadel. when I thought of the citadel I thought of  with the same fountains and shops and stuff thats in the episode from about 2:09 onward
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Apr 9, 2014 18:35
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"of all the Ricks in the Central Finite Curve"
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Could it be that the reason there aren't many Ricks without Morties is because without a Morty, a Rick doesn't really develop much "Rick"-ness? It's possible that to eventually develop into a crazy super-scientist, Rick needs to have a daughter to motivate that inner drive. Additionally, it could be that to fully develop into what we know of as RICK, he needs a grandson to care for, and coincidentally, to mask his increasingly "weapon of mass destruction" level brainwaves from non-Rick entities who don't like competition. Without a Morty, Ricks either coast along at "genius scientist" level, or become incredibly smart and easy to detect, and get killed by non-Rick entities. Look at the one Rick we know who doesn't have a Morty: he's an unmotivated idiot. But within a few hours of being exposed to someone who treats him like a parent (Jerry), he's already invented ovenless brownies. Maybe doofus Rick is a doofus because he never had kids that made him strive to not be a doofus?
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johntfs posted:We learn in this episode that "most timelines have a Rick and most Ricks have a Morty." However in the dimensional TV episode, timelines in which Jerry and Beth are together and have Summer seem to be fairly rare, which should make timelines with Mortys even more rare. I figure the Ricks answer that problem by cloning Mortys, which is why they treat them more like commodities than companions. Figure our Rick spent some time with a cloned/purchased Morty who might have gotten cocky and that he dropped back into Beth's life to acquire a newer, natural born Morty. There are so few Summer because they were going to abort her, maybe if they do there are timelines where they still stay together and have Morties.
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EvilTobaccoExec posted:when I thought of the citadel I thought of Yeah that's what I meant. Maybe it's just that I'm playing ME3 at the moment but I thought they looked kind of similar.
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flashy_mcflash posted:Yeah that's what I meant. Maybe it's just that I'm playing ME3 at the moment but I thought they looked kind of similar. I think they just look similar in that both have a lot of white space. I did not get a presidium vibe at all from the Citadel 'a Ricks.
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socialsecurity posted:There are so few Summer because they were going to abort her, maybe if they do there are timelines where they still stay together and have Morties. I'd say it's more that there are relatively few Summers and Mortys in existence, but in a seemingly infinite multiverse, that's still a lot of Summers and Mortys. And in most of those realities the Smiths have a lot of Family Game Nights apparently. The council probably doesn't count Ricks without Mortys as real Ricks. Why? Because Doofus Rick, that's why. hcreight fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Apr 9, 2014 |
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hcreight posted:The council probably doesn't count Ricks without Mortys as real Ricks. Why? Because Doofus Rick, that's why. This is why the show owns, when they can, they make the answer something that's funny. But it does have a great deal of logic and thought, just maybe not too much care between episodes, other than comedy call backs. It keeps straight what it has to and literally hand waves away anything it doesn't want to explain. They go out of their way to make jokes about that stuff, like Rick saying "Wow, sure was lucky we found that store that had lab coats and children's shirts in our exact styles" and even Morty, the supreme idiot of all universes is like "Yeah, yeah, whatever, who cares".
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XboxPants posted:Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't there different levels of infinities? There could be uncountably infinite Ricks but only countably infinite Morties, such that there aren't enough Morties to pair them up 1:1. Are you thinking of countable vs. Uncountable infinity? http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/74268.html
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:I think they just look similar in that both have a lot of white space. I did not get a presidium vibe at all from the Citadel 'a Ricks. It's a clean white space mall called The Citadel with shops and trees and bureaucrats. I don't think it's necessarily an homage or anything but it's not a stretch to say they're similar. 
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I wonder if having Rick around is beneficial to Jerry simply because Rick's level of intellect puts Jerry so much closer to everyone else on the bell curve than he would be otherwise.
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I don't know about that, but surely Ricks who are in houses with both a Morty and a Jerry are better hidden than just being near a Morty...
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EvilTobaccoExec posted:when I thought of the citadel I thought of This is the Presidium. A district on the Citadel.
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Waltzing Along posted:This is the Presidium. A district on the Citadel. You're the guy who asks "which part of Venice is it like" when I'm stood on a loving gondola.
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Apr 9, 2014 23:08
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Holy poo poo this episode spawned a lot of talk. Cool thing about this show is that Rick's all-powerful science abilities basically gives the creators unlimited potential to do anything they want. I'm not gonna think too much about this last episode but it was really good, and I'm gonna guess the evil Morty will probably make another appearance someday and answer some of y'alls questions.
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Waltzing Along posted:This is the Presidium. A district on the Citadel. You're the guy who responds to "what's up" with "the sky" with a poo poo-eating smirk on your face
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Waltzing Along posted:This is the Presidium. A district on the Citadel. You're the guy who s-- who says, like. Like when someone asks you if... Look, gently caress you.
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I'm a fan of Rick making a Robot 14 year old Morty while he waits for real Morty to grow up theory. That's kinda interesting. At least right now where all we can do is blindly speculate. Haha.
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