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fatherdog posted:"I don't love to fight, I don't want to fight" is indeed something coming from a guy who jumped his opponent in a hospital because he was pissed about the decision.
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That's the most rational I've ever heard Nick tbh, and I can understand his reasoning. He's an entertaining fighter and I'd love him back at the UFC, but not fighting for the belt unless he's earned it. Fighting Lombard seems an easy way to get a title shot, especially if it's 5 rounds, but apparently he doesn't think it's worth it. Of all the guys near a title shot right now (Woodley, Rory and Lombard) Hector is definitely the only one I can see Nick beating.
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Apr 10, 2014 05:31
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The just don't respond tactic of salary negotiation doesn't seem like the best plan
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I got to talk to Nate at length and he seriously hates hating people, and he has to hate them to fight them, because, Diaz. I can see how it sounds paradoxical, but I believe what nick says in that regard.
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Apr 10, 2014 05:34
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I like Diaz a lot more after he taunted Hendricks as he shivered on the scale.
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Apr 10, 2014 05:47
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I'm one of the few Diaz fans here but what is this "He sounds rational for once" and "he's right" poo poo? He's saying he won't fight Hector Lombard for anything less than half a million dollars...is it really rational to think Nick Diaz should get that type of money? I realize he's a draw but he also hasn't won a fight since he beat up BJ Penn's corpse and how many guys really make that sort of money in the UFC right now?
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Ty1990 posted:I'm one of the few Diaz fans here Not remotely Ty1990 posted:but what is this "He sounds rational for once" and "he's right" poo poo? He's saying he won't fight Hector Lombard for anything less than half a million dollars...is it really rational to think Nick Diaz should get that type of money? He's saying he doesn't need to fight, doesn't enjoy fighting and doesn't want to do it unless the money is good enough to warrant being punched in the face, this is a reasonable thought process for a human being to have Ty1990 posted:I realize he's a draw but he also hasn't won a fight since he beat up BJ Penn's corpse and how many guys really make that sort of money in the UFC right now? Who cares
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Yuriy posted:
I thought when people said it sounded reasonable they were saying "Half a mil to fight Lombard...yea he deserves it". Putting it the way you just did makes way more sense.
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Mean Bean Machine posted:I'd love him back at the UFC, but not fighting for the belt unless he's earned it. why
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Ty1990 posted:I'm one of the few Diaz fans here but what is this "He sounds rational for once" and "he's right" poo poo? He's saying he won't fight Hector Lombard for anything less than half a million dollars...is it really rational to think Nick Diaz should get that type of money? I realize he's a draw but he also hasn't won a fight since he beat up BJ Penn's corpse and how many guys really make that sort of money in the UFC right now? Wasn't there some UFC poll on Hendrick's next opponent and the far away majority was Diaz?
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Yep. Though I hope that no one is shocked that people who choose to watch MMA may make questionable decisions.
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Aurain posted:Yep. Though I hope that no one is shocked that people who choose to watch MMA may make questionable decisions. People were complaining when Chris Weidman was going to fight Anderson Silva due to being an unknown and not deserving the mighty Anderson. Popularity power is a dumb thing.
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Apr 10, 2014 11:32
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Yuriy posted:Who cares People care because it's an unreasonable expectation that we're responding to, regardless of his other good points
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Tweets from Abu Schaubi and Hunto seem to suggest that they're going to be fighting next, after the speculation about it.
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the least weasel posted:People care because it's an unreasonable expectation that we're responding to, regardless of his other good points He said he'd fight anyone if the money was right, just that Hendricks guarantees that the money is right since he's the champ... How is this confusing or unreasonable? He wants to get paid
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Detroit_Dogg posted:I like Diaz a lot more after he taunted Hendricks as he shivered on the scale. That's what he'll do. The Lombard fight would be ok. Lombard would probably dominate the first round, then gas and start to eat a gazillion punches to the face and body. Diaz by decision or late submission.
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fatherdog posted:"I don't love to fight, I don't want to fight" is indeed something coming from a guy who jumped his opponent in a hospital because he was pissed about the decision. This is a good point, but he's said several times that if he could make the money he does in MMA by doing triathlons instead he'd never fight again. He probably meant fight professionally.
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Apr 10, 2014 15:55
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Ty1990 posted:I'm one of the few Diaz fans here Interesting theory
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origami posted:Interesting theory Most of the regulars here don't really like Nick Diaz and, if I recall correctly, were pretty happy with GSP dominating him a year ago. 99% of people here were thrilled that Condit beat him but I'll chalk that up to Condit being cool moreso than people not liking Nick.
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I have no idea what threads you've been reading, man. Err'yone loves a Diaz. People make fun of people who think that he won the Condit fight, but the man himself is one of the great sources of comedy in MMA. And he puts on super fun fights to boot.Nibbles141 posted:Wasn't there some UFC poll on Hendrick's next opponent and the far away majority was Diaz? And Kobe Bryant was voted into this years NBA all star game after playing like 5 games this year. Fans are stupid, and popularity is a pretty lovely metric for deciding who's gonna fight the next title shot. I know we're living in a post GSP/Diaz and Jones/Sonnen era so they throw in fun fights sometime, but the UFC still vaguely operates under the pretence that the best fighters get the shot. It would piss the gently caress out of all the other contenders at welterweight, too. No one really gets mainstream popularity until they actually have the belt. He's gonna draw more than Woodley/Rory/Lawler/etc. and will continue to do so until one of them becomes champ. Being the champ doesn't guarantee popularity either, but it's practically a pre-requisite. Like we could just circlejerk popularity and have champs fight ex champs to max buy rates, but at a certain point you have to introduce new talent to the pool, especially when the new guys are clearly better fighters. CRISPYBABY fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Apr 10, 2014 |
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attackmole posted:I have no idea what threads you've been reading, man. Err'yone loves a Diaz. People make fun of people who think that he won the Condit fight, but the man himself is one of the great sources of comedy in MMA. And he puts on super fun fights to boot. I could be very wrong about the GSP thing as I was too lazy to go back and read the thread.
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Enjoying watching someone lose is not mutually exclusive with liking them (see: Stefan Struve).
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Ty1990 posted:I could be very wrong about the GSP thing as I was too lazy to go back and read the thread. He was well regarded when I started reading this forum, but by that time, it was the second straight time he had retired because he was beat up.
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Just because I enjoy watching Georges school you hilariously for 5 rounds doesn't mean I don't like you.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Enjoying watching someone lose is not mutually exclusive with liking them (see: Stefan Struve). This is a really good point.
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Nick Diaz is like Goku. Several months of grunting and yelling followed by an all too brief fight.
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I wouldn't say I had that great of an opinion of Nick in the Condit fight, but god bless him for giving his full backing to his fans' denial of the obvious loss. And for this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14TuicHBzkI
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Here's Hendo teaching all of us how to properly drop the H-bomb. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo7q001ZbIU
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Nick Diaz is entertaining in all aspects of his mma career and for that I am a grateful fan.
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Coincidently I was clearing out old notes on my iPhone yesterday and found a comment I typed after Condit v Diaz. At the time the Forums were crashing often on my phone so I typed it in notes and meant to paste it in the UFC thread, but forgot. I'll just leave it right here: On 7am Feb 12, 2012, I posted: "I watched the fight at home with a couple MMA friends. We all thought Diaz won round 1 and 2, although they were pretty close. Condit was moving straight back and fell into Nick's game several times. Then rounds 3 and 4 were clearly Condit's, with Diaz looking silly and confused. I don't even remember him connecting at all in one of the rounds. When five began, it was conceivably even on the scorecards although Carlos most certainly had huge momentum going in his favor. He seemed to continue to win the striking, despite Diaz picking up the pace. The round was closer than 3 and 4 but still leaning towards Carlos when Diaz took his back and got him down. At that point it looked like Diaz might be able to steal the round, if not submit Condit. He stayed active and looked good on the ground until he went for the armbar and finished the fight getting elbowed by Los. The judging criteria says the fifth should be awarded to the more successful striker since the round was primarily fought standing, but since the standup was sort of close and Diaz had the single most dominant minute(s) of the fight, I'd like to give him the 5th round. We are all fans of both guys but were cheering for Diaz for the comedy factor. the overall vibe we had before the decision was sadness because Condit would get the decision. That said it should have been 3-2 condit or 3-2 Diaz. 4-1 Condit doesn't make sense to me."
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Mean Bean Machine posted:He's an entertaining fighter and I'd love him back at the UFC, but not fighting for the belt unless he's earned it. Well then they should just change the rules so that any welterweight champion has to fight Diaz as every second fight. Problem solved and everybody wins.
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quote:Have you ever seen me knock somebody out and make a big scene? Hell no. I threw my hands up and walk around pissed off because, f*ck, that could have been me. That wasn't fun." Much like his striking: Every so often Diaz goes hard to the gut after some nonsense pitter-patter.
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Apr 10, 2014 19:12
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Nick Diaz is one of the smartest retarded people I know about.
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It'd be sweet if after welterweight defenses there's be like a sick lightning strike graphic on the zuffatron and Nick Diaz comes out for a lightning round title defense and if he wins he immediately vacates the belt.
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I've been a fan of Nick for years, since his fight with Gomi. I didn't follow him outside the UFC, but I enjoyed Nate as he entered the UFC with the identical style and attitude. Both of them have been spewing even more bullshit than normal lately; I suspect they realize that poo poo-talking earns them money, which makes it feel less authentic than before. But I'd love to see Nick come back, even for the title, despite not deserving it.
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That last gif is such a great sequence, he starts going to the body and right when the elbows drop low enough he switches back to the head, then immediately dodges the counter like he had an egg timer on it. Goddamn.
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Keven. Just. Keven posted:Nick Diaz is one of the smartest retarded people I know about.
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